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Kunzite · 02-11-2015, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

IOW - will the new FF body support screwdrive lenses?

"Should we save some $1 by launching a camera with at most 5 officially "full frame" lenses and another 4 compatible ones, or should we have 8-10 more, plus a second hand market?"
It's a very difficult decision. NOT!

**monochrome** · 02-11-2015, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

"Should we save some $1 by launching a camera with at most 5 officially "full frame" lenses and another 4 compatible ones, or should we have 8-10 more, plus a second hand market?"
It's a very difficult decision. NOT!

Geez - I'm one of the good guys. I expect it will have a motor.

Privately I can explain how it might make sense NOT to have a motor (but it will have a motor - [EDIT] it has a FA31 mounted on the reference demo).

kadajawi · 02-11-2015, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by K David

If no one has thought of this, we should point-blank ask "Is Pentax doomed?"

Hahaha. That's genius. The correct answer would be a big laugh and "0no, we have big plans and many exciting upcoming products we can't wait to share with you". Not sure how the Japanese would see such a question though

Kunzite · 02-11-2015, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Geez - I'm one of the good guys. I expect it will have a motor.

Privately I can explain how it might make sense NOT to have a motor (but it will have a motor).

I know you're one of the good guys

My response is more for people who would read that and take it the wrong way - as an actual possibility.

Class A · 02-11-2015, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Privately I can explain how it might make sense NOT to have a motor (but it will have a motor).

You may be able to provide one or two reasons in favour of excluding a built-in screw-drive motor, but it will never make sense to actually omit it.

I predict that if Ricoh were actually releasing the FF model without a built-in screw drive motor, more than one additional NoodleLow blog would be born. With the wrath of loyal Pentaxians ensuing, Ricoh could might as well declare the brand "Pentax" history straight away.

aoeu · 02-11-2015, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

Is Ricoh commited to continued support screw drive lenses?

This.

GordonZA · 02-11-2015, 07:07 PM

Not sure if it's been included but can you ask if there will be future support for SDXC UHS-II class 3 cards... I.e 250MB/s write speeds....

thibs · 02-12-2015, 12:44 AM - **1 Like**

Will they include aperture simulator in the upcoming FF ?

**monochrome** · 02-12-2015, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I know you're one of the good guys

My response is more for people who would read that and take it the wrong way - as an actual possibility.

Originally posted by Class A

You may be able to provide one or two reasons in favour of excluding a built-in screw-drive motor, but it will never make sense to actually omit it.

I predict that if Ricoh were actually releasing the FF model without a built-in screw drive motor, more than one additional NoodleLow blog would be born. With the wrath of loyal Pentaxians ensuing, Ricoh could might as well declare the brand "Pentax" history straight away.

There's an FA31 mounted on the reference demo. That ought to say something.

Kunzite · 02-12-2015, 03:50 AM

Do you think that (and the reintroduction of the two old FA lenses on the roadmap, and the screw drive switch on the mock-up, and the inclusion of screw drive AF support on all their camera etc.) can stop the speculations?

falconeye · 02-12-2015, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

... a physical AF-switch ... is only needed with an in body AF drive.

Not true.

Originally posted by Kunzite

Do you think that (and the reintroduction of the two old FA lenses on the roadmap, and the screw drive switch on the mock-up, and the inclusion of screw drive AF support on all their camera etc.) can stop the speculations?

+1

Of course, a future FF body will support screw drive, for multiple reasons. Because it is the flagship model, must support FA lenses, and has enough space due to the bulkier AF module (body must protrude more below the lens mount).

I don't think this even deserves being asked as a question.

D1N0 · 02-12-2015, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

Not true.

explain? And it better not be a nit picker answer because you feel a need to be überright.

gazonk · 02-12-2015, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

explain? And it better not be a nit picker answer because you feel a need to be überright.

Maybe you should explain? I don't understand the reasoning behind your claim. You might have had a point if all lenses with in-lens AF had an AF switch. But they don't.

D1N0 · 02-12-2015, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Maybe you should explain? I don't understand the reasoning behind your claim. You might have had a point if all lenses with in-lens AF had an AF switch. But they don't.

How bloody hard can it be. a physical AF switch.

wed7 · 02-12-2015, 04:42 AM

With the announcement of FF for Pentax, will RICOH still produce high end apsc like K-3? Or will it be only Pentax FF with crop mode?

02-11-2015, 02:30 PM	#152
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Kunzite "Should we save some $1 by launching a camera with at most 5 officially "full frame" lenses and another 4 compatible ones, or should we have 8-10 more, plus a second hand market?" It's a very difficult decision. NOT! Geez - I'm one of the good guys. I expect it will have a motor. Privately I can explain how it might make sense NOT to have a motor (but it will have a motor - [EDIT] it has a FA31 mounted on the reference demo). Last edited by monochrome; 02-12-2015 at 03:38 AM.

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02-11-2015, 02:24 PM	#151
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,131	Originally posted by monochrome IOW - will the new FF body support screwdrive lenses? "Should we save some $1 by launching a camera with at most 5 officially "full frame" lenses and another 4 compatible ones, or should we have 8-10 more, plus a second hand market?" It's a very difficult decision. NOT!

02-11-2015, 02:47 PM	#153
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by K David If no one has thought of this, we should point-blank ask "Is Pentax doomed?" Hahaha. That's genius. The correct answer would be a big laugh and "0no, we have big plans and many exciting upcoming products we can't wait to share with you". Not sure how the Japanese would see such a question though

02-11-2015, 04:59 PM	#154
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,131	Originally posted by monochrome Geez - I'm one of the good guys. I expect it will have a motor. Privately I can explain how it might make sense NOT to have a motor (but it will have a motor). I know you're one of the good guys My response is more for people who would read that and take it the wrong way - as an actual possibility.

02-11-2015, 06:51 PM	#155
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,241	Originally posted by monochrome Privately I can explain how it might make sense NOT to have a motor (but it will have a motor). You may be able to provide one or two reasons in favour of excluding a built-in screw-drive motor, but it will never make sense to actually omit it. I predict that if Ricoh were actually releasing the FF model without a built-in screw drive motor, more than one additional NoodleLow blog would be born. With the wrath of loyal Pentaxians ensuing, Ricoh could might as well declare the brand "Pentax" history straight away.

02-11-2015, 07:03 PM	#156
aoeu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 496	Originally posted by Docrwm Is Ricoh commited to continued support screw drive lenses? This.

02-11-2015, 07:07 PM	#157
GordonZA Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Planet Earth Photos: Albums Posts: 351	Not sure if it's been included but can you ask if there will be future support for SDXC UHS-II class 3 cards... I.e 250MB/s write speeds....

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thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,000	Will they include aperture simulator in the upcoming FF ?

02-12-2015, 03:39 AM	#159
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Kunzite I know you're one of the good guys My response is more for people who would read that and take it the wrong way - as an actual possibility. Originally posted by Class A You may be able to provide one or two reasons in favour of excluding a built-in screw-drive motor, but it will never make sense to actually omit it. I predict that if Ricoh were actually releasing the FF model without a built-in screw drive motor, more than one additional NoodleLow blog would be born. With the wrath of loyal Pentaxians ensuing, Ricoh could might as well declare the brand "Pentax" history straight away. There's an FA31 mounted on the reference demo. That ought to say something.

02-12-2015, 03:50 AM	#160
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,131	Do you think that (and the reintroduction of the two old FA lenses on the roadmap, and the screw drive switch on the mock-up, and the inclusion of screw drive AF support on all their camera etc.) can stop the speculations?

02-12-2015, 04:04 AM	#161
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by D1N0 ... a physical AF-switch ... is only needed with an in body AF drive. Not true. Originally posted by Kunzite Do you think that (and the reintroduction of the two old FA lenses on the roadmap, and the screw drive switch on the mock-up, and the inclusion of screw drive AF support on all their camera etc.) can stop the speculations? +1 Of course, a future FF body will support screw drive, for multiple reasons. Because it is the flagship model, must support FA lenses, and has enough space due to the bulkier AF module (body must protrude more below the lens mount). I don't think this even deserves being asked as a question.

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02-12-2015, 04:07 AM	#162
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,801	Originally posted by falconeye Not true. explain? And it better not be a nit picker answer because you feel a need to be überright.

02-12-2015, 04:35 AM	#163
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by D1N0 explain? And it better not be a nit picker answer because you feel a need to be überright. Maybe you should explain? I don't understand the reasoning behind your claim. You might have had a point if all lenses with in-lens AF had an AF switch. But they don't.

02-12-2015, 04:41 AM	#164
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,801	Originally posted by gazonk Maybe you should explain? I don't understand the reasoning behind your claim. You might have had a point if all lenses with in-lens AF had an AF switch. But they don't. How bloody hard can it be. a physical AF switch.

02-12-2015, 04:42 AM	#165
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,420	With the announcement of FF for Pentax, will RICOH still produce high end apsc like K-3? Or will it be only Pentax FF with crop mode?

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