HD PENTAX-DA 18-50mm F4-5.6 DC WR RE

D1N0 · 02-10-2015, 08:19 AM

The new hood won't be of much use on most other lenses since it is 58mm

Docrwm · 02-10-2015, 08:25 AM

B&H sent out their newsletter with Pentax featured (after Nikon) and the 18-50 was listed with its MSRP:
18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens: $299.95

**woodywesty** · 02-10-2015, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by goodnight

They should make lenses with interchangeable rings and sell rings of every color and stripe. They'd make money from people like me, who want rings of marvelously sparkly pink.

I agree! While I'd stick with tradition I think when its reasonable they should give the customer what they want. Just look at what people do to their cars...

**Rondec** · 02-10-2015, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

Official price is reported to be £229 for this in the UK. Even if it's extra small, it's still a slow kit lens and the price doesn't look like it'll reflect that.

I guess. This is the sort of lens that will be discounted considerably in kits and the price will drop pretty quickly. I expect street price will end up being about 150, which probably isn't too bad considering. If I get a copy (I would enjoy using one on my K-01), I would get it used.

JinDesu · 02-10-2015, 09:24 AM

I'll wait for the discount or for someone to sell their kit lens. Then I'll sell my remaining lenses besides the DA20-40 to fund the 70-200.

ChristianRock · 02-10-2015, 10:33 AM

With such a small lens, I'd wait until I saw the performance including distortion and corners...

redrockcoulee · 02-10-2015, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

With such a small lens, I'd wait until I saw the performance including distortion and corners...

As long as its as good or better than the 18-55 WR I will probably buy it simply to have one WR lens, not to replace any that I currently own. I hope that it is better than the 18-55 of course.

If I can pick up a 18-55 WR really cheap prior to the avaialbity of the 18-50 or our trip to Scotland than I may be fussier on the quailty that the new lens offers prior to purchase.

ogl · 02-10-2015, 11:34 AM

Pentax HD PENTAX DA 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens 21357 B&H

**filoxophy** · 02-10-2015, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

I'm looking forward to this lens being released. Such a small zoom will be really useful, and the motor and WR are icing on the cake. All I ask is that it's sharp at 50mm at f/5.6, unlike the current kit lens.

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

Official price is reported to be £229 for this in the UK. Even if it's extra small, it's still a slow kit lens and the price doesn't look like it'll reflect that.

I hit "preorder" instantly, myself. The size was primary. If it were non-WR and screwdrive, I would have to think a little harder or wait for a unbundled kit. Truth be told, I was hoping the Limited Zoom would be this size--but since f/2.8-4 is slow for lots of people, these specs certainly would not have flown for a premium lens! TBH, $300 is kind of the breakpoint for me with this lens (performance to be determined, of course). Any more expensive, and I would be having second thoughts. Any less expensive, and Ricoh would just be giving up $$$ to me!

Originally posted by D1N0

The new hood won't be of much use on most other lenses since it is 58mm

It is also a bayonet mount, which may or may not fit other Pentax bayonets anyway.

Originally posted by Rondec

I guess. This is the sort of lens that will be discounted considerably in kits and the price will drop pretty quickly. I expect street price will end up being about 150, which probably isn't too bad considering. If I get a copy (I would enjoy using one on my K-01), I would get it used.

With the current 18-55WR being ~$200, I think the HD18-50 will be lucky to drop to $250 in the near future. The smc kit version...who knows.

Originally posted by ChristianRock

With such a small lens, I'd wait until I saw the performance including distortion and corners...

Well, I'll see what I can do to help you with that when I get my copy!

ogl · 02-11-2015, 01:54 AM

it's kit version SMS DA-L

another version HD DA

two different lenses

**Rondec** · 02-11-2015, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by filoxophy

I hit "preorder" instantly, myself. The size was primary. If it were non-WR and screwdrive, I would have to think a little harder or wait for a unbundled kit. Truth be told, I was hoping the Limited Zoom would be this size--but since f/2.8-4 is slow for lots of people, these specs certainly would not have flown for a premium lens! TBH, $300 is kind of the breakpoint for me with this lens (performance to be determined, of course). Any more expensive, and I would be having second thoughts. Any less expensive, and Ricoh would just be giving up $$$ to me!

It is also a bayonet mount, which may or may not fit other Pentax bayonets anyway.

With the current 18-55WR being ~$200, I think the HD18-50 will be lucky to drop to $250 in the near future. The smc kit version...who knows.

Well, I'll see what I can do to help you with that when I get my copy!

OK. I think I was confused, not realizing there were going to be two different versions of this lens. You are probably right about the HD version. For my K-01, I don't really care about sealing though and a D-AL version would be fine.

cxdoo · 02-11-2015, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

OK. I think I was confused, not realizing there were going to be two different versions of this lens. You are probably right about the HD version. For my K-01, I don't really care about sealing though and a D-AL version would be fine.

DA L is also sealed, the difference is in coating (SMC vs HD) and quickshift and maybe something else.

edri · 02-11-2015, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by cxdoo

DA L is also sealed, the difference is in coating (SMC vs HD) and quickshift and maybe something else.

So the kit lens will be no quick shift?!? Hmm, SMC instead of HD it is not a big disadvantage, but without quickshift seems a significant disadvantage.

Expensive last kit lenses (18-135 is a kit lens too).

robtcorl · 02-11-2015, 05:01 AM

Just checked and the K-S2 kits at B&H show the SMC on the camera photo, but the description says:
"Bundled with the camera is the compact HD PENTAX DA 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens"

Yesterday I pre-orderd the Black/Orange 2 lens kit, the other lens is the 50-200 ED WR, for $799, and didn't notice the lens photo, only went by the description.
If it's not the HD 18-50, and WR 50-200 I will not be happy

**filoxophy** · 02-11-2015, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by robtcorl

Just checked and the K-S2 kits at B&H show the SMC on the camera photo, but the description says:
"Bundled with the camera is the compact HD PENTAX DA 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens"

Yesterday I pre-orderd the Black/Orange 2 lens kit, the other lens is the 50-200 ED WR, for $799, and didn't notice the lens photo, only went by the description.
If it's not the HD 18-50, and WR 50-200 I will not be happy

It will not be the HD.

02-11-2015, 01:54 AM	#70
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	it's kit version SMS DA-L another version HD DA two different lenses Last edited by ogl; 02-11-2015 at 02:20 AM.

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02-10-2015, 08:19 AM	#61
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802 Original Poster	The new hood won't be of much use on most other lenses since it is 58mm

02-10-2015, 08:25 AM	#62
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	B&H sent out their newsletter with Pentax featured (after Nikon) and the 18-50 was listed with its MSRP: 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens: $299.95

02-10-2015, 08:28 AM	#63
woodywesty Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 725	Originally posted by goodnight They should make lenses with interchangeable rings and sell rings of every color and stripe. They'd make money from people like me, who want rings of marvelously sparkly pink. I agree! While I'd stick with tradition I think when its reasonable they should give the customer what they want. Just look at what people do to their cars...

02-10-2015, 08:29 AM	#64
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac Official price is reported to be £229 for this in the UK. Even if it's extra small, it's still a slow kit lens and the price doesn't look like it'll reflect that. I guess. This is the sort of lens that will be discounted considerably in kits and the price will drop pretty quickly. I expect street price will end up being about 150, which probably isn't too bad considering. If I get a copy (I would enjoy using one on my K-01), I would get it used.

02-10-2015, 09:24 AM	#65
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	I'll wait for the discount or for someone to sell their kit lens. Then I'll sell my remaining lenses besides the DA20-40 to fund the 70-200.

02-10-2015, 10:33 AM	#66
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	With such a small lens, I'd wait until I saw the performance including distortion and corners...

02-10-2015, 10:55 AM	#67
redrockcoulee Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 2,306	Originally posted by ChristianRock With such a small lens, I'd wait until I saw the performance including distortion and corners... As long as its as good or better than the 18-55 WR I will probably buy it simply to have one WR lens, not to replace any that I currently own. I hope that it is better than the 18-55 of course. If I can pick up a 18-55 WR really cheap prior to the avaialbity of the 18-50 or our trip to Scotland than I may be fussier on the quailty that the new lens offers prior to purchase.

02-10-2015, 11:34 AM	#68
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Pentax HD PENTAX DA 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens 21357 B&H

02-10-2015, 12:40 PM	#69
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,132	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac I'm looking forward to this lens being released. Such a small zoom will be really useful, and the motor and WR are icing on the cake. All I ask is that it's sharp at 50mm at f/5.6, unlike the current kit lens. Originally posted by Jonathan Mac Official price is reported to be £229 for this in the UK. Even if it's extra small, it's still a slow kit lens and the price doesn't look like it'll reflect that. I hit "preorder" instantly, myself. The size was primary. If it were non-WR and screwdrive, I would have to think a little harder or wait for a unbundled kit. Truth be told, I was hoping the Limited Zoom would be this size--but since f/2.8-4 is slow for lots of people, these specs certainly would not have flown for a premium lens! TBH, $300 is kind of the breakpoint for me with this lens (performance to be determined, of course). Any more expensive, and I would be having second thoughts. Any less expensive, and Ricoh would just be giving up $$$ to me! Originally posted by D1N0 The new hood won't be of much use on most other lenses since it is 58mm It is also a bayonet mount, which may or may not fit other Pentax bayonets anyway. Originally posted by Rondec I guess. This is the sort of lens that will be discounted considerably in kits and the price will drop pretty quickly. I expect street price will end up being about 150, which probably isn't too bad considering. If I get a copy (I would enjoy using one on my K-01), I would get it used. With the current 18-55WR being ~$200, I think the HD18-50 will be lucky to drop to $250 in the near future. The smc kit version...who knows. Originally posted by ChristianRock With such a small lens, I'd wait until I saw the performance including distortion and corners... Well, I'll see what I can do to help you with that when I get my copy!

02-11-2015, 03:52 AM	#71
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by filoxophy I hit "preorder" instantly, myself. The size was primary. If it were non-WR and screwdrive, I would have to think a little harder or wait for a unbundled kit. Truth be told, I was hoping the Limited Zoom would be this size--but since f/2.8-4 is slow for lots of people, these specs certainly would not have flown for a premium lens! TBH, $300 is kind of the breakpoint for me with this lens (performance to be determined, of course). Any more expensive, and I would be having second thoughts. Any less expensive, and Ricoh would just be giving up $$$ to me! It is also a bayonet mount, which may or may not fit other Pentax bayonets anyway. With the current 18-55WR being ~$200, I think the HD18-50 will be lucky to drop to $250 in the near future. The smc kit version...who knows. Well, I'll see what I can do to help you with that when I get my copy! OK. I think I was confused, not realizing there were going to be two different versions of this lens. You are probably right about the HD version. For my K-01, I don't really care about sealing though and a D-AL version would be fine.

02-11-2015, 04:00 AM	#72
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by Rondec OK. I think I was confused, not realizing there were going to be two different versions of this lens. You are probably right about the HD version. For my K-01, I don't really care about sealing though and a D-AL version would be fine. DA L is also sealed, the difference is in coating (SMC vs HD) and quickshift and maybe something else.

02-11-2015, 04:26 AM	#73
edri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: walking in the air Posts: 1,315	Originally posted by cxdoo DA L is also sealed, the difference is in coating (SMC vs HD) and quickshift and maybe something else. So the kit lens will be no quick shift?!? Hmm, SMC instead of HD it is not a big disadvantage, but without quickshift seems a significant disadvantage. Expensive last kit lenses (18-135 is a kit lens too).

02-11-2015, 05:01 AM	#74
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	Just checked and the K-S2 kits at B&H show the SMC on the camera photo, but the description says: "Bundled with the camera is the compact HD PENTAX DA 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens" Yesterday I pre-orderd the Black/Orange 2 lens kit, the other lens is the 50-200 ED WR, for $799, and didn't notice the lens photo, only went by the description. If it's not the HD 18-50, and WR 50-200 I will not be happy

02-11-2015, 05:22 AM	#75
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,132	Originally posted by robtcorl Just checked and the K-S2 kits at B&H show the SMC on the camera photo, but the description says: "Bundled with the camera is the compact HD PENTAX DA 18-50mm f/4.0-5.6 DC WR RE Lens" Yesterday I pre-orderd the Black/Orange 2 lens kit, the other lens is the 50-200 ED WR, for $799, and didn't notice the lens photo, only went by the description. If it's not the HD 18-50, and WR 50-200 I will not be happy It will not be the HD.