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02-18-2015, 09:29 AM   #91
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QuoteOriginally posted by devorama Quote
Interesting. However, they picture the SMC DA-L lens in the picture.
But it's almost universal that you don't go by the picture but by the printed description. Obviously, though, one would need to inquire directly before buying! To me this would be a big deal.

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If dealing with Pentax's webstore, always inquire before buying. And make sure to record the inquiry. And use your most reliable credit card to ensure refunds.
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I just found this video preview of the new retractable kit lens:
Video: Pentax DA-L 18?50mm f/4?5.6 DC WR RE First Impressions Review - Reviewed.com

as well as a written article that gives first impressions of both the kit lens and the K-S2
Pentax K-S2 First Impressions Review - Reviewed.com Cameras

they mentioned: "Sadly, the mechanism Pentax has used isn’t as robust as others we’ve used from Nikon, Panasonic, Sony, and Olympus. The button you press to “unlock” and extend the lens feels flimsy, and the barrel rotation feels annoyingly imprecise—almost grainy."
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QuoteOriginally posted by seventysixersfan Quote
I just found this video preview of the new retractable kit lens:
Video: Pentax DA-L 18?50mm f/4?5.6 DC WR RE First Impressions Review - Reviewed.com

as well as a written article that gives first impressions of both the kit lens and the K-S2
Pentax K-S2 First Impressions Review - Reviewed.com Cameras

they mentioned: "Sadly, the mechanism Pentax has used isn’t as robust as others we’ve used from Nikon, Panasonic, Sony, and Olympus. The button you press to “unlock” and extend the lens feels flimsy, and the barrel rotation feels annoyingly imprecise—almost grainy."
Hey, I wrote that last review. I do feel that the new 18-50 isn't the equal of some other retractable lenses—most notably the Panasonic 12–32mm—but it's more or less par for the course, build-quality wise, with past Pentax kits. It feels cheap, but it is cheap, so I don't think it's a huge deal. I'm not sure I trust the long-term reliability of that switch, though.

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Maybe the DA version will be better than the DA L in those respects.
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QuoteOriginally posted by deadwolfbones Quote
I do feel that the new 18-50 isn't the equal of some other retractable lenses—most notably the Panasonic 12–32mm—but it's more or less par for the course, build-quality wise, with past Pentax kits. It feels cheap, but it is cheap, so I don't think it's a huge deal. I'm not sure I trust the long-term reliability of that switch, though.
Interesting to compare with the 06 telephoto zoom on the Q.
It is also retractable.
Some users seem OK with the build quality,
while others have questioned it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by deadwolfbones Quote
Hey, I wrote that last review
Nice work Ben!
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Thanks!

Here's a video from my colleague Brendan showing off the lens a bit:



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I do not understand your fuzz around this lens and its range. No statements about how it performs, vs standard kit or anything sharper. 4-5,6? what is so big deal here but WR? I would prefer something like Olympus has in their choice 14-42 for "kit" and it is about same size as kit 18-55.
On wide end 18 is not wide enough by far, on long end 50 and 55, no big difference. To get under 3,5 you have use large primary lens, to get fast and sharp with small lens size -u make prime. Physics. So, in my eyes, there is no improvement at all from kit, if it is not optically much better than kit one.
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Olimpus has micro 4/3 sensor, and their 14-42 is basically the same field of view as 18-55
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vihmameister Quote
I do not understand your fuzz around this lens and its range. No statements about how it performs, vs standard kit or anything sharper. 4-5,6? what is so big deal here but WR? I would prefer something like Olympus has in their choice 14-42 for "kit" and it is about same size as kit 18-55.
On wide end 18 is not wide enough by far, on long end 50 and 55, no big difference. To get under 3,5 you have use large primary lens, to get fast and sharp with small lens size -u make prime. Physics. So, in my eyes, there is no improvement at all from kit, if it is not optically much better than kit one.
Wider = much, much larger lens.

The Olympus sensor and mirrorless design allows for smaller lenses. But you get a smaller sensor with that optical size savings.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ZeljkoS Quote
Olimpus has micro 4/3 sensor, and their 14-42 is basically the same field of view as 18-55
I have not calculated sameness by crop factor, but optically, real world results on Olympus 620 with that "kit" are much, i mean a lot better than kit 18-55 whatever version.

still, you both don't tell anything i didn't know already. So, what about the fuzz around 18-50? Is it sharper than kit or what does it add we do not have yet? What is improved, but coating?
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The big question for me, if I put it on my K-01 can I drop it in my pocket. So far on walks I'm limited to my 40 xs or 21 ltd. but mostly the 40 XS. It looks like it might be a tad too big.

I'm always looking for APS-c functionality with P&S convenience.
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