[Rorschach]

One in black the other in silver?

Or, one with and the other without mirror. [Hides in corner]

Yes, and both without on-board flash *evil grin*

[Kunzite]

Headline in the works at photorumors.com: "2 Pentax FF Bodies Confirmed! "

A month too late

[astron]

The K-3 II is a sign of things to come so I'd be shocked at this point if the full frame camera omits GPS in favor of a flash...but that means it could very well get 4.5 stops of IBIS, Pixel Shift Resolution and all the great features in the K-3 II that are new...

[Mistral75]

Would you like a 60-Mpix sensor in your full frame Pentax camera?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/17123880790/sizes/l

(camera: unknown E-mount Sony Alpha; lens: Zeiss Batis Sonnar T* FE 85mm f/1.8)

[Zygonyx]

Sony's 12 bits s....y colours
They visibly carry on with their devastating cRaw ...





Read more there :


RawDigger: detecting posterization in SONY cRAW/ARW2 files | RawDigger

[D1N0]

too bad there isn't more resolution, otherwise we could see the cam.

[reh321]

Would you like a 60-Mpix sensor in your full frame Pentax camera?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/17123880790/sizes/l

(camera: unknown E-mount Sony Alpha; lens: Zeiss Batis Sonnar T* FE 85mm f/1.8)

According to my calculations, once a full-frame sensor has passed 37MP, its cells are smaller than those of the K-50; once a full-frame sensor has passed 54MP, its cell are smaller than those of the K-3. At what point do we lose the improved color depth benefits that are supposed to be a hallmark of full-frame cameras?

[monochrome]

At what point do we lose the improved color depth benefits that are supposed to be a hallmark of full-frame cameras?

Right about the point PixelShift kicks in? <ducks>

[KDAFA]

The K-3 II is a sign of things to come so ...but that means it could very well get 4.5 stops of IBIS, Pixel Shift Resolution and all the great features in the K-3 II that are new...

Regarding that 4.5 stop IBIS, I too am hoping it will be so for the FF, but the thing is, the FF sensor is larger and hence has more mass than the APS-C sensor in the K-3II, thus I wouldn't be surprised if 4.5 stops can't be obtained.

Or, the FF might have a higher-performing IBIS unit than the one in the K-3II, but I don't know if that's getting to be a bit of wishful thinking....

[D1N0]

Regarding that 4.5 stop IBIS, I too am hoping it will be so for the FF, but the thing is, the FF sensor is larger/has more mass than the APS-C sensor in the K-3II, thus I wouldn't be surprised if 4.5 stops can't be obtained.

Or, the FF might have a higher-performance IBIS unit than the one in the K-3II, but I don't know if that's getting to be a bit of wishful thinking....

FF has about a stop advantage on the camera shake front being a bigger format. 50mm is no longer a portrait distance. So you get that for free, without any additional tech.

[KDAFA]

FF has about a stop advantage on the camera shake front being a bigger format. 50mm is no longer a portrait distance. So you get that for free, without any additional tech.

If I understand you right, focal lengths need not be multiplied by 1.5 in a FF, thus an overall gain in effectiveness of stabilisation?

But if i want an equal size image with 50mm on FF compared with 50mm (75mm equiv) in APS-C, I would have to step up closer to the subject, right? Wouldn't this neutralise the gain?

Then, to get comparable DOF as in APS-C I'd have to stop down a bit more, wouldn't I? So that would actually introduce loss...?

[D1N0]

If I understand you right, focal lengths need not be multiplied by 1.5 in a FF, thus an overall gain in effectiveness of stabilisation?

But if i want an equal size image with 50mm on FF compared with 50mm (75mm equiv) in APS-C, I would have to step up closer to the subject, right?

Then, to get comparable DOF as in APS-C I'd have to stop down a bit more, wouldn't I? So that would roughly cancel out the abovementioned gain?

So roughly speaking, comes to about the same?

You don't buy FF to get the same results as with aps-c.

[KDAFA]

You don't buy FF to get the same results as with aps-c.

Sorry, I edited my post while you replied, so your quote now differs slightly compared to my (edited) post.

In any case, I understood your point of view; thanks for the response.

[Mistral75]

too bad there isn't more resolution, otherwise we could see the cam.

Yes we can!

[KDAFA]

You don't buy FF to get the same results as with aps-c.

Reflecting further, if FF has a stabilisation advantage over APS-C, where does this advantage stem from, if I might ask? Was thinking it through but don't quite get it...

For example if as a portrait photographer I use an APS-C body @50mm focal length, effectively the IBIS has to stabilise a 75mm focal length, after multiplying 50 by 1.5.

But if instead I chose to work with a FF body, as many portrait photographers do, I would then chose a lens of approx 70-85mm focal length, say, eg. the FA77. Thus the IBIS now has to deal with a true 77mm focal length (this time without having to multiply by 1.5). So it's working out to the same thing, it seems to me. I'm sorry, I don't understand where the stabilisation advantage is coming from.