Unveiling of the Full Frame Prototype

mee · 05-29-2015, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Indeed. And on the bottom plate we would have the version number. Just like that

Similar to iPad

Its not iPad 1 or 2. its just... iPad... well until they realized how confusing that was.. and they started back with the numbering.

Perhaps we could start naming them similarly to major storms or hurricanes.... introducing the Pentax Steve and the Pentax Marie. That is about as useful as the current naming. But at least we are not dealing with Canon-like naming where a 60d is 'inferior' to a 6d yet a 5dII is 'better' than both of them.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 05-29-2015, 11:26 PM

The D810 sensor is great, but if the new Pentax uses it, I hope they can wring better skin tones from it than Nikon does.

thibs · 05-30-2015, 12:24 AM

Or they can go Leica way :
Pentax K (model 1 than model 2 or mm whatever).

D1N0 · 05-30-2015, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

The D810 sensor is great, but if the new Pentax uses it, I hope they can wring better skin tones from it than Nikon does.

That should not be an issue when shooting raw.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 05-30-2015, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

That should not be an issue when shooting raw.

I know, and I always shoot raw + JPEG, but I would like to be able to use shots straight out of the camera on occasions. The Raw files don't have great skin tones, either, and need tweaking in PP.

D1N0 · 05-30-2015, 04:58 AM

You can use the portrait jpeg setting in a Pentax. All jpeg settings are totally adaptable in camera.

ogl · 05-30-2015, 08:36 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by D1N0

There is not much difference between the Nikon and the Sony. All good and Nikon has tweaked a little better.

Nikon D800 versus Sony A7R versus Nikon D810 - Side by side camera comparison - DxOMark

these are the top 3 camera's on DXO all this sensor. There just isn't a better one. Maybe Pentax can wring out a 98, but I doubt it.

And dxo-mark renewed their website. It still sucks. But if the link doesn't work do a ctrl-F5

Ricoh can "cook" Sony sensors.

It could be 100.

kenspo · 05-30-2015, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Ricoh can "cook" Sony sensors.

It could be 100.

But it won't be!

**monochrome** · 05-30-2015, 11:00 AM

The Shadow knows . . . . .

IOO · 05-30-2015, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by mee

Similar to iPad

Its not iPad 1 or 2. its just... iPad... well until they realized how confusing that was.. and they started back with the numbering.

Perhaps we could start naming them similarly to major storms or hurricanes.... introducing the Pentax Steve and the Pentax Marie. That is about as useful as the current naming. But at least we are not dealing with Canon-like naming where a 60d is 'inferior' to a 6d yet a 5dII is 'better' than both of them.

K2 is a mountain in Himalaya, much harder to climb than Mount Everest. That's why they called the camera K2 40 yars ago. It means that it was the top of cameras, the best. So it it not so meaningless. When Pentax shifted from the Ist name, the first had the K100D and K110D. Then came the K10D, which was simular to Canon, lower number, better camera. Followed by K20D and K200D, still like Canon,which had EOS 30D, EOS 40D. They probably found out that they should leave this when they broke with Samsung.

So they chose K-7, K-5 and K-3, all odd numbers for crop factor. Including the K-01, where 0 is for 0 mirror.

So a FF can be numbered K2 (K-2) and it will be the peak once again. Later they can cose to use II, III like Canon 1D MI and so on. Or they could use K4, K6, K8. And remeber what they have for sale in Japan T-shirts an so on with "K2 always with you".

So the naming isn't that meaningless.

And why is the smallest camera called Q? After James Bond's Q, who delivers the most famous and sophisticated toys for adults. Why should they otherwise call it a "toylens" and "Standard prime lens"? It's after the lines of Bonds standard weapon in every movie, and standard about what kind of toys Q has delivered this time. It's obvious.

kenspo · 05-30-2015, 11:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

The Shadow knows . . . . .

Good thing i can turn on the lights then!

**hjoseph7** · 05-30-2015, 11:38 AM

What is this click bait ?

waterfall · 05-30-2015, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by hjoseph7

What is this click bait ?

Well, the Russians have a four story building in St. Petersburg filled with trolls (hundreds!) who do nothing but post online for one thing and against another. So why shouldn't trolls be organized even here in the land of the tree and the home of the pave? Click bait is used by trolls. Maybe I don't understand your question? Is click bait used in walleye fishing?

rawr · 05-30-2015, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by waterfall

the Russians have a four story building in St. Petersburg filled with trolls (hundreds!) who do nothing but post online for one thing and against another

Amazing how this hoax story has gotten a life online. People will believe anything.

mee · 05-30-2015, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by IOO

K2 is a mountain in Himalaya, much harder to climb than Mount Everest. That's why they called the camera K2 40 yars ago. It means that it was the top of cameras, the best. So it it not so meaningless.

The fact that you thought it wise to educate me on what 'K2' is tells me otherwise..

05-30-2015, 11:14 AM	#580
IOO Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Flateby Photos: Gallery Posts: 294	Originally posted by mee Similar to iPad Its not iPad 1 or 2. its just... iPad... well until they realized how confusing that was.. and they started back with the numbering. Perhaps we could start naming them similarly to major storms or hurricanes.... introducing the Pentax Steve and the Pentax Marie. That is about as useful as the current naming. But at least we are not dealing with Canon-like naming where a 60d is 'inferior' to a 6d yet a 5dII is 'better' than both of them. K2 is a mountain in Himalaya, much harder to climb than Mount Everest. That's why they called the camera K2 40 yars ago. It means that it was the top of cameras, the best. So it it not so meaningless. When Pentax shifted from the Ist name, the first had the K100D and K110D. Then came the K10D, which was simular to Canon, lower number, better camera. Followed by K20D and K200D, still like Canon,which had EOS 30D, EOS 40D. They probably found out that they should leave this when they broke with Samsung. So they chose K-7, K-5 and K-3, all odd numbers for crop factor. Including the K-01, where 0 is for 0 mirror. So a FF can be numbered K2 (K-2) and it will be the peak once again. Later they can cose to use II, III like Canon 1D MI and so on. Or they could use K4, K6, K8. And remeber what they have for sale in Japan T-shirts an so on with "K2 always with you". So the naming isn't that meaningless. And why is the smallest camera called Q? After James Bond's Q, who delivers the most famous and sophisticated toys for adults. Why should they otherwise call it a "toylens" and "Standard prime lens"? It's after the lines of Bonds standard weapon in every movie, and standard about what kind of toys Q has delivered this time. It's obvious. Last edited by IOO; 05-30-2015 at 02:16 PM.

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05-29-2015, 02:58 PM	#571
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Asahiflex Indeed. And on the bottom plate we would have the version number. Just like that Similar to iPad Its not iPad 1 or 2. its just... iPad... well until they realized how confusing that was.. and they started back with the numbering. Perhaps we could start naming them similarly to major storms or hurricanes.... introducing the Pentax Steve and the Pentax Marie. That is about as useful as the current naming. But at least we are not dealing with Canon-like naming where a 60d is 'inferior' to a 6d yet a 5dII is 'better' than both of them.

05-29-2015, 11:26 PM	#572
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	The D810 sensor is great, but if the new Pentax uses it, I hope they can wring better skin tones from it than Nikon does.

05-30-2015, 12:24 AM	#573
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Or they can go Leica way : Pentax K (model 1 than model 2 or mm whatever).

05-30-2015, 04:19 AM	#574
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan The D810 sensor is great, but if the new Pentax uses it, I hope they can wring better skin tones from it than Nikon does. That should not be an issue when shooting raw.

05-30-2015, 04:31 AM	#575
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by D1N0 That should not be an issue when shooting raw. I know, and I always shoot raw + JPEG, but I would like to be able to use shots straight out of the camera on occasions. The Raw files don't have great skin tones, either, and need tweaking in PP.

05-30-2015, 04:58 AM	#576
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	You can use the portrait jpeg setting in a Pentax. All jpeg settings are totally adaptable in camera.

05-30-2015, 08:36 AM - 2 Likes	#577
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by D1N0 There is not much difference between the Nikon and the Sony. All good and Nikon has tweaked a little better. Nikon D800 versus Sony A7R versus Nikon D810 - Side by side camera comparison - DxOMark these are the top 3 camera's on DXO all this sensor. There just isn't a better one. Maybe Pentax can wring out a 98, but I doubt it. And dxo-mark renewed their website. It still sucks. But if the link doesn't work do a ctrl-F5 Ricoh can "cook" Sony sensors. It could be 100.

05-30-2015, 09:35 AM	#578
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ogl Ricoh can "cook" Sony sensors. It could be 100. But it won't be!

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05-30-2015, 11:38 AM	#582
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,046	What is this click bait ?

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waterfall Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,812	Originally posted by hjoseph7 What is this click bait ? Well, the Russians have a four story building in St. Petersburg filled with trolls (hundreds!) who do nothing but post online for one thing and against another. So why shouldn't trolls be organized even here in the land of the tree and the home of the pave? Click bait is used by trolls. Maybe I don't understand your question? Is click bait used in walleye fishing?

05-30-2015, 03:12 PM	#584
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by waterfall the Russians have a four story building in St. Petersburg filled with trolls (hundreds!) who do nothing but post online for one thing and against another Amazing how this hoax story has gotten a life online. People will believe anything.

05-30-2015, 03:29 PM	#585
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by IOO K2 is a mountain in Himalaya, much harder to climb than Mount Everest. That's why they called the camera K2 40 yars ago. It means that it was the top of cameras, the best. So it it not so meaningless. The fact that you thought it wise to educate me on what 'K2' is tells me otherwise..