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Tom S. · 06-06-2008, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

An all new 4 element polystyrene lens that has a maximum aperture of f11.0 and a minimum aperture of f11.0? That must have been a news release typo error.
Ben:)

Does this mean they have finally done away with the wax coated cardboard tubes used in previous models?

benjikan · 06-06-2008, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Tom S.

Does this mean they have finally done away with the wax coated cardboard tubes used in previous models?

I'm afraid so. They have taken on a new environmentally friendly approach to this challenge and have decided to use discarded "Tampon" tubes to project light on to the subject. Very innovative indeed.

christinelandon · 06-06-2008, 11:57 PM

Now that's very RAW indeed, Ben! As the Brits say, "bloody hell!"

Teo D'Or · 06-12-2008, 01:25 AM

WOW, i'm simply stunned!!!

Ben, i'm coming to Paris next week, any chance i could get to take a peek? I'd have something to tell the guys when i go back home, they will be sooooo gratefull!!!!!!!!

benjikan · 06-12-2008, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Teo D'Or

WOW, i'm simply stunned!!!

Ben, i'm coming to Paris next week, any chance i could get to take a peek? I'd have something to tell the guys when i go back home, they will be sooooo gratefull!!!!!!!!

We are having some technical difficulties and even though I would love to have you watch a shoot with this "Gorgeous Specimen of a Camera", we are still working out some minor problems with the lens elements. The polystyrene elements tend to melt a bit when there is direct sunshine on the front element. Some of the lenses have burst in to flames under rare conditions, like shooting outdoors in the sunlight. Two of our volunteer beta testers had to be treated for 2nd degree burns on the upper half of their torso and face. No problem though, they prefer to be behind the camera rather than in front of it. I think there was too much oil base in our last batch of lenses. We may have to use a real "Glass" front element if the problem cannot be solved. As a result the price will have to be augmented.

Thanks for offering though

Pentaxke · 06-12-2008, 10:47 AM

So, where can I buy?

Gooshin · 06-12-2008, 10:49 AM

go easy on the text controls and caps man.

ftpaddict · 06-12-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

So, where can I buy?

I'll sell you one at half price. Make it $3000 and we'll shake on it!

Pentaxke · 06-12-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

I'll sell you one at half price. Make it $3000 and we'll shake on it!

I read somewhere that introduction price would be €2000,-... Hmmm, might as well wait on that one...

Teo D'Or · 06-12-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

We are having some technical difficulties and even though I would love to have you watch a shoot with this "Gorgeous Specimen of a Camera", we are still working out some minor problems with the lens elements. The polystyrene elements tend to melt a bit when there is direct sunshine on the front element. Some of the lenses have burst in to flames under rare conditions, like shooting outdoors in the sunlight. Two of our volunteer beta testers had to be treated for 2nd degree burns on the upper half of their torso and face. No problem though, they prefer to be behind the camera rather than in front of it. I think there was too much oil base in our last batch of lenses. We may have to use a real "Glass" front element if the problem cannot be solved. As a result the price will have to be augmented.

Thanks for offering though

We could shoot underwater, I'm sure this baby is weather sealed AND underwater proof.

lbam · 06-12-2008, 06:17 PM

The buoyancy of the polystyrene may stop you getting below a couple feet deep though...
Can I recommend "Papier Mache" as a modern alternative?

little laker · 06-12-2008, 09:22 PM

Ben, I had a meeting with Holga myself today, and they were saying they're a little worried that your revealing more than your NDA allows. You may want to start watching what you say

Oh, I also spoke to Betavision earlier this week, and they were saying might have some product samples for you.
They claim they're tapes will give you less noise than DAT Cassette Tape

benjikan · 06-12-2008, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by little laker

Ben, I had a meeting with Holga myself today, and they were saying they're a little worried that your revealing more than your NDA allows. You may want to start watching what you say

Oh, I also spoke to Betavision earlier this week, and they were saying might have some product samples for you.
They claim they're tapes will give you less noise than DAT Cassette Tape

Awwwww DUDE...Tanx

Your the Man

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06-06-2008, 07:38 AM	#16
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	Originally posted by benjikan An all new 4 element polystyrene lens that has a maximum aperture of f11.0 and a minimum aperture of f11.0? That must have been a news release typo error. Ben:) Does this mean they have finally done away with the wax coated cardboard tubes used in previous models?

06-06-2008, 08:03 AM	#17
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by Tom S. Does this mean they have finally done away with the wax coated cardboard tubes used in previous models? I'm afraid so. They have taken on a new environmentally friendly approach to this challenge and have decided to use discarded "Tampon" tubes to project light on to the subject. Very innovative indeed.

06-06-2008, 11:57 PM	#18
christinelandon Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 812	Now that's very RAW indeed, Ben! As the Brits say, "bloody hell!"

06-12-2008, 01:25 AM	#19
Teo D'Or Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bucharest Posts: 37	WOW, i'm simply stunned!!! Ben, i'm coming to Paris next week, any chance i could get to take a peek? I'd have something to tell the guys when i go back home, they will be sooooo gratefull!!!!!!!!

06-12-2008, 06:13 AM	#20
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by Teo D'Or WOW, i'm simply stunned!!! Ben, i'm coming to Paris next week, any chance i could get to take a peek? I'd have something to tell the guys when i go back home, they will be sooooo gratefull!!!!!!!! We are having some technical difficulties and even though I would love to have you watch a shoot with this "Gorgeous Specimen of a Camera", we are still working out some minor problems with the lens elements. The polystyrene elements tend to melt a bit when there is direct sunshine on the front element. Some of the lenses have burst in to flames under rare conditions, like shooting outdoors in the sunlight. Two of our volunteer beta testers had to be treated for 2nd degree burns on the upper half of their torso and face. No problem though, they prefer to be behind the camera rather than in front of it. I think there was too much oil base in our last batch of lenses. We may have to use a real "Glass" front element if the problem cannot be solved. As a result the price will have to be augmented. Thanks for offering though

06-12-2008, 10:47 AM	#21
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	So, where can I buy?

06-12-2008, 10:49 AM	#22
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	go easy on the text controls and caps man.

06-12-2008, 10:58 AM	#23
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by Pentaxke So, where can I buy? I'll sell you one at half price. Make it $3000 and we'll shake on it!

06-12-2008, 11:14 AM	#24
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by ftpaddict I'll sell you one at half price. Make it $3000 and we'll shake on it! I read somewhere that introduction price would be €2000,-... Hmmm, might as well wait on that one...

06-12-2008, 12:29 PM	#25
Teo D'Or Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bucharest Posts: 37	Originally posted by benjikan We are having some technical difficulties and even though I would love to have you watch a shoot with this "Gorgeous Specimen of a Camera", we are still working out some minor problems with the lens elements. The polystyrene elements tend to melt a bit when there is direct sunshine on the front element. Some of the lenses have burst in to flames under rare conditions, like shooting outdoors in the sunlight. Two of our volunteer beta testers had to be treated for 2nd degree burns on the upper half of their torso and face. No problem though, they prefer to be behind the camera rather than in front of it. I think there was too much oil base in our last batch of lenses. We may have to use a real "Glass" front element if the problem cannot be solved. As a result the price will have to be augmented. Thanks for offering though We could shoot underwater, I'm sure this baby is weather sealed AND underwater proof.

06-12-2008, 06:17 PM	#26
lbam Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 442	The buoyancy of the polystyrene may stop you getting below a couple feet deep though... Can I recommend "Papier Mache" as a modern alternative?

06-12-2008, 09:22 PM	#27
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Ben, I had a meeting with Holga myself today, and they were saying they're a little worried that your revealing more than your NDA allows. You may want to start watching what you say Oh, I also spoke to Betavision earlier this week, and they were saying might have some product samples for you. They claim they're tapes will give you less noise than DAT Cassette Tape

06-12-2008, 11:59 PM	#28
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by little laker Ben, I had a meeting with Holga myself today, and they were saying they're a little worried that your revealing more than your NDA allows. You may want to start watching what you say Oh, I also spoke to Betavision earlier this week, and they were saying might have some product samples for you. They claim they're tapes will give you less noise than DAT Cassette Tape Awwwww DUDE...Tanx Your the Man

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