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04-07-2015, 02:09 PM   #16
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I gotta admit, the lens is pretty sharp when stopped down, heh...

The soft focus effect is too strong, in my opinion. I don't think the FA 85 F2.8 soft is as crazy wide open (but then again it's only F2.8).

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If you place a single lens element in front of a camera, you would get a similar effect.

http://www.diyphotography.net/files/images/3/3952837792_92f6f73949.jpg
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QuoteOriginally posted by blackcloudbrew Quote
With Lensbabies, it's not the price, it's the look. If you want that look, you'll pay the price.
Yeah, but the look.. does not look that good. Those sample photos aren't very inspiring, and I'm sure they are the best they could come up with for their marketing purposes. The average user will get even worse photos. The softness is a bit cliche, and the glow looks odd. So many older manual lenses have a special look, and some modern lenses as well. If they can sell that lens at that price, go ahead, but its not for me.
But good that it is announced for Pentax. Looks like third parties are noticing Pentax.

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I have the original Pentax 85 soft, and it's OK for some images. Works best with pastel colors, bright light and very low contrast. Flowers are a natural, and maybe children (I don't do children, or people in general). Easy to over do, over use a soft focus lens. If someone wanted to go bargain on such a lens I'd send them looking on EBAY for the 100mm old-time portrait lens once offered by Spiratone, although its a bit long for APS-C, or trying a close-up filter/lens mounted directly via tubes or bellows and a reverse adapter.

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The shots in this review are much better than the photos on the Lensbaby site.
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misalign elements
Haha, mean comment but I agree.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RGlasel Quote
How is this artistic compared to flinging paint at a canvas,
on that note... at a local fashion show a local painter/artist was selling their work. They had some beautiful images done, then a splatter paint one. The splatter one I saw a transaction actually take place on the final day of the show. The splatter one was also almost double the price of the others. Granted it was also on larger canvas (about 4-5 feet tall). The price was about as much as the new 70-200 f2.8 btw.

but hey. whatever floats your boat right?!
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QuoteOriginally posted by RGlasel Quote
flinging paint at a canvas
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not art. And for artists like Pollock, flinging paint at canvas isn't just some random thing:

QuoteOriginally posted by Stan Brakhage:
They were, like, commenting, and they used the words “chance operations” — which was no bother to me because I was hearing it regularly from John Cage — and the power and the wonder of it and so forth. This really angered Pollock very deeply and he said, “Don’t give me any of your ‘chance operations.'” He said, “You see that doorknob?” and there was a doorknob about fifty feet from where he was sitting that was, in fact, the door that everyone was going to have to exit. Drunk as he was, he just with one swirl of his brush picked up a glob of paint, hurled it, and hit that doorknob smack-on with very little paint over the edges. And then he said, “And that’s the way out.”


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QuoteOriginally posted by narual Quote
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not art. And for artists like Pollock, flinging paint at canvas isn't just some random thing:
That's how a lot of art gets sold
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QuoteOriginally posted by narual Quote
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not art. And for artists like Pollock, flinging paint at canvas isn't just some random thing:
Just because the artist declares their work to be art, doesn't mean it is to everyone. I'm verring off topic, but no one can declare something to be artistic for someone else, without the other person's permission. I can only make that declaration for myself.

I was actually ranking paint flinging ahead of using the Velvet lens, mainly because paint flinging is far more purposeful and more accurately represents what the artist is attempting to communicate. Taking blurry, hazy photos with limited control over the final result is more like putting a typewriter in front of a monkey.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RGlasel Quote
is more like putting a typewriter in front of a monkey.
huh?

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huh?
I was referring to this: Infinite monkey theorem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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QuoteOriginally posted by narual Quote
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not art. And for artists like Pollock, flinging paint at canvas isn't just some random thing:
I stared long and hard at a HUGE Pollock canvas at MOMA years back; sort of interesting colors & textures (in places the paint is thick as it comes squirting from the tube). Great art? Well, if the artist says it is, who will question? Many years back an issue of Modern (or maybe Popular) Photography magazine had a series of smeary, out-of-focus, tilted, shaken, hazy, dirty lens images that documented the progression of creativity by an obscure modernist European photographer with lots of explanation as to meaning, intent, vision, etc.(It was hard to understand the images without the commentary). You could almost bite into it, except the magazine was issued on April 1.
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They should make it in a Leica-T mount
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Review: Lensbaby Velvet 56mm f/1.6 Macro Review
Love the review, particularly the MTF and CA charts. I would see the Velvet 56 being very useful for video work on those POV sequences where the person has been drugged.


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