New K-3 firmware has a bug

thibs · 04-22-2015, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Conventional wisdom is that there is little value and often some risk in upgrading firmware (except, perhaps, once when the device is new) unless there is a specific fix or enhancement you are needing. I held off on v1.30 for the K10D for most of the time that I owned the camera and only finally upgraded when I bought an AF lens without screw drive.

Wanna brick a motherboard or one of its subsystems? Start fiddling with the firmware.

Steve

I'll add that most manufacturers will clearly state that upgrading firmware is at user's own risk (as lame as it may seem).

Parallax · 04-22-2015, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

Canon has had their share of bugs, problems, issues over the years. They continued to grow.

Yep. I defy anyone to name a successful manufacturer of any product that has a flawless record. People produce products. People aren't perfect.

Tom777 · 04-22-2015, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

Canon has had their share of bugs, problems, issues over the years. They continued to grow.

what the BUGS or Canon

Tom G

**dadipentak** · 04-22-2015, 07:25 AM

Oh, dear! Some poor schmo is gonna have to fall on his sword.

Last edited by dadipentak; 04-22-2015 at 07:31 AM.

AquaDome · 04-22-2015, 08:50 AM

It's a conspiracy. This bug sabotages the K-3 so you have to buy a K-3ii. Its actually all very brilliant planning on Rico's part. Codename: Backlight

r0ckstarr · 04-22-2015, 09:54 AM

I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread.

D1N0 · 04-22-2015, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread.

I guess we don't

thibs · 04-22-2015, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

I guess we don't

Or we do. If they all do that on DPR forums, I'm all for it

Parallax · 04-22-2015, 10:42 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread.

Originally posted by D1N0

I guess we don't

Originally posted by thibs

Or we do. If they all do that on DPR forums, I'm all for it

My head hurts.......

SpecialK · 04-22-2015, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by AquaDome

It's a conspiracy. This bug sabotages the K-3 so you have to buy a K-3ii. Its actually all very brilliant planning on Rico's part. Codename: Backlight

They used Operation: Delayed Mirror Flop on my K5, only triggered by reading about it 6 months after the warranty expired...

tvdtvdtvd · 04-27-2015, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Conventional wisdom is that there is little value and often some risk in upgrading firmware (except, perhaps, once when the device is new) unless there is a specific fix or enhancement you are needing. I held off on v1.30 for the K10D for most of the time that I owned the camera and only finally upgraded when I bought an AF lens without screw drive.

Wanna brick a motherboard or one of its subsystems? Start fiddling with the firmware.

Steve

Further wisdom dictates to wait until the early adopters have sussed out any problems with a new firmware update.
If anything, Ricoh is following tech industry norm by releasing an update into the wild with minimal testing.

Thank you Early Adopters! Ricoh now knows it has a buggy firmware and I know to pass on 1.20. I'll be watching
and waiting when 1.21 comes out. History has taught me I won't have long to wait before the Early Adopters do
their job.

Dlanor Sekao · 04-28-2015, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread.

I think the Boss here might squelch that idea.
I thought the same and it was a No Go and got closed. ...guess the K3II hasn't earned its distinct place yet ?
Maybe if we keep trying it will slip by unnoticed ?.....we could do a Mass Posting ?....lol.
Someone distract him with images of steaming Doughnuts over on the K3 satire thread.....and numbers of us can multi-post while hes drooling....lol

**jbinpg** · 05-03-2015, 02:23 PM

Jim King over on the other forum posted today that flicking the shutter switch to the preview position makes the screen go black. Haven't tested it myself yet but I was wondering why I was not bothered by this bug much. Perhaps this is why.

rawr · 05-03-2015, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by jbinpg

flicking the shutter switch to the preview position makes the screen go black.

True. It does. But the second you touch the shutter button, the rear screen illumination comes on again. So it's not really a fix.

derekkite · 05-03-2015, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by jbinpg

Jim King over on the other forum posted today that flicking the shutter switch to the preview position makes the screen go black. Haven't tested it myself yet but I was wondering why I was not bothered by this bug much. Perhaps this is why.

Outside or in good light it isn't noticeable. I haven't noticed an appreciable difference in battery use either. If you are inside or in very low light it is annoying.

04-28-2015, 04:28 PM	#87
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457	Originally posted by r0ckstarr I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread. I think the Boss here might squelch that idea. I thought the same and it was a No Go and got closed. ...guess the K3II hasn't earned its distinct place yet ? Maybe if we keep trying it will slip by unnoticed ?.....we could do a Mass Posting ?....lol. Someone distract him with images of steaming Doughnuts over on the K3 satire thread.....and numbers of us can multi-post while hes drooling....lol Last edited by Dlanor Sekao; 04-28-2015 at 04:42 PM.

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04-22-2015, 04:24 AM	#76
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by stevebrot Conventional wisdom is that there is little value and often some risk in upgrading firmware (except, perhaps, once when the device is new) unless there is a specific fix or enhancement you are needing. I held off on v1.30 for the K10D for most of the time that I owned the camera and only finally upgraded when I bought an AF lens without screw drive. Wanna brick a motherboard or one of its subsystems? Start fiddling with the firmware. Steve I'll add that most manufacturers will clearly state that upgrading firmware is at user's own risk (as lame as it may seem).

04-22-2015, 05:02 AM	#77
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by r0ckstarr Canon has had their share of bugs, problems, issues over the years. They continued to grow. Yep. I defy anyone to name a successful manufacturer of any product that has a flawless record. People produce products. People aren't perfect.

04-22-2015, 07:14 AM	#78
Tom777 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Photos: Gallery Posts: 153	Originally posted by r0ckstarr Canon has had their share of bugs, problems, issues over the years. They continued to grow. what the BUGS or Canon Tom G

04-22-2015, 07:25 AM	#79
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Oh, dear! Some poor schmo is gonna have to fall on his sword. Last edited by dadipentak; 04-22-2015 at 07:31 AM.

04-22-2015, 08:50 AM	#80
AquaDome Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New Carlisle, IN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,475	It's a conspiracy. This bug sabotages the K-3 so you have to buy a K-3ii. Its actually all very brilliant planning on Rico's part. Codename: Backlight

04-22-2015, 09:54 AM	#81
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread.

04-22-2015, 09:55 AM	#82
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by r0ckstarr I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread. I guess we don't

04-22-2015, 10:11 AM	#83
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by D1N0 I guess we don't Or we do. If they all do that on DPR forums, I'm all for it

04-22-2015, 10:42 AM - 1 Like	#84
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by r0ckstarr I guess we need a "Why I won't buy a K3ii" thread. Originally posted by D1N0 I guess we don't Originally posted by thibs Or we do. If they all do that on DPR forums, I'm all for it My head hurts.......

04-22-2015, 05:27 PM	#85
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,481	Originally posted by AquaDome It's a conspiracy. This bug sabotages the K-3 so you have to buy a K-3ii. Its actually all very brilliant planning on Rico's part. Codename: Backlight They used Operation: Delayed Mirror Flop on my K5, only triggered by reading about it 6 months after the warranty expired...

04-27-2015, 08:27 PM	#86
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by stevebrot Conventional wisdom is that there is little value and often some risk in upgrading firmware (except, perhaps, once when the device is new) unless there is a specific fix or enhancement you are needing. I held off on v1.30 for the K10D for most of the time that I owned the camera and only finally upgraded when I bought an AF lens without screw drive. Wanna brick a motherboard or one of its subsystems? Start fiddling with the firmware. Steve Further wisdom dictates to wait until the early adopters have sussed out any problems with a new firmware update. If anything, Ricoh is following tech industry norm by releasing an update into the wild with minimal testing. Thank you Early Adopters! Ricoh now knows it has a buggy firmware and I know to pass on 1.20. I'll be watching and waiting when 1.21 comes out. History has taught me I won't have long to wait before the Early Adopters do their job.

05-03-2015, 02:23 PM	#88
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	Jim King over on the other forum posted today that flicking the shutter switch to the preview position makes the screen go black. Haven't tested it myself yet but I was wondering why I was not bothered by this bug much. Perhaps this is why.

05-03-2015, 02:33 PM	#89
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by jbinpg flicking the shutter switch to the preview position makes the screen go black. True. It does. But the second you touch the shutter button, the rear screen illumination comes on again. So it's not really a fix.

05-03-2015, 03:13 PM	#90
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by jbinpg Jim King over on the other forum posted today that flicking the shutter switch to the preview position makes the screen go black. Haven't tested it myself yet but I was wondering why I was not bothered by this bug much. Perhaps this is why. Outside or in good light it isn't noticeable. I haven't noticed an appreciable difference in battery use either. If you are inside or in very low light it is annoying.