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04-18-2015, 09:43 PM   #316
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QuoteOriginally posted by goldenarrow Quote
Could the new K-3 II use the new IMX-271 ? It is 24 mp and has a new embedded clock to allow high speed multistream transfers (4K movies and stills taken from the movie stream). Seems like Sony's response to Canon's new tech for fast movie streams. I hope Ricoh goes with this new chip for the K-3 II but it might mean tweaking their interface to the chip. See these links:

Sony Global - Products

Sony Global - Technology

You might be onto something...

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The Sony IMX-271 sensor + Fujitsu/Socionext Milbeaut (8th generation) image processing chip working together would be very interesting.
rough translation on this sensor:

(From DPreview) Also of note is a new APS-C sensor, the IMX271, which has a relatively high maximum full-resolution readout frame rate of 19fps (up from the 8.7fps readout of the previous generation IMX193 APS-C sensor, which is likely what is found in cameras like the Nikon D5300). This could be beneficial for high-speed readout applications. Furthermore, the IMX271 includes a Scalable Low Voltage Signaling Embedded Clock (SLVS-EC), which Sony claims is a new interface technology that can enable the use of high speed and multi-stream output functions of the sensor for high speed movies, as well as multi-frame, high dynamic range, and still/movie simultaneous capture.

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For all the talk of the K3 auto focus not being adequate, we are really only talking about tracking issues. The focus itself is quite good. As you introduce more auto focus points and more complexity to the auto focus module, you introduce a significant component of user variability and whether or not they can figure out what settings are best for the way they shoot. I already had some difficulty with the K3 figuring out what settings were best, I imagine a K3 II will be worse.

Nothing will make SDM work faster though and nothing will make a lens with a long focus throw have a short one. A 50-135 and DA *55 are both slow lenses to focus for both these reasons and as far as I can tell we aren't going to get a camera that will turn these into sports optics, even though it might be nice.
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People do themselves a disservice by thinking the K3 AF is inferior where we all now know (Ricoh has confirmed this) the SDM wasn't up to snuff. The new D-FA lenses are really fast, faster than the new Sigma 150-600 on a Nikon D700. (our forum member thibs has confirmed this firsthand, and soon many of you lucky people who pre-ordered the new D-fas will see yourself),

The screwdrive on the K3 is really fast, for us birding/wildlife amateurs is really responsive, the new Dc motors should perform as well or better...


Yes but the K-3 only has their focus points bunched together in the center. I would hope to think that Pentax will add AF points similar to what Canikon has just to be on par with the competition.

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Whatever features it will have I hope will be significant. I still have to add another camera and a macro lens to My arsenal then, probably additional add-ons will be another 3 years down the line for me. I'm sure this will hurt my pocket.
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I don't believe we will see more phase AF points on K3 II.
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Like I said, I believe one the main feature will be tethering with LIghtroom. This will make a huge difference for many peoples.
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Like I said, I believe one the main feature will be tethering with LIghtroom. This will make a huge difference for many peoples.
That would be an awesome feature. One we have waited to long for.

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Like I said, I believe one the main feature will be tethering with LIghtroom. This will make a huge difference for many peoples.
I've heard that the new version (6) of Lightroom is being released on Tuesday April 22nd, same day as the K3II, could it be that there is a Tethering of these two products?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wired Quote
K01ii (designed by Phillipe starke)
You jest, but I'd be interested in this, assuming that the price + performance are reasonable.

Come to think of it, a new designer mirrorless body every two or three years would be a nice sales gimmick -- much more interesting than multicoloured versions of standard SLRs.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
How about a video of Mathew McConaughey's reacting to the new Star Wars trailer

https://youtu.be/PYHdQUyOunA
Hillarious. Thanks for sharing.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Zygonyx Quote
I don't believe we will see more phase AF points on K3 II.
Me either. I think the K-3 AF array stays the same for at least one more body. I think the K-3II have improved algorithms and more processing power. I don't think we will see a new array until the FF body is released.


I don't think we really know how good the K-3 AF is. It has been held back by the lenses, but by the time all the lenses get updated with faster AF motors, we will be talking about the K-3V.


I am hoping Ricoh has an updated lens ready to be released with the new K-3II. Maybe the DA* 55mm F/1.4 with the new DC motor and HD coatings so we can see the real improvement.
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Yes but the K-3 only has their focus points bunched together in the center. I would hope to think that Pentax will add AF points similar to what Canikon has just to be on par with the competition.
I understand, if I read the specs on a Canon/Nikon AF and Pentax AF of course I'd be biased towards the former, their explanations on the AF tech can cover more real estate on the page as well. But In real life it's going to be hard to see the difference. It's true the K3 Af points are bunched together in the center, but that's what you need most of the time when shooting wildlife or action (unless you're shooting a flock of birds and for some reason you want those of the corner to be the focus point) Try the K3 with a fast F*/FA* 300, FA 200, or (the best of the bunch in terms of speed) the F*/FA 135mm f2.8 and you'll be blown away by the combo's performance.

The real problem is the lenses. I prefer shooting with lenses that are a decade or older because the SDM's of today just can't keep up with the K3. The Da* 300, DA* 60-250 (which I own) and the Da* 200mm f2.8 are fast enough, but not mind blowing. Perhaps we have to blame Pentax or Hoya for the SDM designs, but with the new DC i believe that things are going to improve tremendously.

I'm out, be back Tuesday with news on the K3ii specs

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
For all the talk of the K3 auto focus not being adequate, we are really only talking about tracking issues. The focus itself is quite good. As you introduce more auto focus points and more complexity to the auto focus module, you introduce a significant component of user variability and whether or not they can figure out what settings are best for the way they shoot. I already had some difficulty with the K3 figuring out what settings were best, I imagine a K3 II will be worse.

Nothing will make SDM work faster though and nothing will make a lens with a long focus throw have a short one. A 50-135 and DA *55 are both slow lenses to focus for both these reasons and as far as I can tell we aren't going to get a camera that will turn these into sports optics, even though it might be nice.
I think you missunderstand the AF issue with K-3. We know the lack of speed is due to the SDM. The issue from the K-3 is the central AFfocus point which is too big and because of that not précise enough. I wish it was smaller.

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As to Sony and their chip deals - I don't believe they ever made a 12Mpx APSc camera that used video, the A500 didn't but the k-x and k-r did. Curious to me at the time. I'm looking forward to the way Pentax implements Millenium Falcon tech into the new body.. wait I think I'm crossing posts/streams now

I'm still surprised that nobody has dared to offer a 25x25 or 30x30 camera sensor; I've no idea of resulting crop factors & don't really care. Just use a larger chunk of the lens' best zones and we'll manage our crop ratios later, thanks. Maybe me & my soldering iron should form a kickstart company? I'll buy Sony A7 chips and snap off a chunk

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