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04-21-2015, 09:20 AM - 2 Likes   #526
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Hmmm. The flash is way more useful than GPS or Compass. GPS and compass have NO EFFECT on picture quality. A flash can make or break the shot. I didn't have a flash with me, but had one built into the D200 and popped it up. It made this shot happen. With the new K3II I'd have been SOL. Who cares if I knew where this photo was made if it sucked?

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Why on earth did they get rid of in-built flash?? This omission seems utterly uncalled for. Do they think the 24 MP sony sensor is a low light beast like the A7S? Oh wait maybe it is a FULL FRAME sensor. Or maybe Ricoh is super duper confident of the low light abilities of this 24 MP sensor :-P
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This plus is the K-3 will (seemingly) be discontinued once this body comes on the market.. meaning the K-3 will be CHEAPer!

Won't have cash for a FF body for years.. but might could swing a K-3 classic once they hit $500 (and they will oh how they will).
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Hard to know.

A cheap flash is cheaper than GPS and brighter than any built in flash.

I was hoping for a better sensor but the pixel shift might make up for it.

My guess is that the K-3 II and the K-3 get produced in parallel.

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The K3 II specs are making the KS2 look like a FLAGSHIP camera WTH is going on here?
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QuoteOriginally posted by aoeu Quote
Hard to know.

A cheap flash is cheaper than GPS and brighter than any built in flash.

I was hoping for a better sensor but the pixel shift might make up for it.

My guess is that the K-3 II and the K-3 get produced in parallel.
I will spare you the details, how i know, who said what but:
(my guarantee) The sensor on the K3ii is THE LATEST AND GREATEST available on the market at this time.



I thought people were taking the lack of pop-up flash pretty well, I should have waited a little longer before I pulled out the worlds smallest violin.

Pentax I going old school, reminiscent of film days. No build in flash. Stick a nifty fifty (or 35mm) get rid of the kit zoom. Let's get back to basics.

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if these specs are true, then this strongly suggests that the FF camera will also come with built-in GPS/Astrotracer and no popup flash (which explains the "bigger" prism). Better get used to packing those AF201FG flashes in your kit!

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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
if these specs are true, then this strongly suggests that the FF camera will also come with built-in GPS/Astrotracer and no popup flash (which explains the "bigger" prism). Better get used to packing those AF201FG flashes in your kit!

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(Packing the AF 201FG), Now i know what that right little pocket (within pocket) on my jeans is for....

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How will the K-3II trigger the Pentax Flashes in wireless mode since it use the onboard flash for this purpose? OK 201 FG sure.

Maybe 201fg comes in the box along with charger and battery?
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An alternate POV:

Thank goodness they got rid of that vestigial built-in flash. I've been carrying around that useless POS all these years and in the handful of times I used it it was pretty much crap. GPS will be much more useful for me. If I need extra light, I'll carry a real flash.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
I will spare you the details, how i know, who said what but:
(my guarantee) The sensor on the K3ii is THE LATEST AND GREATEST available on the market right now.
It better be the best of the lot. 'Better than D7200' is soooooo passe at the moment It better trounce the FF offerings from other players...

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I thought people were taking the lack of pop-up flash pretty well, I should have waited a little longer before I pulled out the worlds smallest violin.

Pentax I going old school, reminiscent of film days. No build in flash. Stick a nifty fifty (or 35mm) get rid of the kit zoom. Let's get back to basics.
Pentax as it is seen as a niche player. By shipping a body with no built in flash, it is becoming even more 'nicher' if that is a word. Doesnt take a Wall Street bankster type to know smaller the niche, smaller the money made on the body

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(Packing the AF 201FG), Now i know what that right little pocket (within pocket) on my jeans is for....
You've got a big jeans or a big jeans pocket for sure! And a gear-hauling willingness to boot
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QuoteOriginally posted by danny09 Quote

You've got a big jeans or a big jeans pocket for sure! And a gear-hauling willingness to boot
Let's see those calves in action



...I forgot to mention, its the latest sensor from SONY.

(can't wait to see what Ricoh/Pentax engineers do with it)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
...I forgot to mention, its the latest sensor from Sony. (can't wait to see what Ricoh/Pentax engineers do with it)
Tease
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QuoteOriginally posted by aoeu Quote
Tease
here's my "cryptic" post from yesterday:

If Ricoh/Pentax has any intentions to built the class leading K3 Mark II APS-C camera that has no pop-up flash, what could it possibly offer in terms of upgrades over the older K3?


An APS-C camera with the sensor "characteristics" of the K5/ii/s and performance of the K3, IMO it's enough reason to celebrate

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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
Let's see those calves in action



...I forgot to mention, its the latest sensor from SONY.

(can't wait to see what Ricoh/Pentax engineers do with it)

What Nikon did with it?

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