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04-22-2015, 05:07 AM - 1 Like   #601
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I'm pretty excited for these updates to the K3. I care not of on camera flash. I'd super glue mine down if I wasn't worried about damaging the camera

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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
"Improved Anchimoare function" should have been translated as "Improved Anti-moire function"
It seems the Japanese have no word for anti-moire so they phoneticized the English one. How Google translates that back to Anchimoare is a mystery.
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I will have both this and the FF in my bag at all jobs. Cant wait. Both my K-3's has served me well and will get a deserved retirement
No, no, no! They will get bored. Send them to me!!

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No, no, no! They will get bored. Send them to me!!
Not shure how Ricoh would react to that..I can say i lost them maybe?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Frater Quote
Having to carry and use an external flash would be neither a compact nor a robust nor a weather resistant setup. It would just spoil the entire kit.
And people who wanted GPS/Astrotracer previously could have made the exact same comment about the O-GPS1 unit.

Don't get me wrong, it would be cool if they had maintained the built in flash. But since they are using the same K-3 body, maybe it was impractical. Who knows, the next iteration of the APS-C flagship might have both.
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It has a pop-up flash, PentaxIsDooomed™

It doesn't have a pop-up flash, PentaxIsDooomed™
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QuoteOriginally posted by filoxophy Quote
And people who wanted GPS/Astrotracer previously could have made the exact same comment about the O-GPS1 unit.
But the O-GPS1 as part of a kit would have been nicer than loosing the Flash IMO. The O-GPS1 is small, light, looks good, almost sexy when mounted, a nice eye catcher making others curious or jealous, and is much more compact than a bulky external system flash unit.

The built-in GPS, on the other hand, shares most likely the tiny and cheapo design used as mass products in smartphones. Someone with higher sensitivity and reliability demands in the wilderness will need to have a proper unit anyway, e.g. from Garmin.

QuoteOriginally posted by filoxophy Quote
Don't get me wrong, it would be cool if they had maintained the built in flash. But since they are using the same K-3 body, maybe it was impractical. Who knows, the next iteration of the APS-C flagship might have both.
Another good idea comes into my mind. What if Ricoh could mitigate the flash loss issue by inventing a tiny foldeable flash unit, not bigger than the external GPS unit (but extractable to gain height). Maybe with a few super-bright white LEDs, if this helps keeping things tiny?


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I gotta admit that the built-in flash of the K-3, K-5, and others before it have done one thing reliably and consistently for me over the years...make me wish I had brought a real flash along.
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I will have both this and the FF in my bag at all jobs. Cant wait. Both my K-3's has served me well and will get a deserved retirement
Again, lucky you. You get it for free and get paid using it.
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Again, lucky you. You get it for free and get paid using it.
Still have to do much other work to get the wheels to turn But yes, i am in a lucky position. I can't say different
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This message is hidden because Frater is on your boriscleto™ list.


In about half a day I'll want to remove this member just to read his blustering objections to the actual feature set of the new K-5II.

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OK, now you are just trolling.

We get that you don't like the lack of a flash, but saying that the GPS "most likely" is cheap and of low quality is pure, unadulterated baseless speculation. Allow me to supply some speculation of my own that's much more grounded in reality: It's much more likely that they are using the same chips that the O-GPS1 already uses, since a) they wouldn't have to reprogram a whole new control system/Astrotracer, etc, and b) they likely already have large amounts of chip inventory on hand and/or a previously existing business relationship with the chip manufacturer.

Furthermore, the main purposes of the GPS unit, integrated or otherwise, have always been 1) to automatically geotag photos, and 2) to enable the Astrotracer function. Considering that Pentax cameras have no capability for loading maps, charts, etc. and funcitons like waypoints etc. are severely limited and buried deep within the menu system, I'd be shocked if anyone is using the O-GPS1 as a primary navigation tool. Aside from now not having to worry about a separate battery dying, functionally, the independent and integrated GPS units will be no different from each other.Complaining about the functionality of the latter while praising the former is just silly.

QuoteOriginally posted by Frater Quote
But the O-GPS1 as part of a kit would have been nicer than loosing the Flash IMO. The O-GPS1 is small, light, looks good, almost sexy when mounted, a nice eye catcher making others curious or jealous, and is much more compact than a bulky external system flash unit.

The built-in GPS, on the other hand, shares most likely the tiny and cheapo design used as mass products in smartphones. Someone with higher sensitivity and reliability demands in the wilderness will need to have a proper unit anyway, e.g. from Garmin.



Another good idea comes into my mind. What if Ricoh could mitigate the flash loss issue by inventing a tiny foldeable flash unit, not bigger than the external GPS unit (but extractable to gain height). Maybe with a few super-bright white LEDs, if this helps keeping things tiny?
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
It has a pop-up flash, PentaxIsDooomed™
It doesn't have a pop-up flash, PentaxIsDooomed™
No, of course Pentax isn't doomed because of the K-3ii having or not having a pop-up-flash.

It's just that the K-3ii will have another issue giving it a harder time standing against e.g. the Nikon D7200, which wouldn't have been necessary. I assume the tiny flash lights are cheap, so that it's not about costs.

The resolution enhancement thing doesn't set off much, because essentially it is for indoor stills use only.
Outdoors in the wind, too many things move all the time (leaves, twigs, flowers, clouds, water surfaces), which would introduce severe false color artefacts all over the image, as R/G/B channels would be recorded at different times.

Even long distance objects wobble slightly all the time due to atmospheric turbulences. I'm not talking about photography in deserts or canyons, also astro photographers know about this.

But it'll be fine for photographing test targets at home I'm 100% confident that we'll se a lot of crops from the inner area of Siemens stars.

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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
OK, now you are just trolling.
Of course he is, he was before and he stil is.
Won't continue for weeks hopefully. Any mod help? Please?
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