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04-23-2015, 07:41 AM   #766
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Well, at least Pentax solved the problem of the flash sync speed of only being 1/180. It is now 0.
How do you figure? That would only be true if you use the little on board flash.

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Nonsense. Flash sync is still 1/180 whether it is is built in or external.

Sorry Jim, but this is getting really old. You have made your point. Again. And again. And again.

Move on.


I fail to see why it is such a problem for some people that I post here. I am not being harsh, I am not repeating the same post over and over, I mealy state my opinions, just as everybody does and is entitled to, as others post and I reply. I am not telling people to disregard GPS as a good thing, and I don't know why it is hard for some people to find my posts so difficult.


BTW, HSS is available in P-TT HSS external flash and it is, in fact, higher than 1/180,but I am sure you know that.
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We will see and your are correct, the price is fine but a new user would have to understand that if he needs to get a flash, or flu card, that will increase the price by a few hundred $'s so the price is a little misleading. I am sure they will bundle at least a flash somehow..


Adam added a poll so it will be interesting to see the results. Not scientific of course but we went through this same discussion a few weeks back as to how important a FF on board is to the user.


Of course, I think this subject will always polarize one or the other and that is fine. We all have different needs for our camera. GPS is great but I would never use it, maybe someday and it is nice to have it in case I want to use it. I wonder how many people would actually use it, but I would never tell anyone to take it away. Maybe another poll. :P
If I had to pick between the GPS unit and onboard flash, I would go with the GPS. If the expensive module is installed, it not only interferes with the onboard, it also takes up the hotshoe.
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How do you figure? That would only be true if you use the little on board flash.


Yes, others had asked before as to when Pentax will increase the on board sync speed above 1/180. Others had said that Nikon has 1/250 and why cant Pentax.

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I hear ABBA is making a comeback ?
(Sorry ... couldn't resist!)
but their in Sweden,this is Finland..land of Monster Rock(Eurovison many yrs ago--great song!!)
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the flagship may be more the S2 than the 3II
Try telling that to the folks damning the K-S2 for its lack of a add-on grip. Or AA battery support. Or top LCD. Or a wired shutter release. Or a rear IR port. Or dedicated X-mode. Or... Everybody has their one make-or-break feature.

(Clearly, in the one category that really matters - timer countdown LEDs - the K-S1 is the undisputed flagship! )
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Yes, others had asked before as to when Pentax will increase the on board sync speed above 1/180. Others had said that Nikon has 1/250 and why cant Pentax.
I guess it went over your head. How about improving the sync speed, period.
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Apologies to all.


I have not been trying to stir anything up intentionally but in my many years here, I have never seen such posts where so polarizes for and against and some people are trying to make it a war. I don't think of it in that way. As I said, everyone has requirements and to me, they are all valid to each of us. I would never try to tell someone to stop posting and move on, unless they are harsh or unfounded, because this forum is about discussing our opinions.


Once again, apologies.

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Apologies to all.


I have not been trying to stir anything up intentionally but in my many years here, I have never seen such posts where so polarizes for and against and some people are trying to make it a war. I don't think of it in that way. As I said, everyone has requirements and to me, they are all valid to each of us. I would never try to tell someone to stop posting and move on, unless they are harsh or unfounded, because this forum is about discussing our opinions.


Once again, apologies.
I have thought a long time the sync speed needs increased regardless if one uses the popup flash or an external flash.
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but their in Sweden,this is Finland..land of Monster Rock(Eurovison many yrs ago--great song!!)
I figured they wouldn't have to travel very far from their hometown to get to your rock festival !
Nonetheless ... looks like a great venue !
Have fun there.
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I have thought a long time the sync speed needs increased regardless if one uses the popup flash or an external flash.
Don't forget that flash power is a function of flash duration. Faster sync speeds mean less flash power. For an example, my Metz 52 AF-1 flash requires 1/125 second to provide full power. I don't need a faster shutter speed for group portraits in large rooms (about the only thing I need full flash power for) and there is always HSS for action shots at faster shutter speeds.
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Don't forget that flash power is a function of flash duration. Faster sync speeds mean less flash power. For an example, my Metz 52 AF-1 flash requires 1/125 second to provide full power. I don't need a faster shutter speed for group portraits in large rooms (about the only thing I need full flash power for) and there is always HSS for action shots at faster shutter speeds.






I did not want to reply because someone might say that it went over my head again. :P

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I hear ABBA is making a comeback ?
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Haha...I am more of a Soundgarden, Faith No More, Led Zeppelin, Muse, Yeah Yeah Yeah kind of guy, but I can certainly appreciate the 70ies and 80ies classic disco as well: ABBA, Boney M and all the great American Disco groups of the time
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QuoteOriginally posted by JimC1101 Quote
Yes, if Pentax does have a FW upgrade for pixel shifting for the K-S2, it will be interesting to see which camera sells the most. In some ways, the flagship may be more the S2 than the 3II but there are other improvements on the 3II. but not by much.
I will be very surprised if pixel shift is available via firmware update. In any event, with or without PS, the KS2 should sell a lot more than the k3ii. Only because it is a cheaper, lower end model. Selling more units has nothing to do with being a flagship.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RGlasel Quote
Don't forget that flash power is a function of flash duration. Faster sync speeds mean less flash power. For an example, my Metz 52 AF-1 flash requires 1/125 second to provide full power. I don't need a faster shutter speed for group portraits in large rooms (about the only thing I need full flash power for) and there is always HSS for action shots at faster shutter speeds.
Nope, not as long as the shutter speed is slower than the synch speed: the flash itself lasts less than 1/1,000s and the resulting flash lightening power will be the same, be the shutter speed 1/125s, 1/180s or 1/250s.

It's HSS at shutter speeds faster than the synch speed that results in lower flash power since the flash unit emits a series of short strobes of lesser power, each of them lightening a portion of the final image (the portion corresponding to the window between the two shutter curtains).
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