K-3II to be announced soon

kenspo · 04-19-2015, 11:34 AM - **1 Like**

AF will be improved. So no point in that discussion.

Winder · 04-19-2015, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by Black_Wizards

I think you missunderstand the AF issue with K-3. We know the Mackenzie of speed is due to the SDM. The issue from the K-3 is the central AFfocus point which is too big and because of that not précise enough. I wish it was smaller.

I think you are thinking of the K-5 AF points. The center point was the size of a golf ball and grabbed everything but what was in the middle. K-3 is much improved and on par with other systems I have used.

Venom3300 · 04-19-2015, 11:43 AM

Doesn't anyone else find it suspicious that a 18-55 kit lens would be pictured with it rather than the new 18-50 RE lens?

Winder · 04-19-2015, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

AF will be improved. So no point in that discussion.

What? Everything is discussed here. Occasionally we even talk about photography.

Improved? Faster? More Accurate? Better tracking?

For years Pentax AF-C struggled to keep up with sleeping cats. Millions of burry cat pictures have been posted here.

Any improvements to color or white balance. Is Ricoh continuing to develop their multi-area white balance?

---------- Post added 04-19-15 at 01:47 PM ----------

Originally posted by Venom3300

Doesn't anyone else find it suspicious that a 18-55 kit lens would be pictured with it rather than the new 18-50 RE lens?

Pentax/Ricoh marketing probably stole the picture from a micro-stock site and then did a bad Photoshop job on it. Wouldn't be the first time.

kenspo · 04-19-2015, 11:47 AM - **1 Like**

Improved on all parts. Will notice most on AF-C, especially in low light.

Stavri · 04-19-2015, 11:55 AM

It seems Ricoh has stepped up its game, this is not a small upgrade ala K5....K5ii....K5iis

Wait till Tuesday to find out. then new thread will start with the title: (this is how).. PENTAX(RICOH) GOT ITS GROOVE BACK....

kenspo · 04-19-2015, 12:01 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Stavri

It seems Ricoh has stepped up its game

I have been saying this for a long time

Stavri · 04-19-2015, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

I have been saying this for a long time

aoeu · 04-19-2015, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

I'm still surprised that nobody has dared to offer a 25x25 or 30x30 camera sensor; I've no idea of resulting crop factors & don't really care. Just use a larger chunk of the lens' best zones and we'll manage our crop ratios later, thanks.

The mirror. The mirror box. The Horror!

Ricoh/Pentax has made cameras as small as possible. Buy a 645D. Crop as you wish.

**jatrax** · 04-19-2015, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Black_Wizards

I think you missunderstand the AF issue with K-3. We know the lack of speed is due to the SDM. The issue from the K-3 is the central AFfocus point which is too big and because of that not précise enough. I wish it was smaller.

The too large center point was certainly true on the k-5. But on the k-3 that is just not the case. This morning I was out shooting and got some nice shots of a Great Blue Heron. Center point focus on it's head. Which in the frame was not much larger than the little red square that lights up. Not the "( )", the little red square. Nice contrasty trees behind it and I really expected it to be hard to nail. But nope, I've got 20 plus frames of solid lock on the head. Some are sharp, some are soft but that was me moving or the bird moving, the focus point is bang on.

rawr · 04-19-2015, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

But on the k-3 that is just not the case.

Agreed. The high density of the AF sensors in the centre part of the K-3's AF system is apparent in the image below, and in use.
No 'dinner plate' sized central AF point here.

asahi man · 04-19-2015, 03:11 PM - **1 Like**

so,now we have one of the best AF Systems in Lowlight and with highspeed lenses,with EVERY AF Point.
We have EVERY AF Point for good use till -3EV!!!!
Maybe this Thursday we will see what the new era will bring in combination with this great AF of the K-3.
What we get is new speed,new logic,new turbospeed lenses and new ideas.
Best regards

**robbiec** · 04-19-2015, 03:30 PM

Is it Tuesday or Thursday for the announcement?

Winder · 04-19-2015, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by asahi man

so,now we have one of the best AF Systems in Lowlight and with highspeed lenses,with EVERY AF Point.
We have EVERY AF Point for good use till -3EV!!!!
Maybe this Thursday we will see what the new era will bring in combination with this great AF of the K-3.
What we get is new speed,new logic,new turbospeed lenses and new ideas.
Best regards

So your saying all the AF points will be F/2.8?

IS there a lens being released with the new K-3II. Lens AF speed is still the weakest link. No reason to improve the K-3 AF unless you have some glass that is as fast as the camera.

deepbluish · 04-19-2015, 03:34 PM

So,

Many, many f2.8 rated cross type AF points, dispersed all over the viewfinder, able to track a black cat in a coal mine.

Great.

My guess is that tthis AF system was actually developed for the coming FF and that they are putting it in the new K3 to be able to sort out possible teething pains by the time FF gets released.

04-19-2015, 12:09 PM	#338
Stavri Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: at a Bean & Leaf Photos: Albums Posts: 1,832	Originally posted by kenspo I have been saying this for a long time Last edited by Stavri; 04-19-2015 at 12:23 PM.

04-19-2015, 02:46 PM	#341
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by jatrax But on the k-3 that is just not the case. Agreed. The high density of the AF sensors in the centre part of the K-3's AF system is apparent in the image below, and in use. No 'dinner plate' sized central AF point here. Last edited by rawr; 04-19-2015 at 02:54 PM.

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04-19-2015, 11:34 AM - 1 Like	#331
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	AF will be improved. So no point in that discussion.

04-19-2015, 11:40 AM	#332
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Black_Wizards I think you missunderstand the AF issue with K-3. We know the Mackenzie of speed is due to the SDM. The issue from the K-3 is the central AFfocus point which is too big and because of that not précise enough. I wish it was smaller. I think you are thinking of the K-5 AF points. The center point was the size of a golf ball and grabbed everything but what was in the middle. K-3 is much improved and on par with other systems I have used.

04-19-2015, 11:43 AM	#333
Venom3300 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 714	Doesn't anyone else find it suspicious that a 18-55 kit lens would be pictured with it rather than the new 18-50 RE lens?

04-19-2015, 11:45 AM	#334
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by kenspo AF will be improved. So no point in that discussion. What? Everything is discussed here. Occasionally we even talk about photography. Improved? Faster? More Accurate? Better tracking? For years Pentax AF-C struggled to keep up with sleeping cats. Millions of burry cat pictures have been posted here. Any improvements to color or white balance. Is Ricoh continuing to develop their multi-area white balance? ---------- Post added 04-19-15 at 01:47 PM ---------- Originally posted by Venom3300 Doesn't anyone else find it suspicious that a 18-55 kit lens would be pictured with it rather than the new 18-50 RE lens? Pentax/Ricoh marketing probably stole the picture from a micro-stock site and then did a bad Photoshop job on it. Wouldn't be the first time.

04-19-2015, 11:47 AM - 1 Like	#335
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Improved on all parts. Will notice most on AF-C, especially in low light.

04-19-2015, 11:55 AM	#336
Stavri Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: at a Bean & Leaf Photos: Albums Posts: 1,832	It seems Ricoh has stepped up its game, this is not a small upgrade ala K5....K5ii....K5iis Wait till Tuesday to find out. then new thread will start with the title: (this is how).. PENTAX(RICOH) GOT ITS GROOVE BACK....

04-19-2015, 12:01 PM - 2 Likes	#337
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Stavri It seems Ricoh has stepped up its game I have been saying this for a long time

04-19-2015, 12:13 PM	#339
aoeu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 496	Originally posted by jimr-pdx I'm still surprised that nobody has dared to offer a 25x25 or 30x30 camera sensor; I've no idea of resulting crop factors & don't really care. Just use a larger chunk of the lens' best zones and we'll manage our crop ratios later, thanks. The mirror. The mirror box. The Horror! Ricoh/Pentax has made cameras as small as possible. Buy a 645D. Crop as you wish.

04-19-2015, 02:40 PM	#340
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Black_Wizards I think you missunderstand the AF issue with K-3. We know the lack of speed is due to the SDM. The issue from the K-3 is the central AFfocus point which is too big and because of that not précise enough. I wish it was smaller. The too large center point was certainly true on the k-5. But on the k-3 that is just not the case. This morning I was out shooting and got some nice shots of a Great Blue Heron. Center point focus on it's head. Which in the frame was not much larger than the little red square that lights up. Not the "( )", the little red square. Nice contrasty trees behind it and I really expected it to be hard to nail. But nope, I've got 20 plus frames of solid lock on the head. Some are sharp, some are soft but that was me moving or the bird moving, the focus point is bang on.

04-19-2015, 03:11 PM - 1 Like	#342
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	so,now we have one of the best AF Systems in Lowlight and with highspeed lenses,with EVERY AF Point. We have EVERY AF Point for good use till -3EV!!!! Maybe this Thursday we will see what the new era will bring in combination with this great AF of the K-3. What we get is new speed,new logic,new turbospeed lenses and new ideas. Best regards

04-19-2015, 03:30 PM	#343
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Is it Tuesday or Thursday for the announcement?

04-19-2015, 03:32 PM	#344
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by asahi man so,now we have one of the best AF Systems in Lowlight and with highspeed lenses,with EVERY AF Point. We have EVERY AF Point for good use till -3EV!!!! Maybe this Thursday we will see what the new era will bring in combination with this great AF of the K-3. What we get is new speed,new logic,new turbospeed lenses and new ideas. Best regards So your saying all the AF points will be F/2.8? IS there a lens being released with the new K-3II. Lens AF speed is still the weakest link. No reason to improve the K-3 AF unless you have some glass that is as fast as the camera.

04-19-2015, 03:34 PM	#345
deepbluish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 130	So, Many, many f2.8 rated cross type AF points, dispersed all over the viewfinder, able to track a black cat in a coal mine. Great. My guess is that tthis AF system was actually developed for the coming FF and that they are putting it in the new K3 to be able to sort out possible teething pains by the time FF gets released.