Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Closed Thread
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
04-21-2015, 02:32 PM   #151
Site Supporter
Rorschach's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kuusamo, Finland
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 598
QuoteOriginally posted by jonby Quote
Well, I wasn't expecting a huge upgrade or changes in this version so to be honest I'm pleasantly surprised. The pixel-shifting thing is a pretty substantial new feature, as is the GPS, and the AF/sensor upgrades could be pretty significant - we don't know yet. For me, the pixel-shifting is probably the most significant thing if it works well. We'll have to wait and see how it works, but personally I'm hoping it will output 24MP raw files with improvements to noise, colour detail and artifacting, rather than bloated high pixel-count images (or at least have this as an option).

I don't care in the slightest about wi-fi. Slightly bothered about the flash but not much - maybe it will be worth losing it for the GPS. I'm a bit ignorant on GPS - can anyone tell me what the main benefits are?

My other slight disappointment is that I thought that with the changes to the viewfinder hump, they may be trialing a new viewfinder info system in advance of FF, which may use something like this to show the APS-C frame and possibly other crop options. Not going to cry about it though. Overall, a nice upgrade which will keep Pentax in the public eye until the FF release.

Yeah, I am definitely still intrigued by this camera. Though the left out wifi sounds strange. Easier to understand no flipscreen as that would maybe have required substantial changes on the body itself...this is a K3 II after all, not K2.

04-21-2015, 02:34 PM - 1 Like   #152
Site Supporter
kenspo's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Oslo
Posts: 1,879
I am not allowed to say so much yet, but it is a NEW sensor all coming cameras.
04-21-2015, 02:36 PM   #153
Veteran Member
crewl1's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 9,795
QuoteOriginally posted by kenspo Quote
I am not allowed to say so much yet, but it is a NEW sensor all coming cameras.
Ahhhh why!? If they get me back the IQ of my K-5 with K-3 performance I am going to have to consider an upgrade. Grrrrrrrrrr!
04-21-2015, 02:38 PM   #154
Pentaxian
D1N0's Avatar

Join Date: May 2012
Location: ---
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,606
so also a new sensor in the FF not the one in the D610 or the A7r

04-21-2015, 02:38 PM   #155
Pentaxian
JinDesu's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New York City
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 5,624
I'm grumpy that I got the k-3 instead of the k-3IIs.
04-21-2015, 02:39 PM - 1 Like   #156
Pentaxian
mattb123's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Colorado High Country
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 7,031
So I guess there may still be a market for my Flu Card then...
04-21-2015, 02:50 PM   #157
Site Supporter
kenspo's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Oslo
Posts: 1,879
QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
so also a new sensor in the FF not the one in the D610 or the A7r
04-21-2015, 02:51 PM - 1 Like   #158
Veteran Member




Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cracow
Posts: 457
QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
The sensor in the K-3 was already quite old. It was in the Nex-7 and A77 and probably some Nikons before it came in the K-3.
Nope. The NEX-7 and A77 used the oldest IMX096. Nikon were using Renesas sensor for the D3200 and Toshiba for the D7100 and D5200, then switched back to Sony with the D5300 and D5500 using the IMX193, which is probably the same sensor that Ricoh put in the K-3. And now there is a rumor that the D7200 uses the newest IMX271, but I'm not so sure about it...

04-21-2015, 02:57 PM   #159
Senior Member
Stickl's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oulu
Posts: 262
I will buy this if the sensor is in same level with K-5 II in terms of noise and dynamic range. That's all I need. Of course the AF has to be at least in the samel level than it is in K-3.
04-21-2015, 03:04 PM   #160
Pentaxian
D1N0's Avatar

Join Date: May 2012
Location: ---
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,606
QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
Nope. The NEX-7 and A77 used the oldest IMX096. Nikon were using Renesas sensor for the D3200 and Toshiba for the D7100 and D5200, then switched back to Sony with the D5300 and D5500 using the IMX193, which is probably the same sensor that Ricoh put in the K-3. And now there is a rumor that the D7200 uses the newest IMX271, but I'm not so sure about it...
That maybe right, but I didn't see much difference between them. according to this site (translate) the IMX271 is also in the a6000: Google Translate
04-21-2015, 03:09 PM   #161
Veteran Member




Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cracow
Posts: 457
QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
That maybe right, but I didn't see much difference between them.
There is at least one - IMX096 could be read at 12fps, and the newer IMX193 does just 8.7fps.
QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
according to this site (translate) the IMX271 is also in the a6000:
Wrong. It's the IMX210 with on chip phase detection.
https://twitter.com/cwimagesensors/status/544587971416961025
04-21-2015, 03:25 PM   #162
Veteran Member
bobell69's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Courtenay BC
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 421
QuoteOriginally posted by CRPhoto Quote
To turn it off?
I wonder what the power drain will be with the internal gps unit.

---------- Post added 04-21-2015 at 03:28 PM ----------

QuoteOriginally posted by kenspo Quote
I am not allowed to say so much yet, but it is a NEW sensor all coming cameras.
Sounds to me that this new camera is going to be a much greater improvement over the K3, much more so than the K5II was over the K5. Looking forward to seeing the details from Ricoh. I'm assuming with the flash gone that there will be some added features in the firmware related to external flashes.
04-21-2015, 03:41 PM   #163
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: GMT +10
Photos: Albums
Posts: 10,576
K-5 to K-5 II, K-3 to K-3 II.
Evolutionary changes.

Pity about lack of pop-up flash. It's useful sometimes, for a variety of purposes. At least, I guess, for flash newbies the new Pentax AF201FG flash is available cheap. Maybe they will include it in some K-3 II bundles.

In regards to 'v II model' competitors, FWIW I note that the Canon 7D II also lacks built-in WiFi and NFC, but does include GPS. Nikon D7200 has WiFi and NFC, but lacks GPS. Sony A77 II has WiFi and NFC, but also lacks GPS. Interestingly, Pentax is aligning with Canon here.

However, all the other 'v II' models cited do retain a built-in flash, so Pentax is going out on a limb with that.
04-21-2015, 03:41 PM   #164
Site Supporter
virusn3t's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 582
QuoteOriginally posted by goubejp Quote
And why would Sony sign an exclusivity with Nikon ? Nikon have tried to switch supplier with Toshiba for the D7100, it was a miss, now they ask Sony, can we buy your sensors again ? They are not in a strong position to ask an exclusivity from Sony
Because of money? Exclusive contract even for a short period time cost big money, avoid your competition to get something maybe give you an edge on new camera buyers... just my opinion.
04-21-2015, 04:13 PM   #165
New Member




Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 18
I would have thought most Pentaxians would be holding off any top end purchases for the Full Frame release?
Closed Thread

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
4.5 stops of sr, af, announcement, built-in, camera, features, flash, gps, ii, image, improvement, k-3, k-s2, morning, night, pentax, pentax news, pentax rumors, pixel, pm, post, questions, rugged teenage girls, specs, splash, team, tuesday, video
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
K-3II to be announced soon JimC1101 Pentax News and Rumors 802 05-01-2015 02:51 PM
Nikon DF: specs and lots of pics Adam Non-Pentax Cameras: Canon, Nikon, etc. 33 11-16-2013 11:53 AM
K-3 Specs leaked - 24MP APS-C LFLee Pentax News and Rumors 154 10-07-2013 02:58 AM
K-500 Specs per Pentax USA Docrwm Pentax K-30 & K-50 12 07-19-2013 09:16 PM
Your existing computer specs and/or dream specs Medium FormatPro General Talk 21 09-07-2012 01:08 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:32 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top