Specs of K-3II

cxdoo · 04-22-2015, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by jaad75

The Advanced SR detects panning - that's the only thing we didn't know so far...

Now that's a great feature. God knows how many shots I ruined by forgetting to switch off SR when panning.

Clavius · 04-22-2015, 12:55 AM

So... leaving the popup flash out leaves some extra room in the VF hump. What do you guys think it's filled with? The astrotracer electronics? GPS? Or will the viewfinder have some improvements?

Pictora · 04-22-2015, 12:56 AM

Pentax K-3 II Full Specs, Image, to be Announced April 23th

Pentax K-3 II Full Specs, Image, to be Announced April 23th | Camera News at Cameraegg

bibz · 04-22-2015, 12:58 AM - **2 Likes**

That stupid flash I sometimes accidently raise, good riddance! Astrotracer functionality, Pixelshift Superresolution welcome aboard! I think this is a great upgrade. A real deal field camera packed with features. If you can't live without popup flash/wifi, get a ks2. It's the more social media camera. This is more utilitarian. There are a million choices to make when releasing a product, every last one of us would spec our own camera differently. Thats a market of one.

But man this isn't even turbo intercooled, how can they claim its a sports camera?! PFFFT

tennjed · 04-22-2015, 01:02 AM

My greatest hope?....Everything works as it should; no significant role for Precision in this new model roll-out.

Clavius · 04-22-2015, 01:03 AM

LOL! According to the cameraegg specs it's "dust and water proof".

Ayoh · 04-22-2015, 01:04 AM

No flash is stupid. No wifi after getting rid of the flash to provide room for such features as gps and wifi is more stupid though. Especially when your entry level model ks2 has wifi and nfc built in.

Caat · 04-22-2015, 01:05 AM

I think the loss of the on board flash is a bad idea for little to no gain. The flash is useful for fill flash if nothing else - and when diffused with some kitchen paper actually works remarkably well. I've also used it a lot in the past for macro shots using this method.

Adding GPS and not WiFi seems a little shortsighted. I think most users would find WiFi more useful than GPS - and Pentax could continue to market the Astrotracer unit to K-3II owners that need it.

Other than these two things it seems like a decent II revision. However, it reinforces my desire to wait to see what the FF brings.

Pictora · 04-22-2015, 01:11 AM

With the added overhead of a builtin GPS and pixel shift tech for even higher resolution image than K3 and battery remain being the same big question is how many shots the New K3 II will endure before recharging?

**grahamcoad** · 04-22-2015, 01:13 AM

Personally I think tilt screens are a clear potential weakness in an otherwise rugged camera body, and if you use it a lot will be the first annoying expensive repair just AFTER Warranty Expires.

Flip screens, built in Wi-Fi, NFC etc....these are all gimmicks copied from cheap compact cameras for adding to lower level DSLR cameras, not top end serious models.

My K-3 already has more features than I need. I would have liked a less expensive DOWNGRADE which kept the good sensor and did away with video, HDR and all the frippery... but that's just me.

Black_Wizards · 04-22-2015, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by Ayoh

No flash is stupid. No wifi after getting rid of the flash to provide room for such features as gps and wifi is more stupid though. Especially when your entry level model ks2 has wifi and nfc built in.

I really don't understand why wifi is SO important for all of you?! If it sis SO important, get a FLU or buy a camera with WiFI... But what's the point?!

Caat · 04-22-2015, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by grahamcoad

Personally I think tilt screens are a clear potential weakness in an otherwise rugged camera body, and if you use it a lot will be the first annoying expensive repair just AFTER Warranty Expires.

Flip screens, built in Wi-Fi, NFC etc....these are all gimmicks copied from cheap compact cameras for adding to lower level DSLR cameras, not top end serious models.

My K-3 already has more features than I need. I would have liked a less expensive DOWNGRADE which kept the good sensor and did away with video, HDR and all the frippery... but that's just me.

So high end cameras should have less flexibility than lower priced ones?

To be honest it is already the case that lower-end cameras - especially 4/3rds and APS-C based ones - are as capable in terms of image quality than their higher end equivalents. What tends to separate them is things like elements of the AF systems, buffer depth etc. So, by not adding things like WiFi etc you aren't helping sell your higher end equipment. WiFi can be genuinely useful for image transfer, tethering, remote liveview etc. All of which have professional applications.

JimC1101 · 04-22-2015, 01:28 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pictora

With the added overhead of a builtin GPS and pixel shift tech for even higher resolution image than K3 and battery remain being the same big question is how many shots the New K3 II will endure before recharging?

I think that is why they had to drop the flash. One shot and your battery would be depleted.

**RobA_Oz** · 04-22-2015, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by markku55

I have only two hands and I use tripod very seldom

I've mentioned it before, but with a neck strap you can keep your camera steadier at waist level than up at your eye, and your hands are then free to compose, focus and shoot using your smartphone, while resting on your camera to help steady it. I have now done this quite a few times, and the results are often better than trying to compose at eye level – certainly, the perspective is slightly different, as any waist-level shooter will tell you.

You can also mount your camera on a small stand at ground level for macros, and stand up straight once you've adjusted your composition, to focus and shoot. That's something you can't do with a flippy or tilt screen.

Mind you, neither are much help if you're in bright sunshine, but at least you can more easily shield your phone than an LCD screen. The only real drawback is not being able to review RAW shots off-camera, as the wifi speed isn't really up to it.

Caat · 04-22-2015, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by Black_Wizards

I really don't understand why wifi is SO important for all of you?! If it sis SO important, get a FLU or buy a camera with WiFI... But what's the point?!

Convenience largely. If users of the KS-2 don't have to buy a WiFi SD card why should users of the K-3II? The K-3 and it's ilk aren't *that* much more of a 'pro' camera than the KS-2, it's not like you're getting Nikon or Canon Pro AF performance or a FF sensor over the KS-2. I think many people would do as well with the KS-2 as they would with the K-3II. So, why give people who are um-ing and ah-ring over the the choice the reason not to go for the higher-end model?

It's also the case that the K-3II has two SD card slots. If I put a Flucard in one I am more limited in terms of write speed if I want to send RAW files to one card and Jpegs to the other for example - as compared to the Sandisk Extreme Pros I have.

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04-22-2015, 12:55 AM	#226
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by jaad75 The Advanced SR detects panning - that's the only thing we didn't know so far... Now that's a great feature. God knows how many shots I ruined by forgetting to switch off SR when panning.

04-22-2015, 12:55 AM	#227
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	So... leaving the popup flash out leaves some extra room in the VF hump. What do you guys think it's filled with? The astrotracer electronics? GPS? Or will the viewfinder have some improvements?

04-22-2015, 12:56 AM	#228
Pictora Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 88	Pentax K-3 II Full Specs, Image, to be Announced April 23th Pentax K-3 II Full Specs, Image, to be Announced April 23th \| Camera News at Cameraegg

04-22-2015, 12:58 AM - 2 Likes	#229
bibz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newcastle, AU! Posts: 276	That stupid flash I sometimes accidently raise, good riddance! Astrotracer functionality, Pixelshift Superresolution welcome aboard! I think this is a great upgrade. A real deal field camera packed with features. If you can't live without popup flash/wifi, get a ks2. It's the more social media camera. This is more utilitarian. There are a million choices to make when releasing a product, every last one of us would spec our own camera differently. Thats a market of one. But man this isn't even turbo intercooled, how can they claim its a sports camera?! PFFFT

04-22-2015, 01:02 AM	#230
tennjed Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SE Indiana. Near Cincinnati Photos: Albums Posts: 109	My greatest hope?....Everything works as it should; no significant role for Precision in this new model roll-out.

04-22-2015, 01:03 AM	#231
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	LOL! According to the cameraegg specs it's "dust and water proof".

04-22-2015, 01:04 AM	#232
Ayoh Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 341	No flash is stupid. No wifi after getting rid of the flash to provide room for such features as gps and wifi is more stupid though. Especially when your entry level model ks2 has wifi and nfc built in.

04-22-2015, 01:05 AM	#233
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	I think the loss of the on board flash is a bad idea for little to no gain. The flash is useful for fill flash if nothing else - and when diffused with some kitchen paper actually works remarkably well. I've also used it a lot in the past for macro shots using this method. Adding GPS and not WiFi seems a little shortsighted. I think most users would find WiFi more useful than GPS - and Pentax could continue to market the Astrotracer unit to K-3II owners that need it. Other than these two things it seems like a decent II revision. However, it reinforces my desire to wait to see what the FF brings.

04-22-2015, 01:11 AM	#234
Pictora Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 88	With the added overhead of a builtin GPS and pixel shift tech for even higher resolution image than K3 and battery remain being the same big question is how many shots the New K3 II will endure before recharging?

04-22-2015, 01:13 AM	#235
grahamcoad Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: West Cornwall Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 128	Personally I think tilt screens are a clear potential weakness in an otherwise rugged camera body, and if you use it a lot will be the first annoying expensive repair just AFTER Warranty Expires. Flip screens, built in Wi-Fi, NFC etc....these are all gimmicks copied from cheap compact cameras for adding to lower level DSLR cameras, not top end serious models. My K-3 already has more features than I need. I would have liked a less expensive DOWNGRADE which kept the good sensor and did away with video, HDR and all the frippery... but that's just me.

04-22-2015, 01:17 AM	#236
Black_Wizards Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 118	Originally posted by Ayoh No flash is stupid. No wifi after getting rid of the flash to provide room for such features as gps and wifi is more stupid though. Especially when your entry level model ks2 has wifi and nfc built in. I really don't understand why wifi is SO important for all of you?! If it sis SO important, get a FLU or buy a camera with WiFI... But what's the point?!

04-22-2015, 01:26 AM	#237
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by grahamcoad Personally I think tilt screens are a clear potential weakness in an otherwise rugged camera body, and if you use it a lot will be the first annoying expensive repair just AFTER Warranty Expires. Flip screens, built in Wi-Fi, NFC etc....these are all gimmicks copied from cheap compact cameras for adding to lower level DSLR cameras, not top end serious models. My K-3 already has more features than I need. I would have liked a less expensive DOWNGRADE which kept the good sensor and did away with video, HDR and all the frippery... but that's just me. So high end cameras should have less flexibility than lower priced ones? To be honest it is already the case that lower-end cameras - especially 4/3rds and APS-C based ones - are as capable in terms of image quality than their higher end equivalents. What tends to separate them is things like elements of the AF systems, buffer depth etc. So, by not adding things like WiFi etc you aren't helping sell your higher end equipment. WiFi can be genuinely useful for image transfer, tethering, remote liveview etc. All of which have professional applications.

04-22-2015, 01:28 AM - 1 Like	#238
JimC1101 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fremont, Ca Photos: Albums Posts: 395	Originally posted by Pictora With the added overhead of a builtin GPS and pixel shift tech for even higher resolution image than K3 and battery remain being the same big question is how many shots the New K3 II will endure before recharging? I think that is why they had to drop the flash. One shot and your battery would be depleted.

04-22-2015, 01:29 AM	#239
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,200	Originally posted by markku55 I have only two hands and I use tripod very seldom I've mentioned it before, but with a neck strap you can keep your camera steadier at waist level than up at your eye, and your hands are then free to compose, focus and shoot using your smartphone, while resting on your camera to help steady it. I have now done this quite a few times, and the results are often better than trying to compose at eye level – certainly, the perspective is slightly different, as any waist-level shooter will tell you. You can also mount your camera on a small stand at ground level for macros, and stand up straight once you've adjusted your composition, to focus and shoot. That's something you can't do with a flippy or tilt screen. Mind you, neither are much help if you're in bright sunshine, but at least you can more easily shield your phone than an LCD screen. The only real drawback is not being able to review RAW shots off-camera, as the wifi speed isn't really up to it.

04-22-2015, 01:30 AM	#240
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Black_Wizards I really don't understand why wifi is SO important for all of you?! If it sis SO important, get a FLU or buy a camera with WiFI... But what's the point?! Convenience largely. If users of the KS-2 don't have to buy a WiFi SD card why should users of the K-3II? The K-3 and it's ilk aren't that much more of a 'pro' camera than the KS-2, it's not like you're getting Nikon or Canon Pro AF performance or a FF sensor over the KS-2. I think many people would do as well with the KS-2 as they would with the K-3II. So, why give people who are um-ing and ah-ring over the the choice the reason not to go for the higher-end model? It's also the case that the K-3II has two SD card slots. If I put a Flucard in one I am more limited in terms of write speed if I want to send RAW files to one card and Jpegs to the other for example - as compared to the Sandisk Extreme Pros I have.