Specs of K-3II

reh321 · 04-23-2015, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

I think the dumping of the flash will prove to be a non issue. There will be bundles with the small or medium flash models, which will increase stock rotation and get the prices down through scale economies, so flash won't be lacking.

Part of the problem is that Pentax doesn't have a truly small flash. When I got my AF-200FG, I was surprised at its size and weight. They need a small/light flash, one that would even be comfortable on a Q camera.

D1N0 · 04-23-2015, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Part of the problem is that Pentax doesn't have a truly small flash. When I got my AF-200FG, I was surprised at its size and weight. They need a small/light flash, one that would even be comfortable on a Q camera.

No worries There's this Metz mecablitz 26 AF-1 digital Flash for Pentax MZ 2631796P B&H

kadajawi · 04-23-2015, 07:40 AM

I use the flash maybe once every 500-2000 photos. Buying a flash for that...? When I do want to take one with I am glad to have it, but... hm. And then I have to mount it. Bring it along all the time.

Shanti · 04-23-2015, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I shouldn't have laughed at this, but I did.

yes maybe bad taste

,but used only as a descriptive adjective in this case about the 'Love' some people have for this card

**monochrome** · 04-23-2015, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Part of the problem is that Pentax doesn't have a truly small flash. When I got my AF-200FG, I was surprised at its size and weight. They need a small/light flash, one that would even be comfortable on a Q camera.

AF201FG. We can 'gram gripe' (akin to pixel peeping) about this or that small external flash, but Pentax DOES have one.

4.97 ounces w/o 2x AAA batteries. If I'm out for a walk and I need fill flash I can pull this out of my other pocket. If I'm carrying a bag I'll carry 3 Limiteds (FA or DA depending) and a 360FGZ.

Plus, a 201FG is perfect for a K-01 and useable on a Q.

I just can't make myself get all worked up about no onboard flash.

jaad75 · 04-23-2015, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

No worries There's this Metz mecablitz 26 AF-1 digital Flash for Pentax MZ 2631796P B&H

It works in a slave mode, does it have a master/controller mode?

reh321 · 04-23-2015, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

No worries There's this Metz mecablitz 26 AF-1 digital Flash for Pentax MZ 2631796P B&H

I was interested to find the following sentence in the description of that flash:"In addition to TTL functionality, the 26 AF-1 also features a slave function that allows it to be triggered wirelessly from the camera or another flash." Their sales people seem to have imaged something the Pentax engineers haven't - putting wireless master into the camera. It would be especially nice if they could stuff master capability into a similar flash.

**jpzk** · 04-23-2015, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by jaad75

It works in a slave mode, does it have a master/controller mode?

Good question and I would also like to know ...

JP

**THoog** · 04-23-2015, 08:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

AF201FG. We can 'gram gripe' (akin to pixel peeping) about this or that small external flash, but Pentax DOES have one.

4.97 ounces w/o 2x AAA batteries. If I'm out for a walk and I need fill flash I can pull this out of my other pocket. If I'm carrying a bag I'll carry 3 Limiteds (FA or DA depending) and a 360FGZ.

Plus, a 201FG is perfect for a K-01 and useable on a Q.

I've had a hard time finding any pictures of the 201FG actually mounted on a K/Q body. If the specs are to be trusted, it's actually smaller than the AF-160 that I carried for years as a "pocket flash" with my MF film bodies. The 201FG is probably the flash I wanted for my K-01 kit a couple years ago. Curse you, GBA!

Originally posted by monochrome

I just can't make myself get all worked up about no onboard flash.

You're not trying hard enough!

Parallax · 04-23-2015, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by THoog

You're not trying hard enough!

johnmflores · 04-23-2015, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by THoog

I've had a hard time finding any pictures of the 201FG actually mounted on a K/Q body. If the specs are to be trusted, it's actually smaller than the AF-160 that I carried for years as a "pocket flash" with my MF film bodies. The 201FG is probably the flash I wanted for my K-01 kit a couple years ago. Curse you, GBA!

You're not trying hard enough!

Judging by the photos, it is smaller than the AF200FG which takes 4AAs and is surprisingly bulky (think FA31). But even more importantly, the tilt head will allow you to store it flattish, slipping it into a slash pocket in a bag instead of taking up a lens spot.

**monochrome** · 04-23-2015, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Judging by the photos, it is smaller than the AF200FG which takes 4AAs and is surprisingly bulky (think FA31). But even more importantly, the tilt head will allow you to store it flattish, slipping it into a slash pocket in a bag instead of taking up a lens spot.

AF201FG - $146
2.6'' × 2.9'' × 1.2'' H/W/D
Weight: Approx. 141 g (5.0 oz.) without batteries
2xAAA batteries

AF200FG - $80
2.7 x 3.3 x 3.7" H/W/D
Weight: 6.8 oz. without batteries
4x AA batteries

Including batteries the 200FG will be significantly heavier than the 201FG

Zygonyx · 04-23-2015, 09:19 AM

Yes but as written 201 only takes AAA batteries, and only 2 of them ; whereas 200 takes 4 AA : that makes à huge difference in terms of durability...

Krizu · 04-23-2015, 09:20 AM

I honestly couldn't care less about the removed flash, as I am used to shoot with radio triggers anyway.
What I am really missing from the semi-pro bodies is a professional tethering solution, I hope the upcoming FF will get this.

mikeSF · 04-23-2015, 09:32 AM

just saw the release. Hmm, now that is an unexpected upgrade to the K3 and something I'd be interesting in purchasing.

Since i shoot 645, I was thinking the FF would be lost on me but that I might keep an APS-C just for long tele and astro shooting...what a pleasant surprise that this may be a reasonable solution...and the GPS built in is a nice touch!

so, maybe i'm one of the 30 people interested, lol.

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04-23-2015, 07:31 AM	#481
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by derekkite I think the dumping of the flash will prove to be a non issue. There will be bundles with the small or medium flash models, which will increase stock rotation and get the prices down through scale economies, so flash won't be lacking. Part of the problem is that Pentax doesn't have a truly small flash. When I got my AF-200FG, I was surprised at its size and weight. They need a small/light flash, one that would even be comfortable on a Q camera.

04-23-2015, 07:36 AM	#482
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by reh321 Part of the problem is that Pentax doesn't have a truly small flash. When I got my AF-200FG, I was surprised at its size and weight. They need a small/light flash, one that would even be comfortable on a Q camera. No worries There's this Metz mecablitz 26 AF-1 digital Flash for Pentax MZ 2631796P B&H

04-23-2015, 07:40 AM	#483
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	I use the flash maybe once every 500-2000 photos. Buying a flash for that...? When I do want to take one with I am glad to have it, but... hm. And then I have to mount it. Bring it along all the time.

04-23-2015, 07:43 AM	#484
Shanti Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by rawr I shouldn't have laughed at this, but I did. yes maybe bad taste ,but used only as a descriptive adjective in this case about the 'Love' some people have for this card

04-23-2015, 07:44 AM	#485
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by reh321 Part of the problem is that Pentax doesn't have a truly small flash. When I got my AF-200FG, I was surprised at its size and weight. They need a small/light flash, one that would even be comfortable on a Q camera. AF201FG. We can 'gram gripe' (akin to pixel peeping) about this or that small external flash, but Pentax DOES have one. 4.97 ounces w/o 2x AAA batteries. If I'm out for a walk and I need fill flash I can pull this out of my other pocket. If I'm carrying a bag I'll carry 3 Limiteds (FA or DA depending) and a 360FGZ. Plus, a 201FG is perfect for a K-01 and useable on a Q. I just can't make myself get all worked up about no onboard flash.

04-23-2015, 07:45 AM	#486
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by D1N0 No worries There's this Metz mecablitz 26 AF-1 digital Flash for Pentax MZ 2631796P B&H It works in a slave mode, does it have a master/controller mode?

04-23-2015, 07:50 AM	#487
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by D1N0 No worries There's this Metz mecablitz 26 AF-1 digital Flash for Pentax MZ 2631796P B&H I was interested to find the following sentence in the description of that flash:"In addition to TTL functionality, the 26 AF-1 also features a slave function that allows it to be triggered wirelessly from the camera or another flash." Their sales people seem to have imaged something the Pentax engineers haven't - putting wireless master into the camera. It would be especially nice if they could stuff master capability into a similar flash.

04-23-2015, 08:22 AM	#488
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by jaad75 It works in a slave mode, does it have a master/controller mode? Good question and I would also like to know ... JP

04-23-2015, 08:32 AM - 1 Like	#489
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by monochrome AF201FG. We can 'gram gripe' (akin to pixel peeping) about this or that small external flash, but Pentax DOES have one. 4.97 ounces w/o 2x AAA batteries. If I'm out for a walk and I need fill flash I can pull this out of my other pocket. If I'm carrying a bag I'll carry 3 Limiteds (FA or DA depending) and a 360FGZ. Plus, a 201FG is perfect for a K-01 and useable on a Q. I've had a hard time finding any pictures of the 201FG actually mounted on a K/Q body. If the specs are to be trusted, it's actually smaller than the AF-160 that I carried for years as a "pocket flash" with my MF film bodies. The 201FG is probably the flash I wanted for my K-01 kit a couple years ago. Curse you, GBA! Originally posted by monochrome I just can't make myself get all worked up about no onboard flash. You're not trying hard enough!

04-23-2015, 08:33 AM	#490
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by THoog You're not trying hard enough!

04-23-2015, 08:46 AM	#491
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by THoog I've had a hard time finding any pictures of the 201FG actually mounted on a K/Q body. If the specs are to be trusted, it's actually smaller than the AF-160 that I carried for years as a "pocket flash" with my MF film bodies. The 201FG is probably the flash I wanted for my K-01 kit a couple years ago. Curse you, GBA! You're not trying hard enough! Judging by the photos, it is smaller than the AF200FG which takes 4AAs and is surprisingly bulky (think FA31). But even more importantly, the tilt head will allow you to store it flattish, slipping it into a slash pocket in a bag instead of taking up a lens spot.

04-23-2015, 08:58 AM	#492
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by johnmflores Judging by the photos, it is smaller than the AF200FG which takes 4AAs and is surprisingly bulky (think FA31). But even more importantly, the tilt head will allow you to store it flattish, slipping it into a slash pocket in a bag instead of taking up a lens spot. AF201FG - $146 2.6'' × 2.9'' × 1.2'' H/W/D Weight: Approx. 141 g (5.0 oz.) without batteries 2xAAA batteries AF200FG - $80 2.7 x 3.3 x 3.7" H/W/D Weight: 6.8 oz. without batteries 4x AA batteries Including batteries the 200FG will be significantly heavier than the 201FG

04-23-2015, 09:19 AM	#493
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Yes but as written 201 only takes AAA batteries, and only 2 of them ; whereas 200 takes 4 AA : that makes à huge difference in terms of durability...

04-23-2015, 09:20 AM	#494
Krizu Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Munich Posts: 22	I honestly couldn't care less about the removed flash, as I am used to shoot with radio triggers anyway. What I am really missing from the semi-pro bodies is a professional tethering solution, I hope the upcoming FF will get this.

04-23-2015, 09:32 AM	#495
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,622	just saw the release. Hmm, now that is an unexpected upgrade to the K3 and something I'd be interesting in purchasing. Since i shoot 645, I was thinking the FF would be lost on me but that I might keep an APS-C just for long tele and astro shooting...what a pleasant surprise that this may be a reasonable solution...and the GPS built in is a nice touch! so, maybe i'm one of the 30 people interested, lol.