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04-22-2015, 06:13 PM   #31
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So, Pentax designers think the GPS is more useful than a built-in flash? To me it's stupirange!
I think that is probably what a lot of serious photographers would prefer, actually. The pop-up flash is handy in a pinch for casual (and one or two pro) shooters, but the GPS unit being built-in is a huge deal for any adventure / astro photographer...

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... and that's why they released the AF-201 'mini' flash unit. Problem solved.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Matthew Saville Quote
I think that is probably what a lot of serious photographers would prefer, actually. The pop-up flash is handy in a pinch for casual (and one or two pro) shooters, but the GPS unit being built-in is a huge deal for any adventure / astro photographer...
I'm sure there are lots who prefer this, but I find the fill-in and external flash control more useful to give up on. It's only me, and I'm not such a serious or good photographer who really needs to upgrade his K-5. This just gave me another reason not to
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QuoteOriginally posted by calsan Quote
... and that's why they released the AF-201 'mini' flash unit. Problem solved.
Not quite, unless it can control external flashes...

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I'm happy with that tradeoff! Hopefully it will work a bit more consistent and quick than the current module.
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QuoteOriginally posted by calsan Quote
... and that's why they released the AF-201 'mini' flash unit. Problem solved.
No, problem shifted. There was no real GPS problem in the first place as all one had to do was buy the accessory.
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Other than for C-AF, this makes the Canon 7D Mark II look like a cruel joke. Why would anyone buy one of those? $1700 for what? Yet again, Ricoh provides great bang for the buck.
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QuoteOriginally posted by farhagh Quote
I'm sure there are lots who prefer this, but I find the fill-in and external flash control more useful to give up on. It's only me, and I'm not such a serious or good photographer who really needs to upgrade his K-5. This just gave me another reason not to
...Or a very good reason to wait ~6 months and buy a used K-3 for what, $500? :-D

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QuoteOriginally posted by farhagh Quote
I'm sure there are lots who prefer this, but I find the fill-in and external flash control more useful to give up on. It's only me, and I'm not such a serious or good photographer who really needs to upgrade his K-5. This just gave me another reason not to
Now, you have a choice. The image quality will be a little better on the K3 II, there will be the GPS unit, sensor shift foveon color thingy, a little better image quality, and better tracking auto focus -- or, for four hundred dollars cheaper you can have current K3 with a pop flash and decent (but not cutting edge) APS-C image quality.

I can honestly say that I haven't used the pop flash in the last three years (well, I have, but the photos were too lousy to keep) and so losing it doesn't matter. On the other hand, I use bounced flash with an external unit a lot and find that it gives very nice results.
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So, Pentax designers think the GPS is more useful than a built-in flash? To me it's stupirange!
I do aerial photography, and the integration of the GPS is seriously a great feature for me! Geotagging all the pics is a must do for me. I only had one O-GPS1 for my 2 K-3 bodies.
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No, problem shifted. There was no real GPS problem in the first place as all one had to do was buy the accessory.
Except that you lose flash of any kind when the GPS is attached. That is sometimes a small issue in the field when you need to light a dark area and also want GPS. There are simple work arounds but the new system will allow flash (in the hotshoe) and GPS simultaneously. I like that.
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Don't think I've ever used the flash on the K-3.


I think GPS is of pretty limited use. How long does it take to acquire satellites? I had a Garmin that would take 5 minutes to acquire satellites. I assume this technology is much faster? Not sure I need GPS. Its been years since I was so drunk I couldn't remember where I took the picture, but I see how it would have been handy at the time.


Pixel shifting is interesting and I like the technology, but it only works with static subjects. It will be good in a studio, but anywhere with wind or moving water will soft. Still wish for an actual sensor that doesn't need the RGB filter. I wish Foveon would hurry up and prefect the technology and sell it to Ricoh.


Obviously you won't be using pixel shifting and the new C-AF improvements at the same time. Hopefully the AF improvements can be implemented in the K-3 with a firmware update.
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Sample shots with the K3ii......

K3ii Features (six pages)

D-FA 70-200mm f2.8 @ 83mm/f4.0 1/50s ISO 200
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/k-3-2/ex/img/bod_mainImg_03.JPG

-D-FA 150-450 @ 410mm f5.6, 1/200s ISO 400
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/k-3-2/ex/img/bod_mainImg_07.JPG

DA 35mm f2.8 @ f2.8 1/640s
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/k-3-2/ex/img/bod_mainImg_06.JPG

D-FA 100mm f2.8 Macro, @ f11, 1/4s
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/k-3-2/ex/img/bod_mainImg_02.JPG

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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
the proverbial 'cat' pic!!! Take my $$ now Ricoh..send the 150-450 + K3II to this address....my CC is 123456789...

---------- Post added 04-23-15 at 05:25 AM ----------

to be fair this ain't too shabby either... K3 + DA*300
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/k-3/ex/img/ex-pic05.jpg
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I hear lots of folks pooh-pooh the popup flash, but it seems like whenever I need it for a little fill, it produces something special. I use it as a controller for most of the flash photos I take outside of a studio setting. The lack of a controller for off-camera P-TTL was one of the reasons the K01 has gotten less use than it could have.

I could end up getting one of these bodies for the extra resolution effect, but never would I opt to trade the flash for a GPS.
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