Pentax K-3 II Officially Announced

mee · 05-28-2015, 05:34 PM - **1 Like**

Anyone with a K-3 and a K-3II willing to do a test with images, reviewing the improved shake reduction please?

reh321 · 05-28-2015, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by mee

Anyone with a K-3 and a K-3II willing to do a test with images, reviewing the improved shake reduction please?

How would you make a test without having some kind of fancy test equipment?
You would need to take pictures under exactly the same conditions; I'm fairly sure that I'm not consistently steady, and I'm not sure I'd have much confidence in anyone else's consistency either.

mee · 05-28-2015, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by reh321

How would you make a test without having some kind of fancy test equipment?
You would need to take pictures under exactly the same conditions; I'm fairly sure that I'm not consistently steady, and I'm not sure I'd have much confidence in anyone else's consistency either.

Indeed one would need the same camera and lens in the same conditions, photographing side by side. Take 10-15 images each of the same scene. We can extrapolate from that.

timcatn · 05-28-2015, 11:40 PM

If anyone wants to lend med the cameras i have equipment to do such a test.

MMVIII · 05-29-2015, 04:56 AM - **1 Like**

To stay on track here, Imaging resource has evaluated the Pixel shift resolution and done some comparison with D810 and 645z. Must say, this sub 1k€ camera is able to deliver some mighty impressive images, of course within the possibilities of this technique, but still...

dcBear78 · 05-29-2015, 05:08 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MMVIII

To stay on track here, Imaging resource has evaluated the Pixel shift resolution and done some comparison with D810 and 645z. Must say, this sub 1k€ camera is able to deliver some mighty impressive images, of course within the possibilities of this technique, but still...

If anything, that showed me how much I want a 645Z.

bxf · 05-29-2015, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by MMVIII

To stay on track here, Imaging resource has evaluated the Pixel shift resolution and done some comparison with D810 and 645z. Must say, this sub 1k€ camera is able to deliver some mighty impressive images, of course within the possibilities of this technique, but still...

Holy flying hockey puck!

I don't often use a tripod or shoot static subjects, but seeing that first comparison of the red and pink cloths makes me want to do just that. I can't see how this can fail to seriously attract a certain group of photographers.

D1N0 · 05-29-2015, 10:28 AM

It's a great feature. Imagine what the 36mp on the FF would be like.

timcatn · 05-29-2015, 12:47 PM

Color me impressed. So how good will it be when they introduce this in the next generation 645............

mee · 05-29-2015, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

It's a great feature. Imagine what the 36mp on the FF would be like.

The thoughts in my head went as followed (after reading that article)... 'This [K-3ii] will be my next body upgrade' followed very shortly with 'wow... d800 has that level of detail in single shots.. I want the FF body!' followed very shortly with 'JUST IMAGINE THE FF CAMERA WITH THIS FEATURE!@#!' hehe

JimmyDranox · 05-29-2015, 03:14 PM

The rumors that claim that this feature will be on the Pentax FF are already old, maybe even one year. I will be really surprised if this will not be present in FF.

Shanti · 05-29-2015, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

It's a great feature. Imagine what the 36mp on the FF would be like.

yes but would maybe hurt 645 sales?? really amazing how much more detail..now for the bird to stay still long enough...

mee · 05-29-2015, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Shanti

yes but would maybe hurt 645 sales?? really amazing how much more detail..now for the bird to stay still long enough...

I think no more than it will hurt FF sales.. the ability to grab that much detail in a single shot vs 4 'glued' together means it is much more useful to buy the bigger sensored camera if you really need that type of detail in dynamic situations.

But maybe we can go one further.. this feature on the 645Z hahaha

npc · 05-30-2015, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Shanti

yes but would maybe hurt 645 sales?? really amazing how much more detail..now for the bird to stay still long enough...

Probably not. Otherwise everybody would be buying Sigma SD1 Merrills. I won't be too surprised if there are more 645Z shooters out there than SD1 shooters.

MikeD · 05-30-2015, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Nicolas06

There are games for babies you know where the baby is supposed to put the big shape into the big hole and the small shape into the small hole. Can be more complex with shape of different kind (star, square, triangle...).

If you want to give it a try, here a picture of GPS antenna from an iphone: Wholesale Spare Parts iPhone 5 GPS Antenna Flex Cable Original

Then try to play the game with the antenna and a K3... or a compact camera or GPS watch or smarphone... as many have a indeed one GPS antenna bundled.

I'd say it fit a gps watch that has also a screen, some power source, button and processor, it could bit a K3 body but for sure no one could ever draw such drastic conclusion without asking Ricoh... or a baby...

I know I will irritate a few with this but I tend to agree with what you said and HOW you said it. However the more I think about the matter I am starting to believe the removal of the OBF was strictly for cost maybe even cost savings. They were adding cost with the GPS and Astrotracer so they cut cost by removing the flash. You make a very good case for your space argument based not so much on known fact, but very good logic.

05-28-2015, 06:12 PM	#798
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by reh321 How would you make a test without having some kind of fancy test equipment? You would need to take pictures under exactly the same conditions; I'm fairly sure that I'm not consistently steady, and I'm not sure I'd have much confidence in anyone else's consistency either. Indeed one would need the same camera and lens in the same conditions, photographing side by side. Take 10-15 images each of the same scene. We can extrapolate from that. Last edited by mee; 05-28-2015 at 06:26 PM.

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mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Anyone with a K-3 and a K-3II willing to do a test with images, reviewing the improved shake reduction please?

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reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 22,146	Originally posted by mee Anyone with a K-3 and a K-3II willing to do a test with images, reviewing the improved shake reduction please? How would you make a test without having some kind of fancy test equipment? You would need to take pictures under exactly the same conditions; I'm fairly sure that I'm not consistently steady, and I'm not sure I'd have much confidence in anyone else's consistency either.

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timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 237	If anyone wants to lend med the cameras i have equipment to do such a test.

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MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,103	To stay on track here, Imaging resource has evaluated the Pixel shift resolution and done some comparison with D810 and 645z. Must say, this sub 1k€ camera is able to deliver some mighty impressive images, of course within the possibilities of this technique, but still...

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dcBear78 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Gladstone, QLD Photos: Gallery Posts: 823	Originally posted by MMVIII To stay on track here, Imaging resource has evaluated the Pixel shift resolution and done some comparison with D810 and 645z. Must say, this sub 1k€ camera is able to deliver some mighty impressive images, of course within the possibilities of this technique, but still... If anything, that showed me how much I want a 645Z.

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bxf Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by MMVIII To stay on track here, Imaging resource has evaluated the Pixel shift resolution and done some comparison with D810 and 645z. Must say, this sub 1k€ camera is able to deliver some mighty impressive images, of course within the possibilities of this technique, but still... Holy flying hockey puck! I don't often use a tripod or shoot static subjects, but seeing that first comparison of the red and pink cloths makes me want to do just that. I can't see how this can fail to seriously attract a certain group of photographers.

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D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,763	It's a great feature. Imagine what the 36mp on the FF would be like.

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timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 237	Color me impressed. So how good will it be when they introduce this in the next generation 645............

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mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by D1N0 It's a great feature. Imagine what the 36mp on the FF would be like. The thoughts in my head went as followed (after reading that article)... 'This [K-3ii] will be my next body upgrade' followed very shortly with 'wow... d800 has that level of detail in single shots.. I want the FF body!' followed very shortly with 'JUST IMAGINE THE FF CAMERA WITH THIS FEATURE!@#!' hehe

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JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,631	The rumors that claim that this feature will be on the Pentax FF are already old, maybe even one year. I will be really surprised if this will not be present in FF.

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Shanti Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by D1N0 It's a great feature. Imagine what the 36mp on the FF would be like. yes but would maybe hurt 645 sales?? really amazing how much more detail..now for the bird to stay still long enough...

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mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Shanti yes but would maybe hurt 645 sales?? really amazing how much more detail..now for the bird to stay still long enough... I think no more than it will hurt FF sales.. the ability to grab that much detail in a single shot vs 4 'glued' together means it is much more useful to buy the bigger sensored camera if you really need that type of detail in dynamic situations. But maybe we can go one further.. this feature on the 645Z hahaha

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npc Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 313	Originally posted by Shanti yes but would maybe hurt 645 sales?? really amazing how much more detail..now for the bird to stay still long enough... Probably not. Otherwise everybody would be buying Sigma SD1 Merrills. I won't be too surprised if there are more 645Z shooters out there than SD1 shooters.

05-30-2015, 11:09 AM	#810
MikeD Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: traverse city MI Posts: 346	Originally posted by Nicolas06 There are games for babies you know where the baby is supposed to put the big shape into the big hole and the small shape into the small hole. Can be more complex with shape of different kind (star, square, triangle...). If you want to give it a try, here a picture of GPS antenna from an iphone: Wholesale Spare Parts iPhone 5 GPS Antenna Flex Cable Original Then try to play the game with the antenna and a K3... or a compact camera or GPS watch or smarphone... as many have a indeed one GPS antenna bundled. I'd say it fit a gps watch that has also a screen, some power source, button and processor, it could bit a K3 body but for sure no one could ever draw such drastic conclusion without asking Ricoh... or a baby... I know I will irritate a few with this but I tend to agree with what you said and HOW you said it. However the more I think about the matter I am starting to believe the removal of the OBF was strictly for cost maybe even cost savings. They were adding cost with the GPS and Astrotracer so they cut cost by removing the flash. You make a very good case for your space argument based not so much on known fact, but very good logic.