[reh321]

Aaah, ok. I know its improved in general, but can't say anything about specific lenses..yet! I will use a few concerts during May to test the different lenses at work with the K-3 Mark II. Will do a full rapport end of may.

You have been very quiet during the discussions about flash. Do you use flash at concerts? If so, do you use a single flash unit attached to the hot-shoe, a master-slave arrangement, or something else? In other words, what is flash like in "the real world?"

[kenspo]

kenspo, beware, you are again transforming hearsay into personal experience...

Beside my bad english and grammar, i dont see the problem here? But if it pleases you, i will think more through what and how i say things.

[jaad75]

We already have the answer from asahi man:

Yeah, but he wasn't 100% sure it seems, I thought kenspo's got it confirmed with his contacts somehow...

[Mistral75]

Beside my bad english and grammar, i dont see the problem here? But if it pleases you, i will think more through what and how i say things.

It's not about pleasing me (or anybody else); simply "I know (for a fact) that" is different from "I have been told that".

For instance "the K-3 II press release will be published at 08:00 Oslo time" is different from "I have been told that the K-3 II press release should be published at 08:00 Oslo time", in particular when said press release is actually published at 00:00: in the first case, your credibility is harmed, in the second it's that of your sources.

People here trust you; you might consider not disappointing them in endorsing as your personal knowledge statements you have heard other persons make, persons who might not be as reliable or sincere as yourself.

[Franc]

semantics, does he needs to be a laywer as well?

[kenspo]

Ok, then from now on, i will stop telling anything i've been told, from any source. And only stick to things i see/test/use/feel. No problem

And about the release time, i was told specific that that time was the earliest anyone could release anything. This came from Ricoh them self, so who i am to question that? Why they decide to release it earlier in the States, is something i can not answer. But since this is the way you feel, and others I'm shure, i will not say anything about when, when it comes to the other releases this year..or next year for that matter I am maybe a bit too enthusiastic and excited. But will adjust in the future.

[monochrome]

Was the trade off between a flash and pixel shift? If so, I'd say it was a good trade. If it was the GPS,... not so much. I really liked the idea of a radio control for the flash.

Given the engineering and space constraints of the existing K-7 / K-5 / K-3 body, the trade off is between Pixel Shift / Astrotracer and GPS in the prism (which adds to the utility of Pixel Shift in many if not most of its applications and provides opportunity to use GPS with an external flash) versus Pixel Shift, O-GPS1 / Astrotracer and OBF - but no flash with O-GPS1, external or onboard.

Further, I read here some are beginning to posit flash in general might not be useable with Pixel Shift*.


* because how do you control the strobe pulses precisely enough to perfectly, identically illuminate the four image captures

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[mee]

It's not about pleasing me (or anybody else); simply "I know (for a fact) that" is different from "I have been told that".

For instance "the K-3 II press release will be published at 08:00 Oslo time" is different from "I have been told that the K-3 II press release should be published at 08:00 Oslo time", in particular when said press release is actually published at 00:00: in the first case, your credibility is harmed, in the second it's that of your sources.

People here trust you; you might consider not disappointing them in endorsing as your personal knowledge statements you have heard other persons make, persons who might not be as reliable or sincere as yourself.

Who was disappointed the press release occurred 8 hours earlier? I was pleased that it did come earlier. This is news about camera equipment.. this isn't news about life or health saving medicines or techniques where the need to know is crucial and life changing. If you're on the forums posting frequently, you're likely an enthusiast looking to be entertained about camera news anyways. Why stress the guy that has been so gracious in providing news to you? Biting the hand that feeds you.

It appears it is easy to become so demanding of things that are provided as a service that this service decides the hassle in sharing what they know outweighs sharing the information they have. At which point we'll be back to massive threads arguing popup flashes or gps. blah!

[monochrome]

semantics, does he needs to be a laywer as well?

Having had an undergraduate English Language major* (and having spent a career in a regulated industry) I can state unequivocally the value of the 'subjunctive conditional' form of expression.

I can also state American English is impossibly complex and vexing as a second language.




* presenting, I am aware, an opportunity to criticize my very sentence structure - I have forgotten over time more than I have learned.

[D1N0]

Having had an undergraduate English Language major* (and having spent a career in a regulated industry) I can state unequivocally the value of the 'subjunctive conditional' form of expression.

I can also state American English is impossibly complex and vexing as a second language.




* presenting, I am aware, an opportunity to criticize my very sentence structure - I have forgotten over time more than I have learned.

If you hadn't said this I wouldn't have

[monochrome]

If you hadn't said this I wouldn't have

Had you not I shall have said it.

[Franc]

thank God i studied British English only for a year

[Dave L]

Ok, then from now on, i will stop telling anything i've been told, from any source. And only stick to things i see/test/use/feel. No problem

No, just mark your information with "Not for the attention of x, y and z" i.e. those who do not appreciate it. Many of us do; thanks!

[Nicolas06]

Given the engineering and space constraints of the existing K-7 / K-5 / K-3 body, the trade off is between Pixel Shift / Astrotracer and GPS in the prism (which adds to the utility of Pixel Shift in many if not most of its applications and provides opportunity to use GPS with an external flash) versus Pixel Shift, O-GPS1 / Astrotracer and OBF - but no flash with O-GPS1, external or onboard.

For the GPS I don't get why it need to take the space of that flash. There are GPS in very small phones or sport watches. And even this is not the GPS that take most of the place but more the screen, processor etc. This can be really tiny. They could have made the bump of the pentaprism a bit bigger too if really necessary.

I think the removal of the flash was either because they rushed it or because they wanted to try to see how the reaction of the market would be to remove flash support.

As a side note, with wifi you have access to phone geolocalization so you could have geotag and astro tracer support through a device the photographer is likely to already have. They could have bundled it with a star map, stars descriptions and so own.

[reh321]

Ok, then from now on, i will stop telling anything i've been told, from any source. And only stick to things i see/test/use/feel. No problem

And about the release time, i was told specific that that time was the earliest anyone could release anything. This came from Ricoh them self, so who i am to question that? Why they decide to release it earlier in the States, is something i can not answer. But since this is the way you feel, and others I'm sure, i will not say anything about when, when it comes to the other releases this year..or next year for that matter I am maybe a bit too enthusiastic and excited. But will adjust in the future.

Ignore the other guys. I am interested in what you have to say. If you're not 100% right, that is OK .... I am mislead by others on a regular basis, and I cope.