"Everything Changes" with this Announcement: June 8

Shanti · 06-06-2015, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Belnan

fixed lens, mirrorless, 645z. nough said

that has been rumored by Fuji;Samsung..maybe Ricoh got them thrown in the deal after they took over Nikon

mee · 06-06-2015, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Adam

There will be an exciting announcement from Ricoh on Monday and we'll be bringing you an exclusive look at it once its official!

Do you, specifically, know what will be "announced" in this video? And, if so, is it something about which we don't know?

stevebrot · 06-06-2015, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Imp

No one has said this yet - i guess i'm the only one to know. They are actually announcing that Pentax's movie mode is now going to be better than the canon cinema camera line, or than the Red cameras, with lowlight better than the A7s, at only 12k resolution.

Duh.

You forgot to add the "spoiler alert"

Steve

stevebrot · 06-06-2015, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

We'll be able to stream porn to the camera!

Dramatic increase in chimping ensues.

Not going to go there...many good follow-ons, but not going to go there.

Steve

zoolander · 06-06-2015, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Quote:
Not often do we get access to a technology that has the potential to change how photographers work. A technology that enables photographers to create images like never before, only limited by their imagination. This is about sharpness, resolution, speed, fidelity, and so much more. It's a game changer.

This is about sharpness, resolution, speed, fidelity, and so much more. It's a game changer

Okay Sherlock what is this about ?

Why release this news with a MF photographer and not by some Head of Ricoh ?

"Sharpness" - no mirrorslap.

"Resolution" - no mirrorslap.

"Speed" - Translucent mirror more frames per second. Could become a sports camera.

"Fidelity" - Fidelity is maintained virtually no loss of light hitting the sensor.

I think its the variable translucent mirror in a 645Z.

It would be the path of least resistance and improve the frames per second, and remove mirrorslap from the equation of medium format.

Putting in SR on the 645Z sensor might be a complex job. Then there's the problem of moving that mass. Pentax already implemented OIS for medium format.

Getting rid of the mirror box and wacking in a variable translucent mirror requires much lower engineering than SR on the sensor.

Why did they give this to a Medium Format Pentaxian ? Perhaps this is a beta, to see if there will be any interest, and if the reaction to it is a flop, Munoz is the one to suffer, and Ricoh and Pentax suffers less flack.

If its a flop, then Pentax can drop the tech and keep on going with the 645Z.

I don't think it will be a flop. I've had a Sony SLT and they were pretty good, just in poor light they were useless. Variable translucent mirrors will eliminate that problem, raise the frames per second (perhaps electronic shutter above 1/8000th of a second shooting), and still maintain fidelity (maybe 99% light transmission compared to Sony's 70%).

A sports Medium Format. Thats what I say.

stevebrot · 06-06-2015, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by zoolander

Getting rid of the mirror box and wacking in a variable translucent mirror requires much lower engineering than SR on the sensor.

I have used pellicle mirror cameras...the viewfinder image pretty much sucks. Oh, and there is the light-loss penalty at exposure time too.

Steve

Painter · 06-06-2015, 07:07 PM

My invite says 'Join me when we make history!' Which does suggest that it's something new, that or they really have no sense of how detrimental over selling something is in the Internet age.

mee · 06-06-2015, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Painter

My invite says 'Join me when we make history!' Which does suggest that it's something new, that or they really have no sense of how detrimental over selling something is in the Internet age.

It wouldn't be the first time.. Canon's 'something BIG' is... a photography competition. Oh well.: Digital Photography Review

**jatrax** · 06-06-2015, 08:26 PM - **2 Likes**

I think there are going to be a lot of disappointed folks Monday evening.

Zygonyx · 06-06-2015, 09:34 PM

It could indeed just be a contractual conference on 645Z, after 1 year of use by Munoz, as part of it's sponsored activity.

reh321 · 06-06-2015, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Hey, it looks like you guys maxed out the registrations. Well done!

I'm expecting you to tell us about anything important that comes out from this.

mee · 06-06-2015, 09:52 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by Zygonyx

It could indeed just be a contractual conference on 645Z, after 1 year of use by Munoz, as part of it's sponsored activity.

Uh huh. "Look at my experiences with the 645Z system.."

Telephone rings, husband at work answers, 'Hello?'
Wife on the other end, 'Hey, I wanted to let you know I'm cooking something special tonight'
Husband: 'ooh!! I bet it is Wagyu Fillet Minon wrapped in Bacon from pigs that were non-gmo fed, bathed, and massaged daily after their morning pickleball game, sprinkled with gold dust and served on a platinum tray by Warren Buffet would be joining us for dinner tonight.. I'm so excited!!!'
Wife: '....well I was thinking more like hamburger helper stroganoff with the hawaiian rolls you like..'

^^^ This thread.

bruno.cirou · 06-06-2015, 10:19 PM

I know what! This is is a quantic sensor...

**beachgardener** · 06-06-2015, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Hey, it looks like you guys maxed out the registrations. Well done!

maybe some can do a record my desktop or some such way of documenting the session, thank you

Winder · 06-06-2015, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Painter

they really have no sense of how detrimental over selling something is in the Internet age.

I think we have a winner.

If they had truly ground breaking tech, it would be announced with a new body demonstrating the technology unless it is a feature that can be implemented in exiting bodies via firmware. Announcing new technology with no camera to put it in is pretty anticlimactic. Unless Ricoh is rolling out software or announcing they are entering the professional photo-printer market. It could be an announcement for a support technology like RAW processing or printing.

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06-06-2015, 06:22 PM	#136
Shanti Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Belnan fixed lens, mirrorless, 645z. nough said that has been rumored by Fuji;Samsung..maybe Ricoh got them thrown in the deal after they took over Nikon

06-06-2015, 06:35 PM	#137
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Adam There will be an exciting announcement from Ricoh on Monday and we'll be bringing you an exclusive look at it once its official! Do you, specifically, know what will be "announced" in this video? And, if so, is it something about which we don't know?

06-06-2015, 06:35 PM	#138
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Imp No one has said this yet - i guess i'm the only one to know. They are actually announcing that Pentax's movie mode is now going to be better than the canon cinema camera line, or than the Red cameras, with lowlight better than the A7s, at only 12k resolution. Duh. You forgot to add the "spoiler alert" Steve

06-06-2015, 06:37 PM	#139
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by jsherman999 We'll be able to stream porn to the camera! Dramatic increase in chimping ensues. Not going to go there...many good follow-ons, but not going to go there. Steve

06-06-2015, 06:38 PM	#140
zoolander Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Gold Coast Photos: Albums Posts: 351	Originally posted by Adam Quote: Not often do we get access to a technology that has the potential to change how photographers work. A technology that enables photographers to create images like never before, only limited by their imagination. This is about sharpness, resolution, speed, fidelity, and so much more. It's a game changer. This is about sharpness, resolution, speed, fidelity, and so much more. It's a game changer Okay Sherlock what is this about ? Why release this news with a MF photographer and not by some Head of Ricoh ? "Sharpness" - no mirrorslap. "Resolution" - no mirrorslap. "Speed" - Translucent mirror more frames per second. Could become a sports camera. "Fidelity" - Fidelity is maintained virtually no loss of light hitting the sensor. I think its the variable translucent mirror in a 645Z. It would be the path of least resistance and improve the frames per second, and remove mirrorslap from the equation of medium format. Putting in SR on the 645Z sensor might be a complex job. Then there's the problem of moving that mass. Pentax already implemented OIS for medium format. Getting rid of the mirror box and wacking in a variable translucent mirror requires much lower engineering than SR on the sensor. Why did they give this to a Medium Format Pentaxian ? Perhaps this is a beta, to see if there will be any interest, and if the reaction to it is a flop, Munoz is the one to suffer, and Ricoh and Pentax suffers less flack. If its a flop, then Pentax can drop the tech and keep on going with the 645Z. I don't think it will be a flop. I've had a Sony SLT and they were pretty good, just in poor light they were useless. Variable translucent mirrors will eliminate that problem, raise the frames per second (perhaps electronic shutter above 1/8000th of a second shooting), and still maintain fidelity (maybe 99% light transmission compared to Sony's 70%). A sports Medium Format. Thats what I say.

06-06-2015, 06:41 PM	#141
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by zoolander Getting rid of the mirror box and wacking in a variable translucent mirror requires much lower engineering than SR on the sensor. I have used pellicle mirror cameras...the viewfinder image pretty much sucks. Oh, and there is the light-loss penalty at exposure time too. Steve

06-06-2015, 07:07 PM	#142
Painter Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 348	My invite says 'Join me when we make history!' Which does suggest that it's something new, that or they really have no sense of how detrimental over selling something is in the Internet age.

06-06-2015, 07:40 PM	#143
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Painter My invite says 'Join me when we make history!' Which does suggest that it's something new, that or they really have no sense of how detrimental over selling something is in the Internet age. It wouldn't be the first time.. Canon's 'something BIG' is... a photography competition. Oh well.: Digital Photography Review

06-06-2015, 08:26 PM - 2 Likes	#144
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	I think there are going to be a lot of disappointed folks Monday evening.

06-06-2015, 09:34 PM	#145
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	It could indeed just be a contractual conference on 645Z, after 1 year of use by Munoz, as part of it's sponsored activity.

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06-06-2015, 09:44 PM	#146
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by Adam Hey, it looks like you guys maxed out the registrations. Well done! I'm expecting you to tell us about anything important that comes out from this.

06-06-2015, 09:52 PM - 4 Likes	#147
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Zygonyx It could indeed just be a contractual conference on 645Z, after 1 year of use by Munoz, as part of it's sponsored activity. Uh huh. "Look at my experiences with the 645Z system.." Telephone rings, husband at work answers, 'Hello?' Wife on the other end, 'Hey, I wanted to let you know I'm cooking something special tonight' Husband: 'ooh!! I bet it is Wagyu Fillet Minon wrapped in Bacon from pigs that were non-gmo fed, bathed, and massaged daily after their morning pickleball game, sprinkled with gold dust and served on a platinum tray by Warren Buffet would be joining us for dinner tonight.. I'm so excited!!!' Wife: '....well I was thinking more like hamburger helper stroganoff with the hawaiian rolls you like..' ^^^ This thread.

06-06-2015, 10:19 PM	#148
bruno.cirou Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reunion Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 63	I know what! This is is a quantic sensor...

06-06-2015, 10:20 PM	#149
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by Adam Hey, it looks like you guys maxed out the registrations. Well done! maybe some can do a record my desktop or some such way of documenting the session, thank you

06-06-2015, 10:20 PM	#150
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Painter they really have no sense of how detrimental over selling something is in the Internet age. I think we have a winner. If they had truly ground breaking tech, it would be announced with a new body demonstrating the technology unless it is a feature that can be implemented in exiting bodies via firmware. Announcing new technology with no camera to put it in is pretty anticlimactic. Unless Ricoh is rolling out software or announcing they are entering the professional photo-printer market. It could be an announcement for a support technology like RAW processing or printing.