"Everything Changes" with this Announcement: June 8

Jean Poitiers · 06-08-2015, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

You can watch at the same time a game of the womens world cup soccer!

Great idea ... Merci bien, mon ami !!!

TomTextura · 06-08-2015, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Winder

Not really. Other systems already offer leaf shutters and high sync. Doesn't live up to the hype.

LS and high speed sync may not be your cup of tea but it's a style I personally like and it's one that I see many pro photographers use, whether it be to help freeze action or kill ambient light. You're right that they aren't new tech but they could absolutely be a game changer in the MF market. The 645Z has already taken that market by storm and put Pentax in the spotlight in a very good way. A line of leaf shutter lenses that are high speed sync capable would definitely advance Pentax's position in MF.

Time Traveller · 06-08-2015, 11:46 AM

Not yet confirmed: a quantum camera that allows one to photograph events that happened yesterday and many years ago by taking advantage of quantum mechanics in the sense as Bohr and Heisenberg expressed: quantum mechanics could act as an excellent (photographic) tool in physical calculations and experiments. And it could, and it still can, and more excellent than ever with the new Pentax Quantum FF. But as I said it is not yet confirmed! But it would be an excellent tool for time travelling, I think.

Winder · 06-08-2015, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by TomTextura

LS and high speed sync may not be your cup of tea but it's a style I personally like and it's one that I see many pro photographers use, whether it be to help freeze action or kill ambient light. You're right that they aren't new tech but they could absolutely be a game changer in the MF market. The 645Z has already taken that market by storm and put Pentax in the spotlight in a very good way. A line of leaf shutter lenses that are high speed sync capable would definitely advance Pentax's position in MF.

The medium format market already has the tech, so there is nothing new about it. It doesn't matter if it is my cup of tea or not. Phase One already has 1/1,600 sync and leaf shutters. While it would be great to see leaf shutter 645 glass, its hardly "ground breaking" and its not going to "forever change how photographers create their images".

Winder · 06-08-2015, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Time Traveller

Not yet confirmed: a quantum camera that allows one to photograph events that happened yesterday and many years ago by taking advantage of quantum mechanics in the sense as Bohr and Heisenberg expressed: quantum mechanics could act as an excellent (photographic) tool in physical calculations and experiments. And it could, and it still can, and more excellent than ever with the new Pentax Quantum FF. But as I said it is not yet confirmed! But it would be an excellent tool for time travelling, I think.

Just what this guy needs.

fuent104 · 06-08-2015, 11:57 AM

Vector-based photography? That would be a pretty big change. How about a vector-based Theta?

**boriscleto** · 06-08-2015, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Time Traveller

Not yet confirmed: a quantum camera that allows one to photograph events that happened yesterday and many years ago by taking advantage of quantum mechanics in the sense as Bohr and Heisenberg expressed: quantum mechanics could act as an excellent (photographic) tool in physical calculations and experiments. And it could, and it still can, and more excellent than ever with the new Pentax Quantum FF. But as I said it is not yet confirmed! But it would be an excellent tool for time travelling, I think.

Taking photos that don't exist until you observe them.

TomTextura · 06-08-2015, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Winder

While it would be great to see leaf shutter 645 glass, its hardly "ground breaking" and its not going to "forever change how photographers create their images".

I don't expect anything from this announcement to "forever change how photographers create their images". That's pure hyperbole.

HSS 645 LS lenses would be ground breaking for Pentax in that they'd complete a missing part of the MF equation. It's sort of the reverse of how we've had FF glass but no FF DSLR; we've had a MF DSLR but no high speed capable MF leaf shutter lenses from Pentax.

I have no reason to suspect that leaf shutter lenses are going to be any part of this announcement but I have a hard time not dismissing any argument that says it wouldn't be a big deal in the medium format world for Pentax to release new LS lenses.

reh321 · 06-08-2015, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Glorfindelrb

In fact you don't, any statment about members of an empty set is true, that's all.

Actually not. Bertrand Russell became famous in math before he became famous in politics (opposing the war in Vietnam) because of a paradox he "proved", but the proof depended on a set that could not exist. Now mathematicians demand that you prove the existence of a set before you can prove anything about it. Correcting my original wording, you cannot say anything about "people on this forum who know", because that set doesn't exist.

BTW - we are now on page 27, and we still have 5-1/2 hours to blather while we wait.

starbase218 · 06-08-2015, 12:41 PM

A camera with a built-in beer tap. If it runs out, all you have to do is recharge the battery and it can make more beer.

Seriously though, what I would like (and would respect Pentax for): announce a special service to repair SDM failures. All lenses <5 years old are repaired for free. All lenses 5-10 years old are repaired at discount.

Not going to happen though.

RainMan · 06-08-2015, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by interested_observer

Don't forget to bring the popcorn...

And the vodka

gazonk · 06-08-2015, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by starbase218

A camera with a built-in beer tap.

The new Asahi Pentax

Winder · 06-08-2015, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by TomTextura

I have no reason to suspect that leaf shutter lenses are going to be any part of this announcement but I have a hard time not dismissing any argument that says it wouldn't be a big deal in the medium format world for Pentax to release new LS lenses.

New Pentax LS 645 lenses would be great, but again not really new. Updating the old line-up. It might be a big deal to a very small number of people.

They need to improve tethering first. Develop their own studio software. Maybe buy Silkypix and use that as a starting point.

You Tube

gazonk · 06-08-2015, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

I know when the GRII arrives etc..But as mentioned earlier, neither me or Ricoh in Europe know what this announcement is about..

Do we know it's Pentax-related at all? Maybe this guy has gone to the dark side...

Winder · 06-08-2015, 12:54 PM

You Tube

Alex working on tethering. Video posted by Ricoh.

06-08-2015, 11:55 AM	#395
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Time Traveller Not yet confirmed: a quantum camera that allows one to photograph events that happened yesterday and many years ago by taking advantage of quantum mechanics in the sense as Bohr and Heisenberg expressed: quantum mechanics could act as an excellent (photographic) tool in physical calculations and experiments. And it could, and it still can, and more excellent than ever with the new Pentax Quantum FF. But as I said it is not yet confirmed! But it would be an excellent tool for time travelling, I think. Just what this guy needs. Attached Images

06-08-2015, 12:15 PM	#398
TomTextura Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Denver Photos: Albums Posts: 570	Originally posted by Winder While it would be great to see leaf shutter 645 glass, its hardly "ground breaking" and its not going to "forever change how photographers create their images". I don't expect anything from this announcement to "forever change how photographers create their images". That's pure hyperbole. HSS 645 LS lenses would be ground breaking for Pentax in that they'd complete a missing part of the MF equation. It's sort of the reverse of how we've had FF glass but no FF DSLR; we've had a MF DSLR but no high speed capable MF leaf shutter lenses from Pentax. I have no reason to suspect that leaf shutter lenses are going to be any part of this announcement but I have a hard time not dismissing any argument that says it wouldn't be a big deal in the medium format world for Pentax to release new LS lenses. Last edited by TomTextura; 06-08-2015 at 12:21 PM.

06-08-2015, 12:41 PM	#400
starbase218 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy, Universe Posts: 1,119	A camera with a built-in beer tap. If it runs out, all you have to do is recharge the battery and it can make more beer. Seriously though, what I would like (and would respect Pentax for): announce a special service to repair SDM failures. All lenses <5 years old are repaired for free. All lenses 5-10 years old are repaired at discount. Not going to happen though. Last edited by starbase218; 06-08-2015 at 12:48 PM.

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06-08-2015, 11:32 AM	#391
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 You can watch at the same time a game of the womens world cup soccer! Great idea ... Merci bien, mon ami !!!

06-08-2015, 11:43 AM	#392
TomTextura Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Denver Photos: Albums Posts: 570	Originally posted by Winder Not really. Other systems already offer leaf shutters and high sync. Doesn't live up to the hype. LS and high speed sync may not be your cup of tea but it's a style I personally like and it's one that I see many pro photographers use, whether it be to help freeze action or kill ambient light. You're right that they aren't new tech but they could absolutely be a game changer in the MF market. The 645Z has already taken that market by storm and put Pentax in the spotlight in a very good way. A line of leaf shutter lenses that are high speed sync capable would definitely advance Pentax's position in MF.

06-08-2015, 11:46 AM	#393
Time Traveller Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Photos: Albums Posts: 105	Not yet confirmed: a quantum camera that allows one to photograph events that happened yesterday and many years ago by taking advantage of quantum mechanics in the sense as Bohr and Heisenberg expressed: quantum mechanics could act as an excellent (photographic) tool in physical calculations and experiments. And it could, and it still can, and more excellent than ever with the new Pentax Quantum FF. But as I said it is not yet confirmed! But it would be an excellent tool for time travelling, I think.

06-08-2015, 11:52 AM	#394
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by TomTextura LS and high speed sync may not be your cup of tea but it's a style I personally like and it's one that I see many pro photographers use, whether it be to help freeze action or kill ambient light. You're right that they aren't new tech but they could absolutely be a game changer in the MF market. The 645Z has already taken that market by storm and put Pentax in the spotlight in a very good way. A line of leaf shutter lenses that are high speed sync capable would definitely advance Pentax's position in MF. The medium format market already has the tech, so there is nothing new about it. It doesn't matter if it is my cup of tea or not. Phase One already has 1/1,600 sync and leaf shutters. While it would be great to see leaf shutter 645 glass, its hardly "ground breaking" and its not going to "forever change how photographers create their images".

06-08-2015, 11:57 AM	#396
fuent104 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,356	Vector-based photography? That would be a pretty big change. How about a vector-based Theta?

06-08-2015, 11:58 AM	#397
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by Time Traveller Not yet confirmed: a quantum camera that allows one to photograph events that happened yesterday and many years ago by taking advantage of quantum mechanics in the sense as Bohr and Heisenberg expressed: quantum mechanics could act as an excellent (photographic) tool in physical calculations and experiments. And it could, and it still can, and more excellent than ever with the new Pentax Quantum FF. But as I said it is not yet confirmed! But it would be an excellent tool for time travelling, I think. Taking photos that don't exist until you observe them.

06-08-2015, 12:32 PM	#399
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Glorfindelrb In fact you don't, any statment about members of an empty set is true, that's all. Actually not. Bertrand Russell became famous in math before he became famous in politics (opposing the war in Vietnam) because of a paradox he "proved", but the proof depended on a set that could not exist. Now mathematicians demand that you prove the existence of a set before you can prove anything about it. Correcting my original wording, you cannot say anything about "people on this forum who know", because that set doesn't exist. BTW - we are now on page 27, and we still have 5-1/2 hours to blather while we wait.

06-08-2015, 12:49 PM	#401
RainMan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bellingham, WA. Photos: Albums Posts: 157	Originally posted by interested_observer Don't forget to bring the popcorn... And the vodka

06-08-2015, 12:52 PM	#402
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by starbase218 A camera with a built-in beer tap. The new Asahi Pentax

06-08-2015, 12:53 PM	#404
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by kenspo I know when the GRII arrives etc..But as mentioned earlier, neither me or Ricoh in Europe know what this announcement is about.. Do we know it's Pentax-related at all? Maybe this guy has gone to the dark side...