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06-24-2015, 09:33 AM   #61
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There is a group of people who want FF for "the look" not for resolution and they will want a 6D type of camera. Low cost, poor performance but FF. For "the look" myself, I would prefer to buy 1.4 lenses rather than whole new body, but hey, that's just me.
Not me... don't want to think or touch a "6D type and look" of Pentax FF. It has to be like D810 or better before I will consider an upgrade.

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Imagine if the took a 42 MP image and used it to create a combined 14 Mp image like a pixel shifted image. A pixel shift without the need for long exposures. Now there's a concept.
But I need to upgrade my new PC again... 42.4 MP is cool, but it's excessive resolution for amateurs.
Any smaller RAW format would be good.
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QuoteOriginally posted by aleonx3 Quote
Not me... don't want to think or touch a "6D type and look" of Pentax FF. It has to be like D810 or better before I will consider an upgrade.
So, the 6d and d810 are different in looks how exactly? They both look like giant black dslrs to me.
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But I need to upgrade my new PC again...
But I have a brand new PC; who cares about yours!

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For "the look" myself, I would prefer to buy 1.4 lenses rather than whole new body, but hey, that's just me.
Same here, but f1.4. lenses are tricky in APS-C land, both to obtain and to focus dead on wide open. If it has to be f1.4 then quite likely it's dine at Fuji's. I guess this is all part of a trend, a nudging of users towards FF while APS-C majors on 5.6-f8 with ye consumer zooms. A pity but that's what it looks like.
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But I have a brand new PC; who cares about yours!
Me too, but I'm not sure that any new PC will work instantly with 42.4 MP files.
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So, the 6d and d810 are different in looks how exactly? They both look like giant black dslrs to me.
Ah ha... good point, I mean 'looks or IQ' of the photos from those two cameras.
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Same here, but f1.4. lenses are tricky in APS-C land, both to obtain and to focus dead on wide open. If it has to be f1.4 then quite likely it's dine at Fuji's. I guess this is all part of a trend, a nudging of users towards FF while APS-C majors on 5.6-f8 with ye consumer zooms. A pity but that's what it looks like.
That is what I'm seeing too.. APS-C is the more affordable lineup, FF becomes the serious enthusiast/professional lineup, and the MF stays the flagship uber.

At least when FF is finally launched.... Though how hard is it to relaunch the older DA and DA* lenses with the HD coatings and curved blades?

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I mean we must think what market segment is the FF going for? Weddings/events? Landscape? Sports/Wildlife? if weddings then 36-42 MP is overkill(>OMG dear is that how you really look--as he pixels peeps their wedding pics )
maybe 2 models..but not at once..1st one in Nov then in Feb /March to keep people interested..why not a 20MP sports/wildlife & 42MP Landscape models
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So, the 6d and d810 are different in looks how exactly? They both look like giant black dslrs to me.
The look of the pictures.. do I have explain everything? You know the guys who will swear up and down on a stack of bibles they can tell the difference between 6D images and K-3 images, because the 6D images have "the look" even though the K-3 has more resolution. It's that dreamy full frame look that all us APS_c shooter just fail to appreciate.

I'm like you guys.. look schmook, give me more resolution.
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Same here, but f1.4. lenses are tricky in APS-C land, both to obtain and to focus dead on wide open..

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I have an SMC 50mm f1.4, Sigma 35mm f1.4, Samyang 24mm f1.4, Samyang 85mm f1.4.


I use them happily on APS-C Pentax and FF Sony.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
excessive resolution for amateurs.
Where was it written the FF will be pitched at amateurs?

IMHO it will be a full-on professional camera that many dedicated enthusiasts and some wealthy amateurs will also buy.
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Me....I just need something new to play with....to distract me from my mundane existince....preferably with the rear AF button in the same place as the K3.
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I have an SMC 50mm f1.4, Sigma 35mm f1.4, Samyang 24mm f1.4, Samyang 85mm f1.4.


I use them happily on APS-C Pentax and FF Sony.
Two are MF and three lack modern lens motors. And all four are FF focal lengths, not the APS-C equivalent. I was really thinking of lenses like the DA* 55mm f1.4 or the Fuji 23mm f1.4, lenses made with APS-C in mind. That's the point: if you want fast lenses on APS-C, chances are you will have to use FF ones. So, the companies whisper, why not move on to FF anyway, APS-C is for tourists with kit zooms, go on, the bank will love extending you a loan ... you know it makes sense,

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The thing that will swing it for me is amp glow. I have 2x D800E and 1X D810 and amp-glow is a nightmare when I push shadows. My K-5 and K01 have no such issues and if the FF is the same I'll be sold.
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