FF out in 4 months

**Erictator** · 07-01-2015, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by rhmimac

Oh yes, FF film still rules because of price for me Mr Amateur.

If you can find film and someplace to get it processed in the near future...

Kidding aside, my local Costco, which used Fuji Crystal Archive paper and well maintained Noristu print machines recently stopped processing film in store.

Thank heaven for pro labs like Reedy Photo, etc. still in existence near me. But for your average Joe, he wouldn't find a place to get film done without having to do a bit of searching even today.

Oh, and to stay on topic, I still say the new Sony 42MP BSI is the one... mainly because Kenspo went from posting about every 30 minutes to once or twice a day since Sony announced it and has avoided the subject like the plague! Ahahahahahahahah!

Eric

**Rondec** · 07-01-2015, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Erictator

If you can find film and someplace to get it processed in the near future...

Kidding aside, my local Costco, which used Fuji Crystal Archive paper and well maintained Noristu print machines recently stopped processing film in store.

Thank heaven for pro labs like Reedy Photo, etc. still in existence near me. But for your average Joe, he wouldn't find a place to get film done without having to do a bit of searching even today.

Oh, and to stay on topic, I still say the new Sony 42MP BSI is the one... mainly because Kenspo went from posting about every 30 minutes to once or twice a day since Sony announced it and has avoided the subject like the plague! Ahahahahahahahah!

Eric

I don't know that he knows anything for certain. His information suggested that there was going to be a new sensor in the K3 II, but clearly it is the same one as in the K3. I just really don't know that there is any particular benefit to going 42 MP unless Pentax has the processor necessary to deal with 4K video and fast frame rate with large files. Maybe they do, but it would be the first time they've made an effort in those directions.

enoeske · 07-01-2015, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I don't know that he knows anything for certain. His information suggested that there was going to be a new sensor in the K3 II, but clearly it is the same one as in the K3. I just really don't know that there is any particular benefit to going 42 MP unless Pentax has the processor necessary to deal with 4K video and fast frame rate with large files. Maybe they do, but it would be the first time they've made an effort in those directions.

I just re-read some posts and he definitely never said it would have a new sensor. He said it was the same sensor with some improvements. Possibly better high ISO handling, but the same sensor.

**Erictator** · 07-01-2015, 07:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rondec

I don't know that he knows anything for certain. His information suggested that there was going to be a new sensor in the K3 II, but clearly it is the same one as in the K3. I just really don't know that there is any particular benefit to going 42 MP unless Pentax has the processor necessary to deal with 4K video and fast frame rate with large files. Maybe they do, but it would be the first time they've made an effort in those directions.

Hmm... true, but maybe Ricoh was testing their peeps and giving false info to trace down some leaks? It's like DC politics. When you see the one rumor you only gave to so and so make the headlines, you know who your leaker is!

See, now we can have rumors AND paranoia! Awesome!

Eric

kenspo · 07-01-2015, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by enoeske

I just re-read some posts and he definitely never said it would have a new sensor. He said it was the same sensor with some improvements. Possibly better high ISO handling, but the same sensor.

They first gave me impression that they would use a new sensor. But what you write here, is what i was certain on and wrote before release.

Franc · 07-01-2015, 08:06 AM

i'll just wait and see. rumors? pffff

normhead · 07-01-2015, 08:10 AM

I think it's only 3months now, someone should change the thread title.

danielwsc · 07-01-2015, 12:40 PM - **1 Like**

How about Ricoh stuffs the A7R II in a K3 body, processor and all? Lose the mirror and put an EVF in the pentaprism housing. I'd pay $3K for that; Pentax glass complete with (screwdrive) AF feeding that sweet sensor, without using an adapter.

enoeske · 07-01-2015, 12:52 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by danielwsc

How about Ricoh stuffs the A7R II in a K3 body, processor and all? Lose the mirror and put an EVF in the pentaprism housing. I'd pay $3K for that; Pentax glass complete with (screwdrive) AF feeding that sweet sensor, without using an adapter.

ugh, no thanks

RockvilleBob · 07-01-2015, 01:08 PM - **1 Like**

I heard Ricoh was taking the optics from the SR 71 Blackbird and shrinking them to fit in the K3 body and working with China to put Six Clicks on a chip. The prototype weighs 125 pounds - which they feel they can cut by 75% for production - but it can resolve a monkey's ass in a forest from 5 miles away at 20 fps on a full frame chip.

markac · 07-05-2015, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by JPT

From what Sony has been saying about the 42mp sensor in interviews, it should perform better than the 36mp in every way, so I see little reason for Ricoh to go with the old one. It would hardly be an aggressive move to come out with something that Nikon has been using for several years and that Sony has just discontinued use of.

One of the few bits of definitive information that Ricoh actually shared about the Pentax FF of that it would have an APS-C crop mode. That would seem to rule out a 20mp sensor.

So, I'm guessing it will have a 42mp sensor. But I also think a second cheaper model with a more modest mp count will be available soon.

I have to agree with 42mp. Trying to market a new FF camera using a 36mp sensor that both Sony and it's biggest customer Nikon have moved on from, would be quite difficult. It would also mean buyers would expect it to be considerably cheaper as it's not perceived as being the 'latest', no matter how good it might be.

K David · 07-05-2015, 10:06 PM

Since this thread's been up for two weeks, can we get the title revised to say "3.5 months"? You know, not that we're counting or anything.

rawr · 07-05-2015, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by K David

Since this thread's been up for two weeks, can we get the title revised to say "3.5 months"? You know, not that we're counting or anything.

Good idea.
We need a dynamic count-down timer, which updates itself every day until end October.
[And which is easy to re-set, if needed - for some date in 2016, 2017, 2018 ...

]

RonHendriks1966 · 07-06-2015, 06:04 AM - **2 Likes**

countdown

rawr · 07-06-2015, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

countdown

Well done. It's set to Tokyo time, which is useful.

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07-01-2015, 07:14 AM	#106
Erictator Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,344	Originally posted by rhmimac Oh yes, FF film still rules because of price for me Mr Amateur. If you can find film and someplace to get it processed in the near future... Kidding aside, my local Costco, which used Fuji Crystal Archive paper and well maintained Noristu print machines recently stopped processing film in store. Thank heaven for pro labs like Reedy Photo, etc. still in existence near me. But for your average Joe, he wouldn't find a place to get film done without having to do a bit of searching even today. Oh, and to stay on topic, I still say the new Sony 42MP BSI is the one... mainly because Kenspo went from posting about every 30 minutes to once or twice a day since Sony announced it and has avoided the subject like the plague! Ahahahahahahahah! Eric

07-01-2015, 07:22 AM	#107
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Erictator If you can find film and someplace to get it processed in the near future... Kidding aside, my local Costco, which used Fuji Crystal Archive paper and well maintained Noristu print machines recently stopped processing film in store. Thank heaven for pro labs like Reedy Photo, etc. still in existence near me. But for your average Joe, he wouldn't find a place to get film done without having to do a bit of searching even today. Oh, and to stay on topic, I still say the new Sony 42MP BSI is the one... mainly because Kenspo went from posting about every 30 minutes to once or twice a day since Sony announced it and has avoided the subject like the plague! Ahahahahahahahah! Eric I don't know that he knows anything for certain. His information suggested that there was going to be a new sensor in the K3 II, but clearly it is the same one as in the K3. I just really don't know that there is any particular benefit to going 42 MP unless Pentax has the processor necessary to deal with 4K video and fast frame rate with large files. Maybe they do, but it would be the first time they've made an effort in those directions.

07-01-2015, 07:28 AM	#108
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by Rondec I don't know that he knows anything for certain. His information suggested that there was going to be a new sensor in the K3 II, but clearly it is the same one as in the K3. I just really don't know that there is any particular benefit to going 42 MP unless Pentax has the processor necessary to deal with 4K video and fast frame rate with large files. Maybe they do, but it would be the first time they've made an effort in those directions. I just re-read some posts and he definitely never said it would have a new sensor. He said it was the same sensor with some improvements. Possibly better high ISO handling, but the same sensor.

07-01-2015, 07:30 AM - 1 Like	#109
Erictator Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,344	Originally posted by Rondec I don't know that he knows anything for certain. His information suggested that there was going to be a new sensor in the K3 II, but clearly it is the same one as in the K3. I just really don't know that there is any particular benefit to going 42 MP unless Pentax has the processor necessary to deal with 4K video and fast frame rate with large files. Maybe they do, but it would be the first time they've made an effort in those directions. Hmm... true, but maybe Ricoh was testing their peeps and giving false info to trace down some leaks? It's like DC politics. When you see the one rumor you only gave to so and so make the headlines, you know who your leaker is! See, now we can have rumors AND paranoia! Awesome! Eric

07-01-2015, 07:31 AM	#110
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by enoeske I just re-read some posts and he definitely never said it would have a new sensor. He said it was the same sensor with some improvements. Possibly better high ISO handling, but the same sensor. They first gave me impression that they would use a new sensor. But what you write here, is what i was certain on and wrote before release.

07-01-2015, 08:06 AM	#111
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	i'll just wait and see. rumors? pffff

07-01-2015, 08:10 AM	#112
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	I think it's only 3months now, someone should change the thread title.

07-01-2015, 12:40 PM - 1 Like	#113
danielwsc New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8	How about Ricoh stuffs the A7R II in a K3 body, processor and all? Lose the mirror and put an EVF in the pentaprism housing. I'd pay $3K for that; Pentax glass complete with (screwdrive) AF feeding that sweet sensor, without using an adapter.

07-01-2015, 12:52 PM - 2 Likes	#114
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by danielwsc How about Ricoh stuffs the A7R II in a K3 body, processor and all? Lose the mirror and put an EVF in the pentaprism housing. I'd pay $3K for that; Pentax glass complete with (screwdrive) AF feeding that sweet sensor, without using an adapter. ugh, no thanks

07-01-2015, 01:08 PM - 1 Like	#115
RockvilleBob Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Lewes DE USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,780	I heard Ricoh was taking the optics from the SR 71 Blackbird and shrinking them to fit in the K3 body and working with China to put Six Clicks on a chip. The prototype weighs 125 pounds - which they feel they can cut by 75% for production - but it can resolve a monkey's ass in a forest from 5 miles away at 20 fps on a full frame chip.

07-05-2015, 08:23 PM	#116
markac Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Adelaide Posts: 84	Originally posted by JPT From what Sony has been saying about the 42mp sensor in interviews, it should perform better than the 36mp in every way, so I see little reason for Ricoh to go with the old one. It would hardly be an aggressive move to come out with something that Nikon has been using for several years and that Sony has just discontinued use of. One of the few bits of definitive information that Ricoh actually shared about the Pentax FF of that it would have an APS-C crop mode. That would seem to rule out a 20mp sensor. So, I'm guessing it will have a 42mp sensor. But I also think a second cheaper model with a more modest mp count will be available soon. I have to agree with 42mp. Trying to market a new FF camera using a 36mp sensor that both Sony and it's biggest customer Nikon have moved on from, would be quite difficult. It would also mean buyers would expect it to be considerably cheaper as it's not perceived as being the 'latest', no matter how good it might be.

07-05-2015, 10:06 PM	#117
K David Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,437	Since this thread's been up for two weeks, can we get the title revised to say "3.5 months"? You know, not that we're counting or anything.

07-05-2015, 10:38 PM	#118
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by K David Since this thread's been up for two weeks, can we get the title revised to say "3.5 months"? You know, not that we're counting or anything. Good idea. We need a dynamic count-down timer, which updates itself every day until end October. [And which is easy to re-set, if needed - for some date in 2016, 2017, 2018 ... ]

07-06-2015, 06:04 AM - 2 Likes	#119
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	countdown

07-06-2015, 06:26 AM	#120
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 countdown Well done. It's set to Tokyo time, which is useful.