FF out in 4 months

D1N0 · 07-06-2015, 07:01 AM

Pretty sure they won't announce it on a saturday. Better set it for October 29 00:00u CET

RonHendriks1966 · 07-06-2015, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Pretty sure they won't announce it on a saturday. Better set it for October 29 00:00u CET

It probably is more like a deadline

Winder · 07-18-2015, 05:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

I still think it will be 32 or less MP.. and still quite possibly this 20 MP sensor.

Originally posted by rawr

OK, so now we have two silly sensor rumours for the Pentax FF - the 42MP Sony stacked BSI one, and the alleged 20MP Nikon D5 one.

The sensors in the D3, D700, D4, D4s, & Df were designed by Nikon and manufactured by Renesas. The sensor coming in the D5 is probably also a Nikon design which is manufactured by Renesas. I seriously doubt we see a Nikon designed sensor in a Ricoh body.

I hope we see a version of the 42MP BSI sensor. Regardless, it is going to be great sensor.

**monochrome** · 07-18-2015, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Where was it written the FF will be pitched at amateurs?

IMHO it will be a full-on professional camera that many dedicated enthusiasts and some wealthy amateurs will also buy.

Originally posted by ogl

FF is made for ANY human.

Strange conclusion...very strange. The professional is the distinctive feature of user, not the GEAR. It was, it is and it will be.

I have been using cameras for 35 years, but I'm amateur. Ben Kanarek used K-x for video and other APS-C cameras for HQ photos. But he is professional.

Originally posted by kenspo

Very strange or not, this first FF and the new lenses coming, are aimed at pros and the pro-marked. But that doesn't mean that amateurs and dedicated enthusiasts can't buy it. Pentax wants in to the pro-marked. And one of my missions, is to show other pros that Pentax is a good choice for the future. One of the reasons they signed me in the first place.

Yes.

And thanks.

rawr · 07-18-2015, 11:28 PM

A few gnostic fragments from asahi man in a current thread on the 'other site' :

Quote:

Not more.The Pentax fullframe is in work since 3,5 years.
November is still the date. link
[...]
Next year is prime year by the way ...
This year and beginning of next year is the time of the zoom link

**beachgardener** · 07-19-2015, 12:09 AM

now we are getting into the thick of it

D1N0 · 07-19-2015, 10:19 AM - **1 Like**

Can someone start a thread that's called "Shit Asahiman says on the dark site" ?

Kunzite · 07-19-2015, 10:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by D1N0

Can someone start a thread that's called "Shit Asahiman says on the dark site" ?

Nope. You can start instead a thread called "I get jealous when people knows more than I do, and I would insult them".

- the FF being in works for more than 3 years, check. Because:
a. that's about how long it would take to finish a new high-end camera
b. we first heard about it in December 2012
c. Ricoh said so in an interview to DPReview

- November being the date - I don't know, but it's plausible

- Next year's primes - again, it's plausible (after filling 15-200 with f/2.8 zooms and up to 450mm with slower ones). We should have some information early next year (new roadmap at CP+) or early summer.

- This year being "the time of the zoom" is public knowledge.

In other words, nothing outrageous enough to be called "shit".

Zygonyx · 07-19-2015, 11:27 AM

And as far as the style is concerned, you understand with only little effort...

**Mikesul** · 07-19-2015, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Can someone start a thread that's called "Shit Asahiman says on the dark site" ?

I probably should not try to speak for D1N0 but I do not think he meant any disrespect to Asahiman. In many American youth vernaculars "shit" just means "stuff" without any necessary negative connotation. Of course, sometimes it does mean "dumb stuff" but how could anyone characterize Asahiman's contributions that way?

D1N0 · 07-19-2015, 01:47 PM

Kunzite Relax, it's just slang.

Bryce K · 07-19-2015, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Kunzite Relax, it's just slang.

there's no smack like photog smack

**monochrome** · 07-19-2015, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

I probably should not try to speak for D1N0 but I do not think he meant any disrespect to Asahiman. In many American youth vernaculars "shit" just means "stuff" without any necessary negative connotation. Of course, sometimes it does mean "dumb stuff" but how could anyone characterize Asahiman's contributions that way?

There's a Twitter Meme that had a brief supernova follower moment - (book, TV show - or maybe the book came first) - "Sh*t My Dad Says."

Originally posted by D1N0

Kunzite Relax, it's just slang.

Just Google 'My Dad Says'

Kunzite · 07-19-2015, 03:13 PM

If native English speakers are saying it... my apologies to D1N0, then. The memory of people attacking Kenspo (to which D1N0 never participated IIRC) are probably too fresh in my mind.
I never thought the word could be used without any negative connotation. Slang or not, I still cannot see how it could possibly not have any negative connotation. Yet it is. Amazing.

JibbaJab · 07-19-2015, 04:28 PM - **1 Like**

American humor tends to be rather irreverent. I thought D1N0's post was hilarious.

07-19-2015, 10:56 AM - 1 Like	#128
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by D1N0 Can someone start a thread that's called "Shit Asahiman says on the dark site" ? Nope. You can start instead a thread called "I get jealous when people knows more than I do, and I would insult them". - the FF being in works for more than 3 years, check. Because: a. that's about how long it would take to finish a new high-end camera b. we first heard about it in December 2012 c. Ricoh said so in an interview to DPReview - November being the date - I don't know, but it's plausible - Next year's primes - again, it's plausible (after filling 15-200 with f/2.8 zooms and up to 450mm with slower ones). We should have some information early next year (new roadmap at CP+) or early summer. - This year being "the time of the zoom" is public knowledge. In other words, nothing outrageous enough to be called "shit". Last edited by Kunzite; 07-19-2015 at 11:21 AM.

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07-06-2015, 07:01 AM	#121
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Pretty sure they won't announce it on a saturday. Better set it for October 29 00:00u CET

07-06-2015, 07:06 AM	#122
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by D1N0 Pretty sure they won't announce it on a saturday. Better set it for October 29 00:00u CET It probably is more like a deadline

07-18-2015, 05:50 PM - 1 Like	#123
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by mee I still think it will be 32 or less MP.. and still quite possibly this 20 MP sensor. Originally posted by rawr OK, so now we have two silly sensor rumours for the Pentax FF - the 42MP Sony stacked BSI one, and the alleged 20MP Nikon D5 one. The sensors in the D3, D700, D4, D4s, & Df were designed by Nikon and manufactured by Renesas. The sensor coming in the D5 is probably also a Nikon design which is manufactured by Renesas. I seriously doubt we see a Nikon designed sensor in a Ricoh body. I hope we see a version of the 42MP BSI sensor. Regardless, it is going to be great sensor.

07-18-2015, 08:22 PM	#124
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by monochrome Where was it written the FF will be pitched at amateurs? IMHO it will be a full-on professional camera that many dedicated enthusiasts and some wealthy amateurs will also buy. Originally posted by ogl FF is made for ANY human. Strange conclusion...very strange. The professional is the distinctive feature of user, not the GEAR. It was, it is and it will be. I have been using cameras for 35 years, but I'm amateur. Ben Kanarek used K-x for video and other APS-C cameras for HQ photos. But he is professional. Originally posted by kenspo Very strange or not, this first FF and the new lenses coming, are aimed at pros and the pro-marked. But that doesn't mean that amateurs and dedicated enthusiasts can't buy it. Pentax wants in to the pro-marked. And one of my missions, is to show other pros that Pentax is a good choice for the future. One of the reasons they signed me in the first place. Yes. And thanks.

07-18-2015, 11:28 PM	#125
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	A few gnostic fragments from asahi man in a current thread on the 'other site' : Quote: Not more.The Pentax fullframe is in work since 3,5 years. November is still the date. link [...] Next year is prime year by the way ... This year and beginning of next year is the time of the zoom link

07-19-2015, 12:09 AM	#126
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	now we are getting into the thick of it

07-19-2015, 10:19 AM - 1 Like	#127
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Can someone start a thread that's called "Shit Asahiman says on the dark site" ?

07-19-2015, 11:27 AM	#129
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	And as far as the style is concerned, you understand with only little effort...

07-19-2015, 12:38 PM	#130
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by D1N0 Can someone start a thread that's called "Shit Asahiman says on the dark site" ? I probably should not try to speak for D1N0 but I do not think he meant any disrespect to Asahiman. In many American youth vernaculars "shit" just means "stuff" without any necessary negative connotation. Of course, sometimes it does mean "dumb stuff" but how could anyone characterize Asahiman's contributions that way?

07-19-2015, 01:47 PM	#131
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Kunzite Relax, it's just slang.

07-19-2015, 02:05 PM	#132
Bryce K Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Richmond, TX Posts: 93	Originally posted by D1N0 Kunzite Relax, it's just slang. there's no smack like photog smack

07-19-2015, 02:44 PM	#133
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Mikesul I probably should not try to speak for D1N0 but I do not think he meant any disrespect to Asahiman. In many American youth vernaculars "shit" just means "stuff" without any necessary negative connotation. Of course, sometimes it does mean "dumb stuff" but how could anyone characterize Asahiman's contributions that way? There's a Twitter Meme that had a brief supernova follower moment - (book, TV show - or maybe the book came first) - "Sh*t My Dad Says." Originally posted by D1N0 Kunzite Relax, it's just slang. Just Google 'My Dad Says'

07-19-2015, 03:13 PM	#134
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	If native English speakers are saying it... my apologies to D1N0, then. The memory of people attacking Kenspo (to which D1N0 never participated IIRC) are probably too fresh in my mind. I never thought the word could be used without any negative connotation. Slang or not, I still cannot see how it could possibly not have any negative connotation. Yet it is. Amazing.

07-19-2015, 04:28 PM - 1 Like	#135
JibbaJab Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 362	American humor tends to be rather irreverent. I thought D1N0's post was hilarious.