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06-28-2015, 09:37 PM   #121
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If the Ricoh boffins can make 42MP work nicely in their new camera (ie do more than 5 fps, plus support a decent buffer), of course that would be nice. The Samsung NX-1 points to what may be possible, I guess - 15fps @ 28MP in APS-C could probably translate into about 8 fps at 42MP.

Nikon and Canon have it easy - they are able to offer high speed for sports or high megapixels for studio in specialised FF cameras. If Pentax makes only one FF, it will be under pressure to be a 'jack of all trades' and be good at everything.

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QuoteOriginally posted by VoiceOfReason Quote
We keep hearing that Ricoh is going to use the latest stuff, but then people here on the forum keep wanting Ricoh to use Sony and Nikon's castoffs, 3 year old tech. Why is that? So, is Ricoh going to use the latest tech, or will Ricoh use tech that has been out for a few years? Why would people here want a camera that will succeed and pull people from other brands, yet want that camera with old tech? I don't think you can get both at once.
It could be argued that once you achieve a certain level of IQ, other factors/features become more significant factors in making a camera choice.
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I think some have too high expectations here!
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I think some have too high expectations here!
There is this way of thinking...rumours gets wings even that you would say that this will or will not happen. It is nice to have a dream.

Now we can be REALLY disapointed when it is 'just' a 36 MP FF with just 4-7 FPS it might have SR, but sony has that allready ect.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rupert Quote
That is so the squealers and naysayers can squeal and naysay no matter which way they go! I thought everyone understood that by now!

Regards!
It's just their special way of expressing their love for the brand. Isn't it? I mean, tough love and all thatů
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QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
It's just their special way of expressing their love for the brand. Isn't it? I mean, tough love and all thatů
No, it is more building castles in the air. It's what happens in the rumor section of the forum when we near the release of a new camera. Unfortunately, it usually leads to disappointment when the new camera doesn't measure up to people's expectations.
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We need an irony emoticon.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
We need an irony emoticon.
I understand. It is just aggravating when people build up these cameras, imagining all the things that Ricoh could throw into them and then, imagine a 1800 or 2000 dollar price tag.

My guess would be something between the D810 and the D750, with a frame rate of 5 or 6 fps and Pentax's own little touches thrown in on top (in body shake reduction, excellent weather sealing and build, astro tracer built in, GPS built in, super resolution mode like the K3 II). I doubt video will be great on it -- it has just seemed like an after thought all of this time with Pentax.

I don't know how well this camera will sell, but I think it is what we are getting.

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The main question, as far as I'm concerned, is whether the pixel-shift technology will constitute the "difference" that the Ricoh reps talked about in their interviews, prior to the actual announcement of this forthcoming body. Certainly, no rival 35FF will have it, but perhaps they still have something we haven't seen, let alone guessed at. If the design study that was shown at CP+ is anything to go by, interchangeable viewfinders doesn't seem to be it, as much as I'd like it to be (and no rival has that, either).
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My guess would be something between the D810 and the D750, with a frame rate of 5 or 6 fps and Pentax's own little touches thrown in on top
I've said before that I think that a K750 or K810 would be a decent FF outcome for Pentaxians.

Such a 'conventional' FF turning up in late 2015 would, however, beg the question: why couldn't they have done that a year ago (at least)?

So, one hopes, they must have something else in the pipeline for their new FF that is not entirely conventional, and has required extra development time.
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Well they may have waited for a sensor refresh and a new processing engine as not to be outdated within a year.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
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Such a 'conventional' FF turning up in late 2015 would, however, beg the question: why couldn't they have done that a year ago (at least)? ...
Perhaps because they weren't prepared to make the commitment to FF at that time?
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
I've said before that I think that a K750 or K810 would be a decent FF outcome for Pentaxians.

Such a 'conventional' FF turning up in late 2015 would, however, beg the question: why couldn't they have done that a year ago (at least)?

So, one hopes, they must have something else in the pipeline for their new FF that is not entirely conventional, and has required extra development time.
We can only speculate... hence most of the strange, dreamy guesstimates.

But, if it is the D750 sensor, at least it will have been in production for some time.. meaning cost shouldn't be drastic.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
I've said before that I think that a K750 or K810 would be a decent FF outcome for Pentaxians.

Such a 'conventional' FF turning up in late 2015 would, however, beg the question: why couldn't they have done that a year ago (at least)?

So, one hopes, they must have something else in the pipeline for their new FF that is not entirely conventional, and has required extra development time.
In any case, the "one thinking" crowds will - whatever Pentax will do - decree that the new FF has "nothing worth buying it"...
So let's hope there will be enough novelty as far as sensor is concerned...
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
I've said before that I think that a K750 or K810 would be a decent FF outcome for Pentaxians.

Such a 'conventional' FF turning up in late 2015 would, however, beg the question: why couldn't they have done that a year ago (at least)?

So, one hopes, they must have something else in the pipeline for their new FF that is not entirely conventional, and has required extra development time.
My guess as to delay would be (1) Getting auto focus at least decent (all I am hoping for) -- at least D600 level or (2) figuring out how to make SR work with a larger sensor.
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