Nikon D700

Matjazz · 06-18-2008, 02:24 PM

It's a FX camera meaning it has sensor from D3 as well as focusing and image processing technology. The body appears to be as big as D300. The price is 3k$.

More here
Nikon D700 ... - FM Forums

Now let's roll the "Pentax must make FF" mill all over again.

Art Vandelay II · 06-18-2008, 05:50 PM

Unless someone has way, way, way too much spare time on their hand's to do some serious Photoshop work this one looks legit.

Specs:

* FX Format
* 12.1 Megapixel CMOS Sensor
* EXPEED Image Processor
* 14 bit A/D Conversion
* 16 bit Image Processing
* Magnesium Alloy Body
* Compatible with MB-D10 Battery Grip

I still think Nikon is screwing up by *only* using a 12 megapixel FF sensor. Canon has had a 12 megapixel FF sensor in the 5D for 3 years now, and the popular rumor is it will be replaced with a 16 megapixel version this fall. I know 12 megapixels is more than enough for 99% of most users, but people dropping $3k on a camera body tend to be pros that need all the resolution they can get. Besides, 12 megapixel APS-C sensors are just fine. IMO the only worthwhile reason to go FF is to get higher resolution noise-free images.

12 megapixel D300 + $1200 worth of glass or 12 megapixel D700 without a lens. That's a no brainer for me.

OniFactor · 06-18-2008, 07:03 PM

the high ISO numbers scare me.

slightly.

HermanLee · 06-18-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by OniFactor

the high ISO numbers scare me.

slightly.

Where did you see the ISO? I can't see it.
Anyway, how high is it gonna be?

OniFactor · 06-18-2008, 10:06 PM

25600. yikes..

Roberts · 06-19-2008, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by OniFactor

25600. yikes..

Nikon D3 already has ISO 25600

Richard Day · 06-19-2008, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by Matjazz

It's a FX camera meaning it has sensor from D3 as well as focusing and image processing technology. The body appears to be as big as D300. The price is 3k$.

More here
Nikon D700 ... - FM Forums

Now let's roll the "Pentax must make FF" mill all over again.

I guess it's inevitable!

It's obviously where the large boys (C, N & S) feel they need to concentrate, or (me being cynical!) that maybe Nikon aren't moving as many of the FF bodies as they thought and have to introduce a "cheapie" to move the inventory of their FF sensors!

I'm surprised that the long rumoured D3x hasn't surfaced as yet, as I know a few Nikon D2x shooters that aren't interested in going FF (i.e. with the D3) and are desperately waiting for that one. Maybe it's next from Nikon, or that Nikon will introduce a higher MP sensor D3 so that D2x shooters (with DX lenses) don't suffer a MP loss when using the cropped format.

I think Photokina will spring a rash of new models as the makers all chase a bigger share of the market in an increasingly tough economic climate.

I believe that Canon are facing far tougher conditions than Pentax, due to the attack from Nikon, and an increasing degree from Sony, on their mid and top range models.

How Pentax will react to all of this, is anyones guess!

Richard Day · 06-19-2008, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay II

Snip ..
12 megapixel D300 + $1200 worth of glass or 12 megapixel D700 without a lens. That's a no brainer for me.

Ah! But the FFer's will buy one to have ISO 25,600 and use old s/h 50mm f1.4 lenses they pick up at flea markets for $25 each, to take pictures of their black cat's in coal cellars.

and · 06-19-2008, 03:45 AM

What makes me curious is that if the specs are true it seems to be a d300 with the d3 sensor, now the odd thing about that is that the differences between the d300 and d3 are already quite small, save for the sensor. how will the d3 justify 2000 dollars more? will be pretty minor stuff. a bit more fps, tougher build, thats about it. for 2000 dollars... seems to be amazing value for money this new cam if its true.

ogl · 06-19-2008, 04:13 AM

I think it's real. Good move of Nikon.

**NaClH2O** · 06-19-2008, 04:17 AM

$3K. Well that leaves me out right there.

NaCl(and I don't lust after Ferrari's either)H2O

RiceHigh · 06-19-2008, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by Matjazz

It's a FX camera meaning it has sensor from D3 as well as focusing and image processing technology. The body appears to be as big as D300. The price is 3k$.

More here
Nikon D700 ... - FM Forums

Now let's roll the "Pentax must make FF" mill all over again.

My Analysis and Opinions:-

RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Nikon D700 Full Frame Is Probably Coming. So, What Pentax Will Do?

cateto · 06-19-2008, 04:52 AM

Analysis is one thing.

Systematic bashing is another, completely different thing.

It would be best to use proper names for things.

Once upon a time, when I was a newbie in this, I was scanning the net for information on Pentax. Found your blog and thought it looked interesting. It took me very short to realize what actually was the object of your analysis focused on Pentax.

As I posted elsewhere, the internet is a wonderful tool, but one should be careful to check the credibility of anything posted, as there are many disguised animals around.

kenyee · 06-19-2008, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

My Analysis and Opinions

We analyzed the FF lens issue already. They're not that many lenses away since a lot of the DA ones work on FF except for the ultralight zooms.
That said, I'm sure they will *ADD* FF eventually (my guess is within 2 years). This doesn't mean APS-C will go away...

OniFactor · 06-19-2008, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Roberts

Nikon D3 already has ISO 25600

yes, and quite a premium for the D3 as well. soon we'll probably see their high ISO trickling down to advanced amateur level cameras..

06-18-2008, 02:24 PM	#1
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	Nikon D700 It's a FX camera meaning it has sensor from D3 as well as focusing and image processing technology. The body appears to be as big as D300. The price is 3k$. More here Nikon D700 ... - FM Forums Now let's roll the "Pentax must make FF" mill all over again.

06-19-2008, 04:32 AM	#12
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	The current situation is really very ADVERSE! Originally posted by Matjazz It's a FX camera meaning it has sensor from D3 as well as focusing and image processing technology. The body appears to be as big as D300. The price is 3k$. More here Nikon D700 ... - FM Forums Now let's roll the "Pentax must make FF" mill all over again. My Analysis and Opinions:- RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Nikon D700 Full Frame Is Probably Coming. So, What Pentax Will Do?

06-19-2008, 04:52 AM	#13
cateto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 189	Analysis is one thing. Systematic bashing is another, completely different thing. It would be best to use proper names for things. Once upon a time, when I was a newbie in this, I was scanning the net for information on Pentax. Found your blog and thought it looked interesting. It took me very short to realize what actually was the object of your analysis focused on Pentax. As I posted elsewhere, the internet is a wonderful tool, but one should be careful to check the credibility of anything posted, as there are many disguised animals around. Last edited by cateto; 06-19-2008 at 04:57 AM.

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06-18-2008, 05:50 PM	#2
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	Unless someone has way, way, way too much spare time on their hand's to do some serious Photoshop work this one looks legit. Specs: * FX Format * 12.1 Megapixel CMOS Sensor * EXPEED Image Processor * 14 bit A/D Conversion * 16 bit Image Processing * Magnesium Alloy Body * Compatible with MB-D10 Battery Grip I still think Nikon is screwing up by only using a 12 megapixel FF sensor. Canon has had a 12 megapixel FF sensor in the 5D for 3 years now, and the popular rumor is it will be replaced with a 16 megapixel version this fall. I know 12 megapixels is more than enough for 99% of most users, but people dropping $3k on a camera body tend to be pros that need all the resolution they can get. Besides, 12 megapixel APS-C sensors are just fine. IMO the only worthwhile reason to go FF is to get higher resolution noise-free images. 12 megapixel D300 + $1200 worth of glass or 12 megapixel D700 without a lens. That's a no brainer for me.

06-18-2008, 07:03 PM	#3
OniFactor Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Binghamton, NY, USA Posts: 643	the high ISO numbers scare me. slightly.

06-18-2008, 09:47 PM	#4
HermanLee Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern California, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 729	Originally posted by OniFactor the high ISO numbers scare me. slightly. Where did you see the ISO? I can't see it. Anyway, how high is it gonna be?

06-18-2008, 10:06 PM	#5
OniFactor Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Binghamton, NY, USA Posts: 643	25600. yikes..

06-19-2008, 02:41 AM	#6
Roberts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Latvia Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Originally posted by OniFactor 25600. yikes.. Nikon D3 already has ISO 25600

06-19-2008, 03:34 AM	#7
Richard Day Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Gloucester UK Posts: 441	Originally posted by Matjazz It's a FX camera meaning it has sensor from D3 as well as focusing and image processing technology. The body appears to be as big as D300. The price is 3k$. More here Nikon D700 ... - FM Forums Now let's roll the "Pentax must make FF" mill all over again. I guess it's inevitable! It's obviously where the large boys (C, N & S) feel they need to concentrate, or (me being cynical!) that maybe Nikon aren't moving as many of the FF bodies as they thought and have to introduce a "cheapie" to move the inventory of their FF sensors! I'm surprised that the long rumoured D3x hasn't surfaced as yet, as I know a few Nikon D2x shooters that aren't interested in going FF (i.e. with the D3) and are desperately waiting for that one. Maybe it's next from Nikon, or that Nikon will introduce a higher MP sensor D3 so that D2x shooters (with DX lenses) don't suffer a MP loss when using the cropped format. I think Photokina will spring a rash of new models as the makers all chase a bigger share of the market in an increasingly tough economic climate. I believe that Canon are facing far tougher conditions than Pentax, due to the attack from Nikon, and an increasing degree from Sony, on their mid and top range models. How Pentax will react to all of this, is anyones guess!

06-19-2008, 03:41 AM	#8
Richard Day Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Gloucester UK Posts: 441	Originally posted by Art Vandelay II Snip .. 12 megapixel D300 + $1200 worth of glass or 12 megapixel D700 without a lens. That's a no brainer for me. Ah! But the FFer's will buy one to have ISO 25,600 and use old s/h 50mm f1.4 lenses they pick up at flea markets for $25 each, to take pictures of their black cat's in coal cellars.

06-19-2008, 03:45 AM	#9
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	What makes me curious is that if the specs are true it seems to be a d300 with the d3 sensor, now the odd thing about that is that the differences between the d300 and d3 are already quite small, save for the sensor. how will the d3 justify 2000 dollars more? will be pretty minor stuff. a bit more fps, tougher build, thats about it. for 2000 dollars... seems to be amazing value for money this new cam if its true.

06-19-2008, 04:13 AM	#10
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I think it's real. Good move of Nikon.

06-19-2008, 04:17 AM	#11
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	$3K. Well that leaves me out right there. NaCl(and I don't lust after Ferrari's either)H2O

06-19-2008, 07:18 AM	#14
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by RiceHigh My Analysis and Opinions We analyzed the FF lens issue already. They're not that many lenses away since a lot of the DA ones work on FF except for the ultralight zooms. That said, I'm sure they will ADD FF eventually (my guess is within 2 years). This doesn't mean APS-C will go away...

06-19-2008, 07:25 AM	#15
OniFactor Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Binghamton, NY, USA Posts: 643	Originally posted by Roberts Nikon D3 already has ISO 25600 yes, and quite a premium for the D3 as well. soon we'll probably see their high ISO trickling down to advanced amateur level cameras..