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11-29-2015, 12:28 PM   #106
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How do we know it isn't the marketing department pressuring the engineering department to fix things?
Because it always the marketing department who is pressuring the other department, it is why you have to download a new firmware as you get a new gadget it's the way it is ... always ...

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Kodak had a system like that for pros back in the 90's. It used a split mirror concept. Part of the image went to the camera and part to the sensor. You got an instant screen shot to view on a CRT monitor. It was used by mainly by portrait and school photographers.
It is amasing what people can do with technology, I wonder if they can make it fit in a dslr?
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And the cost of having someone add a new picture to a website once a week is simply so low as to be ridiculous.
Very true.
I think the new FF probably has a lot of interesting features, other than simply being a FF K-mount device with a viewfinder.

From time to time before launch, the website could hint at each K-1 selling point or innovation:
  • week 1: respecting Pentax tradition [cue slideshow of Pentax history, LX, 6x7, 645 etc blending into shadowed FF body];
  • week 2: wide lens support out-of-the-box [cue slide-show of full-frame compatible lenses, old and new];
  • week 3: big bright viewfinder, with secret Pentax tech inside [slideshow of early spotmatic viewfinder hump, 6x7/645 viewfinder hump, peek inside and out of the new FF viewfinder];
  • week 4: a great sports camera [cue slideshow of football, ski jump etc scenes, glimpses of great new AF technology, high fps];
  • week 5: a great field camera [cue slideshow of landscape scenes, wildlife shots, flippy screen at work on tripod, water drops on side of camera body];
  • week 6: great for weddings and low-light [cue pix of smiling bride and groom in dark church interior, image crops showing great low-light low-noise detail of bridal veil, image of new BSI sensor],
etc.

They could progressively do a dozen of these on the website right up until the day of the launch.
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They could progressively do a dozen of these on the website right up until the day of the launch.
They just might do a dozen starting 12 weeks before the launch.

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it is why you have to download a new firmware as you get a new gadget
So true. I bought a new television a few days ago. A 230MB firmware download was waiting for me, to 'improve general performance and stability' of the TV.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
They just might do a dozen starting 12 weeks before the launch.
If they do, I can claim they used my idea.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
From time to time before launch, the website could hint at each K-1 selling point or innovation:
  • week 1: respecting Pentax tradition [cue slideshow of Pentax history, LX (...snip)
They heard you.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/308856-pentax-ff-teaser-updated.html
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
week 1: respecting Pentax tradition [cue slideshow of Pentax history, LX, 6x7, 645 etc blending into shadowed FF body];
I think this just happened -
Full Frame by PENTAX | RICOH IMAGING

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Snap!

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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
Very true.
...
  • week 1: respecting Pentax tradition [cue slideshow of Pentax history, LX, 6x7, 645 etc blending into shadowed FF body];
  • week 2: wide lens support out-of-the-box [cue slide-show of full-frame compatible lenses, old and new];
    ...
etc.

They could progressively do a dozen of these on the website right up until the day of the launch.
OK, nice job :-)
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The system the Kodak used 20 years ago would not translate well to the SLR world. At the same time that this product was being sold, a lot of brand new Nikon F4's were coming into Kodak and being fitted with digital backs.

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I wonder if there is a market for both another FA Limited production run and an updated D-FA* HD SDM run of the (generally) same optical designs?
D-FA HD DC WR

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Yes, for God's sake keep the ring motors out of the Limited primes. IIRC the DA Limited HD vs SMC review on this site somewhere let on that the biggest winner for the HD treatment was the 40 pancake, which was also the oldest of the Limited lenses (and heavily based on an M-series lens). This makes me suspect that the only thing the FA limiteds really need is an update to HD coatings, possibly quickshift if that isn't too difficult (and looking at the 40 Pancake I can't see it adding much if any volume), and nothing more.
To be competitive, the updated limiteds (if they exist) will need DC motors. And I for one would love that very much.

Quickshift would be easy indeed. The presence or absence of the aperture ring is irrelevant, so it will probably disappear except if it's cheaper to keep it there instead of redesigning. HD is a no-brainer

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To be competitive, the undated limiteds (if they exist) will need DC motors. And I for one would love that very much. Quickshift would be easy indeed. The presence or absence of the aperture ring is irrelevant, so it will probably disappear except if it's cheaper to keep it there instead of redesigning. HD is a no-brainer
I can go either way on the DC motor / screwdrive. But quickshift would be very nice. Aperture ring is also a "who cares" for me. HD, yes of course. WR? I don't know, I expected the updated DA Limiteds to have WR but they did not. I guess the only change to the DA's was the coating.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
(...) I guess the only change to the DA's was the coating.
HD coating and rounded aperture blades.
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HD coating and rounded aperture blades.
Yep, forgot about that. That is why I bought the SMC 15mm
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Second hand 70-200/2.8 on eBay before new on shelf

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a second hand (preproduction) copy is available before it can be bought new.
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