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wuschti · 09-18-2015, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Pentax answer on the question around being behind schedule:

"No, we are on schedule. But we have decided to enrich some functions and specifications furthermore to satisfy our customers.
We are expecting different launching schedule from previous announcement considering the time we need to develop."

Well... more time to save money

grispie · 09-18-2015, 01:14 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

Pentax answer on the question around being behind schedule:

"No, we are on schedule. But we have decided to enrich some functions and specifications furthermore to satisfy our customers.
We are expecting different launching schedule from previous announcement considering the time we need to develop."

I usually buy something nice for myself for christmas.
What am i going to buy now? :-)

Mistral75 · 09-18-2015, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Pentax answer on the question around being behind schedule:

"No, we are on schedule. But we have decided to enrich some functions and specifications furthermore to satisfy our customers.
We are expecting different launching schedule from previous announcement considering the time we need to develop."

Marketing guys are like cats: they always fall on their feet.

They would have been on schedule, should have they launched the product that they planned to, but decided to "enrich some functions and specifications furthermore" to "satisfy [their] customers."

Put the other way around, it means that the original product lacked some functions and specifications and wouldn't have satisfied customers

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Gray · 09-18-2015, 01:20 AM

I'm prepared to wait, but my FAs and K55/1.8 show no patience at all!

Seriously, I can wait until April or May next year, if it means I'll get a well-engineered and reliable camera. I have confidence now in Ricoh, that they will get it right and release a photographer's camera that will be even more of a joy to use than my K-5II.

Mistral75 · 09-18-2015, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Foxbat

From similar thread on another forum:

Huh?

Apparently he just deleted his comment.

kenspo · 09-18-2015, 01:22 AM - **1 Like**

Answer on if the product is correct one on the pics:

"There are some parts which are not the final shape because we have to protect our rights for registration of design.
In this time, we are going to answer "No" including the reasons why we cannot reply the question."

**RobA_Oz** · 09-18-2015, 01:28 AM

It's a little disappointing that the new body won't be available for another six months, but I'm one of the group who decided to wait a little after launch before deciding to buy, so it's no big issue for me. The news that additional features are being added is welcome.

Thinking about the overall situation, especially the slowdown in the Chinese economy and how that's affecting Western economies, I suspect there's a bit of breathing space for Ricoh in there as well, as far as the market for this new camera is concerned. Sony and Canon can throw as many new models out as they like, but I really doubt the conditions are ideal for a great uptake. Nikon, I expect to be more conservative, and not respond rashly to the Canon hype about pixel counts, though I doubt Sony's going to undertake a corporate personality change any time soon.

From the February announcement, we all knew that having it out by November was going to be a close-run thing, just from a logistical viewpoint, and I'm willing to bet that supply chain issues had more to do with this delay than Ricoh will admit to. I'd be really surprised if the Shake Reduction mechanism had anything to do with this delay.

At least we know there's a 35FF coming, with a Pentax name on it and without the body bloat that Canon and Nikon's offerings have.

Mistral75 · 09-18-2015, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Answer on if the product is correct one on the pics:

"There are some parts which are not the final shape because we have to protect our rights for registration of design.
In this time, we are going to answer "No" including the reasons why we cannot reply the question."

I cannot confirm nor deny this statement.

ogl · 09-18-2015, 01:36 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Didn't they stopped using the PENTAX.COM site?

Maybe they stopped paying for it and some Russian grabbel it just for fun........ Is that possible Ogl?

pentax.com was died after Hoya, and it revives now by holy spirit of Ricoh

davidsladek · 09-18-2015, 01:38 AM - **1 Like**

In all honesty, I am a little disappointed and perhaps even more scared that they've cut the branch under their feet with this step...

On the other hand, that advert says: Full Frame by PENTAX... by PENTAX is much stronger than PENTAX.

PENTAX is a brand in Ricoh's possession and by that logic, the FF cannot be 'made by PENTAX'. 'by PENTAX' implies that the PENTAX company is back in business... at least to me... well, we know it's not, but it just shows the strong commitment to the brand by Ricoh... which has now been undermined by the postponement

Simen1 · 09-18-2015, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by grispie

I usually buy something nice for myself for christmas.
What am i going to buy now? :-)

Do you already have all the Limited and Star lenses? If so, maybe buy yourself a ticket to a place you have never been.

npc · 09-18-2015, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Answer on if the product is correct one on the pics:

"There are some parts which are not the final shape because we have to protect our rights for registration of design.
In this time, we are going to answer "No" including the reasons why we cannot reply the question."

Funny, it's not like everyone else is waiting for PENTAX to release a FF camera so they can copy it.
Besides, they already showed the prototype so to make this kind of darkened teaser like everybody else is little pointless.

ZombieArmy · 09-18-2015, 01:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by npc

Funny, it's not like everyone else is waiting for PENTAX to release a FF camera so they can copy it.
Besides, they already showed the prototype so to make this kind of darkened teaser like everybody else is little pointless.

And why wouldn't a company copy Pentax? Big competitor or not a good idea is a good idea.

Mistral75 · 09-18-2015, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by davidsladek

In all honesty, I am a little disappointed and perhaps even more scared that they've cut the branch under their feet with this step...

On the other hand, that advert says: Full Frame by PENTAX... by PENTAX is much stronger than PENTAX.

PENTAX is a brand in Ricoh's possession and by that logic, the FF cannot be 'made by PENTAX'. 'by PENTAX' implies that the PENTAX company is back in business... at least to me... well, we know it's not, but it just shows the strong commitment to the brand by Ricoh... which has now been undermined by the postponement

It's because Ricoh are about to incorporate the Pentax business into a subsidiary so as to divest it more easily.

ogl · 09-18-2015, 01:44 AM

don't we think that the shape of prism looks a bit strange...?
or it's just design

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09-18-2015, 01:17 AM	#63
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by kenspo Pentax answer on the question around being behind schedule: "No, we are on schedule. But we have decided to enrich some functions and specifications furthermore to satisfy our customers. We are expecting different launching schedule from previous announcement considering the time we need to develop." Marketing guys are like cats: they always fall on their feet. They would have been on schedule, should have they launched the product that they planned to, but decided to "enrich some functions and specifications furthermore" to "satisfy [their] customers." Put the other way around, it means that the original product lacked some functions and specifications and wouldn't have satisfied customers . Last edited by Mistral75; 09-18-2015 at 01:30 AM.

09-18-2015, 01:44 AM	#75
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	don't we think that the shape of prism looks a bit strange...? or it's just design ---------- Post added 09-18-2015 at 01:47 AM ---------- compare Last edited by ogl; 09-18-2015 at 01:51 AM.

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09-18-2015, 01:13 AM	#61
wuschti New Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mannheim Posts: 10	Originally posted by kenspo Pentax answer on the question around being behind schedule: "No, we are on schedule. But we have decided to enrich some functions and specifications furthermore to satisfy our customers. We are expecting different launching schedule from previous announcement considering the time we need to develop." Well... more time to save money

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grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by kenspo Pentax answer on the question around being behind schedule: "No, we are on schedule. But we have decided to enrich some functions and specifications furthermore to satisfy our customers. We are expecting different launching schedule from previous announcement considering the time we need to develop." I usually buy something nice for myself for christmas. What am i going to buy now? :-)

09-18-2015, 01:20 AM	#64
Gray Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cape Town Photos: Gallery Posts: 536	I'm prepared to wait, but my FAs and K55/1.8 show no patience at all! Seriously, I can wait until April or May next year, if it means I'll get a well-engineered and reliable camera. I have confidence now in Ricoh, that they will get it right and release a photographer's camera that will be even more of a joy to use than my K-5II.

09-18-2015, 01:22 AM	#65
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Foxbat From similar thread on another forum: Huh? Apparently he just deleted his comment.

09-18-2015, 01:22 AM - 1 Like	#66
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Answer on if the product is correct one on the pics: "There are some parts which are not the final shape because we have to protect our rights for registration of design. In this time, we are going to answer "No" including the reasons why we cannot reply the question."

09-18-2015, 01:28 AM	#67
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	It's a little disappointing that the new body won't be available for another six months, but I'm one of the group who decided to wait a little after launch before deciding to buy, so it's no big issue for me. The news that additional features are being added is welcome. Thinking about the overall situation, especially the slowdown in the Chinese economy and how that's affecting Western economies, I suspect there's a bit of breathing space for Ricoh in there as well, as far as the market for this new camera is concerned. Sony and Canon can throw as many new models out as they like, but I really doubt the conditions are ideal for a great uptake. Nikon, I expect to be more conservative, and not respond rashly to the Canon hype about pixel counts, though I doubt Sony's going to undertake a corporate personality change any time soon. From the February announcement, we all knew that having it out by November was going to be a close-run thing, just from a logistical viewpoint, and I'm willing to bet that supply chain issues had more to do with this delay than Ricoh will admit to. I'd be really surprised if the Shake Reduction mechanism had anything to do with this delay. At least we know there's a 35FF coming, with a Pentax name on it and without the body bloat that Canon and Nikon's offerings have.

09-18-2015, 01:32 AM	#68
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by kenspo Answer on if the product is correct one on the pics: "There are some parts which are not the final shape because we have to protect our rights for registration of design. In this time, we are going to answer "No" including the reasons why we cannot reply the question." I cannot confirm nor deny this statement.

09-18-2015, 01:36 AM - 1 Like	#69
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Didn't they stopped using the PENTAX.COM site? Maybe they stopped paying for it and some Russian grabbel it just for fun........ Is that possible Ogl? pentax.com was died after Hoya, and it revives now by holy spirit of Ricoh

09-18-2015, 01:38 AM - 1 Like	#70
davidsladek Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Surrey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 346	In all honesty, I am a little disappointed and perhaps even more scared that they've cut the branch under their feet with this step... On the other hand, that advert says: Full Frame by PENTAX... by PENTAX is much stronger than PENTAX. PENTAX is a brand in Ricoh's possession and by that logic, the FF cannot be 'made by PENTAX'. 'by PENTAX' implies that the PENTAX company is back in business... at least to me... well, we know it's not, but it just shows the strong commitment to the brand by Ricoh... which has now been undermined by the postponement

09-18-2015, 01:38 AM	#71
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by grispie I usually buy something nice for myself for christmas. What am i going to buy now? :-) Do you already have all the Limited and Star lenses? If so, maybe buy yourself a ticket to a place you have never been.

09-18-2015, 01:38 AM	#72
npc Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 313	Originally posted by kenspo Answer on if the product is correct one on the pics: "There are some parts which are not the final shape because we have to protect our rights for registration of design. In this time, we are going to answer "No" including the reasons why we cannot reply the question." Funny, it's not like everyone else is waiting for PENTAX to release a FF camera so they can copy it. Besides, they already showed the prototype so to make this kind of darkened teaser like everybody else is little pointless.

09-18-2015, 01:41 AM - 1 Like	#73
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210	Originally posted by npc Funny, it's not like everyone else is waiting for PENTAX to release a FF camera so they can copy it. Besides, they already showed the prototype so to make this kind of darkened teaser like everybody else is little pointless. And why wouldn't a company copy Pentax? Big competitor or not a good idea is a good idea.

09-18-2015, 01:43 AM	#74
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by davidsladek In all honesty, I am a little disappointed and perhaps even more scared that they've cut the branch under their feet with this step... On the other hand, that advert says: Full Frame by PENTAX... by PENTAX is much stronger than PENTAX. PENTAX is a brand in Ricoh's possession and by that logic, the FF cannot be 'made by PENTAX'. 'by PENTAX' implies that the PENTAX company is back in business... at least to me... well, we know it's not, but it just shows the strong commitment to the brand by Ricoh... which has now been undermined by the postponement It's because Ricoh are about to incorporate the Pentax business into a subsidiary so as to divest it more easily.

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