Rumors Flying! True of False?

**monochrome** · 09-18-2015, 05:56 PM - **1 Like**

Dudes. It's shadowed. If that's even a photograph and not a pure manipulation.

Actually, we're all being manipulated.

Wild Mark · 09-18-2015, 05:56 PM

To drop screw drive at this point would be a product disaster. Not impossible, but the FF demand would evaporate overnight - without doubt. I do not think the Pentax Ricoh mob would even contemplate such step at this stage.

Marketing suicide

**Rondec** · 09-18-2015, 06:20 PM

Why would Pentax bother keeping the k mount if they got rid of the screwdrive?

It is more likely to vanish from an entry level camera than from a flagship like this will be.

**UncleVanya** · 09-18-2015, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

If there's no screw drive, none of the DA limited lenses will do much on the body. Then crop mode would be a total waste of money to put in there--you could use like 3 lenses with it! Since they've talked of crop mode, it would seem reasonable that they're not going to half support the DA lenses without screw drive.

Lol a bit more than three. Every DA* other than the 55(16-50,50-135,60-250, 200, 300), all DC lenses (20-40, 18-135, 16-85, 18-50). The 18-270 and 17-70...kaf3 lenses... But it will have screw drive.

Adam · 09-18-2015, 06:31 PM

Personally I think they should move away from screwdrive in all future DFA lenses, but not having an AF motor would certainly be a deal breaker for most users here.

I mean even Nikon has retained screwdrive support even though almost all AF-D lenses are no longer current...

Allison · 09-18-2015, 07:17 PM

Maybe they are actually marketing geniuses. They have certainly managed to captivate all of our attention. They will slowly dribble out bits and pieces for us to over analyze over the next several months...screw drive or no screw drive...cold shoe or hot shoe...flip panel screen or not...evf or ovf...

We will picture the worst. We will agonize over how it will surely be the end of Pentax. And then they will release the specs and it will be better than we imagined - so even if it doesn't have everything we ever wanted it will still be better than the worst case scenario. And we will be happy until we start the process over again 6 months after the new camera release.

cali92rs · 09-18-2015, 07:59 PM

I don't think they should do away from screw drive...but why even go through the hassle of showing the mount without one? I mean they could get the mount out of any old K-5 parts bin. Or it could be a CAD model, but then again someone would purposely have to delete the hole. Why go through the 5 second exercise of deleting it from the model?

AOCO · 09-18-2015, 08:05 PM - **5 Likes**

there is no lens on the camera ... may be it's because Ricoh/Pentax decide to give up on lenses too ^^

**monochrome** · 09-18-2015, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by cali92rs

Why go through the 5 second exercise of deleting it from the model?

Go to K-mount page and look at the Kaf mount drawing. Open two Tabs and page them.

The screwdrive is completely shadowed. It's just shadowed.

Not a Number · 09-18-2015, 08:24 PM - **1 Like**

Geeze, it's just a mock-up.

Looky Looky! GASP! There is no focus screen! No Mirror! It must have an EVF! OMG! It's MIRRORLESS!

Wait! Wait! There's no sensor either....

LOL!

MadMathMind · 09-18-2015, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Personally I think they should move away from screwdrive in all future DFA lenses, but not having an AF motor would certainly be a deal breaker for most users here.

I think they could probably do a lot to make it quieter. But I really like it because it makes all the lenses so much lighter. I guess the 20-40 shows us that is possible to be compact with an internal motor, but I worry we're going to end like Canon where seemingly every lens has a 77+ mm filter and weighs about 2 lbs. (Ok, exaggeration, their primes aren't that big. But they're not 49mm threads either. It's really something when the 58mm of the FA31 is your fatman.)

672 · 09-19-2015, 02:18 AM

if it has a 36 megapixel sony sensor there are no K lenses made past or present that can maximize what the camera is capable of. read in other forums about the Nikon D800 and lack of really complementary lenses.

or our own 645D and Z . The old glass is just okay , until it is stopped down several stops. But the modern DFA glass is amazing.

this new FF camera will need new lenses period, otherwise just shoot the ol' 17x22mm format.

**Rondec** · 09-19-2015, 02:36 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Not a Number

Geeze, it's just a mock-up.

Looky Looky! GASP! There is no focus screen! No Mirror! It must have an EVF! OMG! It's MIRRORLESS!

Wait! Wait! There's no sensor either....

LOL!

Now I am really worried...

Could it be possible that this is actually a film camera and not digital at all?

fwbigd · 09-19-2015, 04:24 AM

Guys don't get to excited about the post on Canon Rumors the source date FEB 2015 from Photo Rumors

totsmuyco · 09-19-2015, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Geeze, it's just a mock-up.

Looky Looky! GASP! There is no focus screen! No Mirror! It must have an EVF! OMG! It's MIRRORLESS!

Wait! Wait! There's no sensor either....

LOL!

Who knows? You might be right! It's a mirrorless! It's like the Sony a7 with 3x the focus speed of the best FF camera! Well, a lot of us here hopes so.

09-18-2015, 06:20 PM	#18
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monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Dudes. It's shadowed. If that's even a photograph and not a pure manipulation. Actually, we're all being manipulated.

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Wild Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Newcastle Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,954	To drop screw drive at this point would be a product disaster. Not impossible, but the FF demand would evaporate overnight - without doubt. I do not think the Pentax Ricoh mob would even contemplate such step at this stage. Marketing suicide

09-18-2015, 06:26 PM	#19
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,400	Originally posted by MadMathMind If there's no screw drive, none of the DA limited lenses will do much on the body. Then crop mode would be a total waste of money to put in there--you could use like 3 lenses with it! Since they've talked of crop mode, it would seem reasonable that they're not going to half support the DA lenses without screw drive. Lol a bit more than three. Every DA* other than the 55(16-50,50-135,60-250, 200, 300), all DC lenses (20-40, 18-135, 16-85, 18-50). The 18-270 and 17-70...kaf3 lenses... But it will have screw drive.

09-18-2015, 07:17 PM	#21
Allison Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 667	Maybe they are actually marketing geniuses. They have certainly managed to captivate all of our attention. They will slowly dribble out bits and pieces for us to over analyze over the next several months...screw drive or no screw drive...cold shoe or hot shoe...flip panel screen or not...evf or ovf... We will picture the worst. We will agonize over how it will surely be the end of Pentax. And then they will release the specs and it will be better than we imagined - so even if it doesn't have everything we ever wanted it will still be better than the worst case scenario. And we will be happy until we start the process over again 6 months after the new camera release.

09-18-2015, 07:59 PM	#22
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	I don't think they should do away from screw drive...but why even go through the hassle of showing the mount without one? I mean they could get the mount out of any old K-5 parts bin. Or it could be a CAD model, but then again someone would purposely have to delete the hole. Why go through the 5 second exercise of deleting it from the model?

09-18-2015, 08:05 PM - 5 Likes	#23
AOCO Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Paris Posts: 42	there is no lens on the camera ... may be it's because Ricoh/Pentax decide to give up on lenses too ^^

09-18-2015, 08:15 PM	#24
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by cali92rs Why go through the 5 second exercise of deleting it from the model? Go to K-mount page and look at the Kaf mount drawing. Open two Tabs and page them. The screwdrive is completely shadowed. It's just shadowed.

09-18-2015, 08:24 PM - 1 Like	#25
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Geeze, it's just a mock-up. Looky Looky! GASP! There is no focus screen! No Mirror! It must have an EVF! OMG! It's MIRRORLESS! Wait! Wait! There's no sensor either.... LOL!

09-18-2015, 08:55 PM	#26
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by Adam Personally I think they should move away from screwdrive in all future DFA lenses, but not having an AF motor would certainly be a deal breaker for most users here. I think they could probably do a lot to make it quieter. But I really like it because it makes all the lenses so much lighter. I guess the 20-40 shows us that is possible to be compact with an internal motor, but I worry we're going to end like Canon where seemingly every lens has a 77+ mm filter and weighs about 2 lbs. (Ok, exaggeration, their primes aren't that big. But they're not 49mm threads either. It's really something when the 58mm of the FA31 is your fatman.)

09-19-2015, 02:18 AM	#27
672 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: santa monica Photos: Gallery Posts: 486	if it has a 36 megapixel sony sensor there are no K lenses made past or present that can maximize what the camera is capable of. read in other forums about the Nikon D800 and lack of really complementary lenses. or our own 645D and Z . The old glass is just okay , until it is stopped down several stops. But the modern DFA glass is amazing. this new FF camera will need new lenses period, otherwise just shoot the ol' 17x22mm format.

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09-19-2015, 02:36 AM - 1 Like	#28
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by Not a Number Geeze, it's just a mock-up. Looky Looky! GASP! There is no focus screen! No Mirror! It must have an EVF! OMG! It's MIRRORLESS! Wait! Wait! There's no sensor either.... LOL! Now I am really worried... Could it be possible that this is actually a film camera and not digital at all?

09-19-2015, 05:27 AM	#30
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by Not a Number Geeze, it's just a mock-up. Looky Looky! GASP! There is no focus screen! No Mirror! It must have an EVF! OMG! It's MIRRORLESS! Wait! Wait! There's no sensor either.... LOL! Who knows? You might be right! It's a mirrorless! It's like the Sony a7 with 3x the focus speed of the best FF camera! Well, a lot of us here hopes so.