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clawhammer · 09-23-2015, 09:26 PM - **1 Like**

Anyone else confused that it's not a star lens?

Daikokuya · 09-23-2015, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by clawhammer

Anyone else confused that it's not a star lens?

There is no star lens with WR in the current lineup. It could be the first star lens with WR. But who knows?

rawr · 09-23-2015, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Winder

I can't believe marketing would let them put SDM on it.

Exactly. Even if this lens features improved technology, 'SDM' is an almost toxic abbreviation to many existing Pentax users. But then again, new Pentax users may not understand the stigma. Time will tell.

Mistral75 · 09-23-2015, 10:24 PM

If this lens is:

- a D FA and not a D FA★
- DC and not SDM and
- WR and not AW

it's because...

...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina!

................................

Jyrkira · 09-23-2015, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

If this lens is:

- a D FA and not a D FA★
- DC and not SDM and
- WR and not AW

it's because...

...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina!

................................

Pentax 16-50 is both star and aw. Still there is Tokina version of it.

Mistral75 · 09-23-2015, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Jyrkira

Pentax 16-50 is both star and aw. Still there is Tokina version of it.

Indeed but those are two different lenses based on the same optical formula, not a mere rebadge under another brand's name.

zapp · 09-23-2015, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Daikokuya

HD PENTAX-D FA 24-70mm F2.8ED SDM WR
WG-40（black or yellow)
WG-40 W（white or blue）

Those products are coming soon.

???????????HD PENTAX-D FA 24-70mm F2.8ED SDM WR????????? - ????info

Just like the 70-200
Just like the FF camera
...

A FF camera requires a 2.8/24-70 and a 2.8/70-200 or similar at start. Next will be a 1.4/85 (in the old days this used to be a 1.4/50). So what is the news here? Where is the lens is the question. Lens will be bigger and heavier than competition, but at similar quality level. Price will drop a couple months after introduction. Both zoom are in the road map.
This lens is not really missed before the FF Pentax is available - the 16-50 will sell badly from now on, in used condition it will be even worse.

Last edited by zapp; 09-23-2015 at 11:13 PM.

Daikokuya · 09-23-2015, 11:03 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Mistral75

If this lens is:

- a D FA and not a D FA★
- DC and not SDM and
- WR and not AW

it's because...

...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina!

................................

Tamron's 24-70mm has a ultrasonic motor, like Pentax's SDM, with a moisture protection which is called Kan'i-Bouteki in Japanese like Pentax's WR. In addition to that, Jun Hirakawa, Pentax's legendary lens maker, is a lead developer of Tamron's 24-70mm.

Is a bell ringing?

Mistral75 · 09-23-2015, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Daikokuya

Tamron's 24-70mm has a ultrasonic motor, like Pentax's SDM, with a moisture protection which is called Kan'i-Bouteki in Japanese like Pentax's WR. In addition to that, Jun Hirakawa, Pentax's legendary lens maker, is a lead developer of Tamron's 24-70mm.

Is a bell ringing?

Loud and clear!

**kiwi_jono** · 09-23-2015, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Daikokuya

Tamron's 24-70mm has a ultrasonic motor, like Pentax's SDM, with a moisture protection which is called Kan'i-Bouteki in Japanese like Pentax's WR. In addition to that, Jun Hirakawa, Pentax's legendary lens maker, is a lead developer of Tamron's 24-70mm.

Is a bell ringing?

All the same, they would be crazy to call it SDM (might get away with SDM II or such). Personally I would avoid buying it unless I was absolutely sure it was a different SDM.

kenspo · 09-23-2015, 11:30 PM

I even know the price

but full info in 27.5 hours

ogl · 09-23-2015, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

If this lens is:

...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina!

................................

Said not Tamron or Tokina

RonHendriks1966 · 09-24-2015, 01:18 AM

Would $1500 cover this?

kenspo · 09-24-2015, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Said not Tamron or Tokina

Said who?

Mistral75 · 09-24-2015, 01:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

Said who?

May I infer from your statement, combined with the one you made yesterday:

Originally posted by kenspo

Its NOT a Tokina!

that HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm f/2.8ED SDM WR is indeed a rebadged Tamron lens?

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09-23-2015, 09:26 PM - 1 Like	#16
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	Anyone else confused that it's not a star lens?

09-23-2015, 09:38 PM	#17
Daikokuya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 210 Original Poster	Originally posted by clawhammer Anyone else confused that it's not a star lens? There is no star lens with WR in the current lineup. It could be the first star lens with WR. But who knows?

09-23-2015, 09:46 PM	#18
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Winder I can't believe marketing would let them put SDM on it. Exactly. Even if this lens features improved technology, 'SDM' is an almost toxic abbreviation to many existing Pentax users. But then again, new Pentax users may not understand the stigma. Time will tell.

09-23-2015, 10:24 PM	#19
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	If this lens is: - a D FA and not a D FA★ - DC and not SDM and - WR and not AW it's because... ...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina! ................................

09-23-2015, 10:48 PM	#20
Jyrkira Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 215	Originally posted by Mistral75 If this lens is: - a D FA and not a D FA★ - DC and not SDM and - WR and not AW it's because... ...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina! ................................ Pentax 16-50 is both star and aw. Still there is Tokina version of it.

09-23-2015, 10:54 PM	#21
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Jyrkira Pentax 16-50 is both star and aw. Still there is Tokina version of it. Indeed but those are two different lenses based on the same optical formula, not a mere rebadge under another brand's name.

09-23-2015, 10:59 PM	#22
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,389	Originally posted by Daikokuya HD PENTAX-D FA 24-70mm F2.8ED SDM WR WG-40（black or yellow) WG-40 W（white or blue） Those products are coming soon. ???????????HD PENTAX-D FA 24-70mm F2.8ED SDM WR????????? - ????info Just like the 70-200 Just like the FF camera ... A FF camera requires a 2.8/24-70 and a 2.8/70-200 or similar at start. Next will be a 1.4/85 (in the old days this used to be a 1.4/50). So what is the news here? Where is the lens is the question. Lens will be bigger and heavier than competition, but at similar quality level. Price will drop a couple months after introduction. Both zoom are in the road map. This lens is not really missed before the FF Pentax is available - the 16-50 will sell badly from now on, in used condition it will be even worse. Last edited by zapp; 09-23-2015 at 11:13 PM.

09-23-2015, 11:03 PM - 2 Likes	#23
Daikokuya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 210 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mistral75 If this lens is: - a D FA and not a D FA★ - DC and not SDM and - WR and not AW it's because... ...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina! ................................ Tamron's 24-70mm has a ultrasonic motor, like Pentax's SDM, with a moisture protection which is called Kan'i-Bouteki in Japanese like Pentax's WR. In addition to that, Jun Hirakawa, Pentax's legendary lens maker, is a lead developer of Tamron's 24-70mm. Is a bell ringing?

09-23-2015, 11:05 PM	#24
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Daikokuya Tamron's 24-70mm has a ultrasonic motor, like Pentax's SDM, with a moisture protection which is called Kan'i-Bouteki in Japanese like Pentax's WR. In addition to that, Jun Hirakawa, Pentax's legendary lens maker, is a lead developer of Tamron's 24-70mm. Is a bell ringing? Loud and clear!

09-23-2015, 11:20 PM	#25
kiwi_jono Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,437	Originally posted by Daikokuya Tamron's 24-70mm has a ultrasonic motor, like Pentax's SDM, with a moisture protection which is called Kan'i-Bouteki in Japanese like Pentax's WR. In addition to that, Jun Hirakawa, Pentax's legendary lens maker, is a lead developer of Tamron's 24-70mm. Is a bell ringing? All the same, they would be crazy to call it SDM (might get away with SDM II or such). Personally I would avoid buying it unless I was absolutely sure it was a different SDM.

09-23-2015, 11:30 PM	#26
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	I even know the price but full info in 27.5 hours

09-23-2015, 11:58 PM	#27
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Mistral75 If this lens is: ...it's a rebadged Tamron/Tokina! ................................ Said not Tamron or Tokina

09-24-2015, 01:18 AM	#28
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Would $1500 cover this?

09-24-2015, 01:23 AM	#29
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ogl Said not Tamron or Tokina Said who?

09-24-2015, 01:30 AM - 1 Like	#30
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by kenspo Said who? May I infer from your statement, combined with the one you made yesterday: Originally posted by kenspo Its NOT a Tokina! that HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm f/2.8ED SDM WR is indeed a rebadged Tamron lens?

DFA 24-70mm to be launched soon

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