D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR Officially Announced

mee · 09-24-2015, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by sunshine7913

Pentax could do just make star version but normal version. I really don't understand this.

Why do you want it to be a Pentax design? Do you think it would be superior to this reworked Tamron at the same cost? They are trying to get this lens into the most hands as possible. Giving it a 2k+ price would not allow for this.

I'm sooo happy this isn't *that* expensive yet seems to be a decent performer. That means it is accessible to me.. one day.

Daikokuya · 09-24-2015, 05:55 PM

Tamron's 24-70mm is now priced at $770 at the lowest in the current exchange rate in Japan. I'm not sure what the domestic price is going to be, but the Japanese users wouldn't be happy even at $1300.

JinDesu · 09-24-2015, 06:02 PM

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/845350-REG/Tamron_SP_24_70mm_f_2_8_DI.html

The Tamron is $1100 USD over here, and that's after it's been out a while. I am betting that the DFA 24-70 will be $1100 on sale within 6 months, $1100 normal in 12, and $975 on sale in 12 months.

**jpzk** · 09-24-2015, 06:08 PM - **1 Like**

That is very good news.
There is now one more FF lens from Pentax --- so be it if it is not a "real" Pentax lens (pun intended for those who complain) --- to be had when the (FF) camera materializes.

Still, it amazes me to see complainers already, even some who will likely NOT get a FF camera.

JP

normhead · 09-24-2015, 06:10 PM

Was it designed by any fired Pentax designers we might know?

JinDesu · 09-24-2015, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Was it designed by any fired Pentax designers we might know?

What is this crazy thing you speak of. Pentax obviously chose to rebadge this lens because it was a terrible performer and Pentax sucks. It's not like this lens was worked on by Jun Hirakawa who is employed at Tamron.

normhead · 09-24-2015, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

What is this crazy thing you speak of. Pentax obviously chose to rebadge this lens because it was a terrible performer and Pentax sucks. It's not like this lens was worked on by Jun Hirakawa who is employed at Tamron.

The sad thing is, the only Tamron Lenses that seem to be coming our way are ones that are rebadged by Pentax. The Pentax name no doubt guarantees a certain number of sales, that maybe Tamron can't achieve on it's own. Which isn't surprising given the low regard much of the forum seems to hold these lenses. If you want to get shot down in flames, just suggest some Tamron lens might be decent.

Tesla · 09-24-2015, 06:20 PM - **2 Likes**

Always complainers.. even about the FF.. I'll only buy if OVF.. I'll only buy if EVF/mirroless.. I'll only buy if 42MP.. I'll only buy if 24MP.. I'll only buy if pop up flash or high flash sync... etc.

No matter what Pentax puts out, it will be a great FF!

JinDesu · 09-24-2015, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by normhead

The sad thing is, the only Tamron Lenses that seem to be coming our way are ones that are rebadged by Pentax. The Pentax name no doubt guarantees a certain number of sales, that maybe Tamron can't achieve on it's own. Which isn't surprising given the low regard much of the forum seems to hold these lenses. If you want to get shot down in flames, just suggest some Tamron lens might be decent.

I'm a user of the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 lol, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned and seen in use. So screw those people

Also had a Tamron 90 F2.8 macro and it was gorgeous.

Parallax · 09-24-2015, 06:24 PM - **10 Likes**

Originally posted by sunshine7913

I'm not talking about the price. I'm complain about Pentax. Why can't they make their own?

If you don't like Pentax don't buy Pentax.
Whether you like it or don't like it; buy it or don't buy it, DON'T TROLL US.

(That's not a request.

)

**jpzk** · 09-24-2015, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

I'm a user of the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 lol, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned and seen in use. So screw those people

Also had a Tamron 90 F2.8 macro and it was gorgeous.

Yep !
Same here: used to have both but sold them to fund something else.
Great lenses.

**ramseybuckeye** · 09-24-2015, 06:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by JinDesu

I'm a user of the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 lol, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned and seen in use. So screw those people

Also had a Tamron 90 F2.8 macro and it was gorgeous.

Originally posted by jpzk

Yep !
Same here: used to have both but sold them to fund something else.
Great lenses.

I have a great Tamron 70-200 also and love it. I've also got an old Tamron 28-105 that's a really fine lens, oh yea, that comes with a Pentax badge too.

mee · 09-24-2015, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/845339-REG/Tamron_SP_24_70mm_f_2_8_DI.html?

The Tamron is $1100 USD over here, and that's after it's been out a while. I am betting that the DFA 24-70 will be $1100 on sale within 6 months, $1100 normal in 12, and $975 on sale in 12 months.

That is with a rebate. It is 1300 otherwise.

JinDesu · 09-24-2015, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by mee

That is with a rebate. It is 1300 otherwise.

Tamron and Sigma have a tendency to have semi-permanent rebates. Good for consumers, confusing for everyone else.

**Mikesul** · 09-24-2015, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by sunshine7913

Explained? I don't see any explanation. They could just name is star lens. They made too complicated situation now.

I will give it one try only. Adding a star means something about quality and WR. It would cost more and perhaps take longer. There may be other reasons but they are not interesting or important. This is the lens they will sell for now.

---------- Post added 09-24-15 at 06:58 PM ----------

Originally posted by Parallax

If you don't like Pentax don't buy Pentax.
Whether you like it or don't like it; buy it or don't buy it, DON'T TROLL US.

(That's not a request.

)

Nice. Thanks!

09-24-2015, 06:02 PM	#33
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/845350-REG/Tamron_SP_24_70mm_f_2_8_DI.html The Tamron is $1100 USD over here, and that's after it's been out a while. I am betting that the DFA 24-70 will be $1100 on sale within 6 months, $1100 normal in 12, and $975 on sale in 12 months. Last edited by JinDesu; 09-24-2015 at 07:42 PM.

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09-24-2015, 05:47 PM	#31
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by sunshine7913 Pentax could do just make star version but normal version. I really don't understand this. Why do you want it to be a Pentax design? Do you think it would be superior to this reworked Tamron at the same cost? They are trying to get this lens into the most hands as possible. Giving it a 2k+ price would not allow for this. I'm sooo happy this isn't that expensive yet seems to be a decent performer. That means it is accessible to me.. one day.

09-24-2015, 05:55 PM	#32
Daikokuya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 210	Tamron's 24-70mm is now priced at $770 at the lowest in the current exchange rate in Japan. I'm not sure what the domestic price is going to be, but the Japanese users wouldn't be happy even at $1300.

09-24-2015, 06:08 PM - 1 Like	#34
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	That is very good news. There is now one more FF lens from Pentax --- so be it if it is not a "real" Pentax lens (pun intended for those who complain) --- to be had when the (FF) camera materializes. Still, it amazes me to see complainers already, even some who will likely NOT get a FF camera. JP

09-24-2015, 06:10 PM	#35
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,450	Was it designed by any fired Pentax designers we might know?

09-24-2015, 06:12 PM	#36
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by normhead Was it designed by any fired Pentax designers we might know? What is this crazy thing you speak of. Pentax obviously chose to rebadge this lens because it was a terrible performer and Pentax sucks. It's not like this lens was worked on by Jun Hirakawa who is employed at Tamron.

09-24-2015, 06:18 PM	#37
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,450	Originally posted by JinDesu What is this crazy thing you speak of. Pentax obviously chose to rebadge this lens because it was a terrible performer and Pentax sucks. It's not like this lens was worked on by Jun Hirakawa who is employed at Tamron. The sad thing is, the only Tamron Lenses that seem to be coming our way are ones that are rebadged by Pentax. The Pentax name no doubt guarantees a certain number of sales, that maybe Tamron can't achieve on it's own. Which isn't surprising given the low regard much of the forum seems to hold these lenses. If you want to get shot down in flames, just suggest some Tamron lens might be decent.

09-24-2015, 06:20 PM - 2 Likes	#38
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	Always complainers.. even about the FF.. I'll only buy if OVF.. I'll only buy if EVF/mirroless.. I'll only buy if 42MP.. I'll only buy if 24MP.. I'll only buy if pop up flash or high flash sync... etc. No matter what Pentax puts out, it will be a great FF!

09-24-2015, 06:20 PM	#39
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by normhead The sad thing is, the only Tamron Lenses that seem to be coming our way are ones that are rebadged by Pentax. The Pentax name no doubt guarantees a certain number of sales, that maybe Tamron can't achieve on it's own. Which isn't surprising given the low regard much of the forum seems to hold these lenses. If you want to get shot down in flames, just suggest some Tamron lens might be decent. I'm a user of the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 lol, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned and seen in use. So screw those people Also had a Tamron 90 F2.8 macro and it was gorgeous.

09-24-2015, 06:24 PM - 10 Likes	#40
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by sunshine7913 I'm not talking about the price. I'm complain about Pentax. Why can't they make their own? If you don't like Pentax don't buy Pentax. Whether you like it or don't like it; buy it or don't buy it, DON'T TROLL US. (That's not a request. )

09-24-2015, 06:29 PM	#41
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by JinDesu I'm a user of the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 lol, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned and seen in use. So screw those people Also had a Tamron 90 F2.8 macro and it was gorgeous. Yep ! Same here: used to have both but sold them to fund something else. Great lenses.

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09-24-2015, 06:32 PM - 1 Like	#42
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,288	Originally posted by JinDesu I'm a user of the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 lol, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned and seen in use. So screw those people Also had a Tamron 90 F2.8 macro and it was gorgeous. Originally posted by jpzk Yep ! Same here: used to have both but sold them to fund something else. Great lenses. I have a great Tamron 70-200 also and love it. I've also got an old Tamron 28-105 that's a really fine lens, oh yea, that comes with a Pentax badge too.

09-24-2015, 06:52 PM	#43
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by JinDesu http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/845339-REG/Tamron_SP_24_70mm_f_2_8_DI.html? The Tamron is $1100 USD over here, and that's after it's been out a while. I am betting that the DFA 24-70 will be $1100 on sale within 6 months, $1100 normal in 12, and $975 on sale in 12 months. That is with a rebate. It is 1300 otherwise.

09-24-2015, 06:55 PM	#44
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by mee That is with a rebate. It is 1300 otherwise. Tamron and Sigma have a tendency to have semi-permanent rebates. Good for consumers, confusing for everyone else.

09-24-2015, 06:55 PM	#45
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by sunshine7913 Explained? I don't see any explanation. They could just name is star lens. They made too complicated situation now. I will give it one try only. Adding a star means something about quality and WR. It would cost more and perhaps take longer. There may be other reasons but they are not interesting or important. This is the lens they will sell for now. ---------- Post added 09-24-15 at 06:58 PM ---------- Originally posted by Parallax If you don't like Pentax don't buy Pentax. Whether you like it or don't like it; buy it or don't buy it, DON'T TROLL US. (That's not a request. ) Nice. Thanks!