Final Countdown to Feb 25th 2016 (CP+ 2016)

starjedi · 01-28-2016, 10:40 AM

20 days to go.

Imp · 01-28-2016, 11:00 AM

21 days

rawr · 01-28-2016, 11:03 AM

The EXIF for the latest sample scene [night stars] on the teaser site says:

Creator Tool: Digital Camera Utility 5 Ver.5.5.0

So that's the version of PDCU that will probably ship with the camera. Since the current version of PDCU is v5.4.2, it doesn't sound like it will represent much of an update.

**jatrax** · 01-28-2016, 11:22 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by iudex

So the kit zoom should be optically decent and not too slow, something like 24-105/4 (many buyers would keep such lens).

I don't care if it is called a kit lens or whatever. I want an amazing 24-105 f/4.

Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-24-105mm-USM-Lens-Cameras/dp/B000AZ57M6/ref=sr_1...is+usm+af+lens
http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-24-120mm-Vibration-Reduction-Cameras/dp/B003ZSHN...on+24-120mm+f4

Maybe these are not 'kit' lenses. But on the flagship FF, these are what should be the 'kit' lens. I hope Pentax comes up with something similar. For me, and I think a lot of landscape shooters f/2.8 (and the weight that goes with it) is not needed. An optically superb f/4 is just fine.

ogl · 01-28-2016, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

I don't care if it is called a kit lens or whatever. I want an amazing 24-105 f/4.

I doubt you will ever see such lens from Pentax

28-105/3.5-4.5 or 28-135/3.5-5.6 or 28-105/4-5.6 or even 28-200/3.5-5.6...I can believe.

24-120/4 - no...

I think FF zoom lenses till 200-300 mm will be like this

15-30/2.8 - 24-70/2.8 - 70-200/2.8

cheap versions
18-35/4-5.6 - 28-135/3.5-5.6 - 70-300/4.5-5.6

kenspo · 01-28-2016, 12:08 PM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by ogl

I doubt you will ever see such lens from Pentax

Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans.

Zygonyx · 01-28-2016, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans.

Ken, don't talk too much please

beholder3 · 01-28-2016, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

I don't care if it is called a kit lens or whatever. I want an amazing 24-105 f/4.

Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-24-105mm-USM-Lens-Cameras/dp/B000AZ57M6/ref=sr_1...is+usm+af+lens
Amazon.com : Nikon AF-S FX NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED Vibration Reduction Zoom Lens with Auto Focus for Nikon DSLR Cameras : Camera Lenses : Electronics

Maybe these are not 'kit' lenses. But on the flagship FF, these are what should be the 'kit' lens. I hope Pentax comes up with something similar. For me, and I think a lot of landscape shooters f/2.8 (and the weight that goes with it) is not needed. An optically superb f/4 is just fine.

If your standards are so low, I bet they will be met.

The Canon L is meh at best and the Nikon, is, well...
It's right on par with the DA*16-50 with the poor aspect being it's a full stop slower (so should be much easier to yield better results) and costs +40%, but still doesn't perform any better (vignetting is really bad). So price/performance wise it's half as good as the DA*16-50. And the latter already has critics.

No wonder Nikon customers are running away in huge amounts (-50% in Japan last year).

I am positive any new Pentax kit lens will outperform that.

kenspo · 01-28-2016, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Ken, don't talk too much please

Hehe..will try not to..maybe

thibs · 01-28-2016, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans.

rotfl

troenaas · 01-28-2016, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans.

Don´t do that. That lens is on my wish list... ;-)

**jatrax** · 01-28-2016, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans.

No, no please just keep quiet. Well, mostly quiet

Originally posted by beholder3

If your standards are so low, I bet they will be met.

Well, those are the preferred lenses of many landscape shooters I respect, but that's all I know about them. I just figured if those folks can make money shooting pretty pictures with them then they must be OK. But what do I know.

Anyway, I still have no use for a big heavy 24-70 f/2.8. I want a nice 24-105 or 115 or 120 or whatever with a constant f/4 aperture that does not weigh very much. Something with the same design philosophy as the old Pentax-F 24-50 f/4.

mee · 01-28-2016, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

Hehe..will try not to..maybe

So you are confirming a 24-105 f/4 in Pentax livery?

**Pål Jensen** · 01-28-2016, 03:37 PM

A 24-105/4 is the only zoom lens for the K-1, in addition to the 150-450, that interests me (a lot BTW!). I don't need a max aperture of 2.8 in a zoom lens; rather have extra reach.
I also want a 24/1.4 for night time shooting...

kenspo · 01-28-2016, 03:37 PM

Im not confirming anything anymore, but i know it has been talked about

01-28-2016, 12:05 PM	#410
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by jatrax I don't care if it is called a kit lens or whatever. I want an amazing 24-105 f/4. I doubt you will ever see such lens from Pentax 28-105/3.5-4.5 or 28-135/3.5-5.6 or 28-105/4-5.6 or even 28-200/3.5-5.6...I can believe. 24-120/4 - no... I think FF zoom lenses till 200-300 mm will be like this 15-30/2.8 - 24-70/2.8 - 70-200/2.8 cheap versions 18-35/4-5.6 - 28-135/3.5-5.6 - 70-300/4.5-5.6 Last edited by ogl; 01-28-2016 at 12:12 PM.

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01-28-2016, 11:03 AM	#408
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	The EXIF for the latest sample scene [night stars] on the teaser site says: Creator Tool: Digital Camera Utility 5 Ver.5.5.0 So that's the version of PDCU that will probably ship with the camera. Since the current version of PDCU is v5.4.2, it doesn't sound like it will represent much of an update.

01-28-2016, 11:22 AM - 4 Likes	#409
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by iudex So the kit zoom should be optically decent and not too slow, something like 24-105/4 (many buyers would keep such lens). I don't care if it is called a kit lens or whatever. I want an amazing 24-105 f/4. Like this: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-24-105mm-USM-Lens-Cameras/dp/B000AZ57M6/ref=sr_1...is+usm+af+lens http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-24-120mm-Vibration-Reduction-Cameras/dp/B003ZSHN...on+24-120mm+f4 Maybe these are not 'kit' lenses. But on the flagship FF, these are what should be the 'kit' lens. I hope Pentax comes up with something similar. For me, and I think a lot of landscape shooters f/2.8 (and the weight that goes with it) is not needed. An optically superb f/4 is just fine.

01-28-2016, 12:08 PM - 7 Likes	#411
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ogl I doubt you will ever see such lens from Pentax Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans.

01-28-2016, 12:19 PM	#412
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by kenspo Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans. Ken, don't talk too much please

01-28-2016, 12:23 PM	#413
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by jatrax I don't care if it is called a kit lens or whatever. I want an amazing 24-105 f/4. Like this: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-24-105mm-USM-Lens-Cameras/dp/B000AZ57M6/ref=sr_1...is+usm+af+lens Amazon.com : Nikon AF-S FX NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED Vibration Reduction Zoom Lens with Auto Focus for Nikon DSLR Cameras : Camera Lenses : Electronics Maybe these are not 'kit' lenses. But on the flagship FF, these are what should be the 'kit' lens. I hope Pentax comes up with something similar. For me, and I think a lot of landscape shooters f/2.8 (and the weight that goes with it) is not needed. An optically superb f/4 is just fine. If your standards are so low, I bet they will be met. The Canon L is meh at best and the Nikon, is, well... It's right on par with the DA16-50 with the poor aspect being it's a full stop slower (so should be much easier to yield better results) and costs +40%, but still doesn't perform any better (vignetting is really bad). So price/performance wise it's half as good as the DA16-50. And the latter already has critics. No wonder Nikon customers are running away in huge amounts (-50% in Japan last year). I am positive any new Pentax kit lens will outperform that.

01-28-2016, 12:24 PM	#414
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Zygonyx Ken, don't talk too much please Hehe..will try not to..maybe

01-28-2016, 12:26 PM	#415
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by kenspo ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans. rotfl

01-28-2016, 12:27 PM	#416
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by kenspo Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans. Don´t do that. That lens is on my wish list... ;-)

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01-28-2016, 01:18 PM	#417
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by kenspo Ok, since you say so, i will tell them to get it out of their plans. No, no please just keep quiet. Well, mostly quiet Originally posted by beholder3 If your standards are so low, I bet they will be met. Well, those are the preferred lenses of many landscape shooters I respect, but that's all I know about them. I just figured if those folks can make money shooting pretty pictures with them then they must be OK. But what do I know. Anyway, I still have no use for a big heavy 24-70 f/2.8. I want a nice 24-105 or 115 or 120 or whatever with a constant f/4 aperture that does not weigh very much. Something with the same design philosophy as the old Pentax-F 24-50 f/4.

01-28-2016, 03:10 PM	#418
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by kenspo Hehe..will try not to..maybe So you are confirming a 24-105 f/4 in Pentax livery?

01-28-2016, 03:37 PM	#419
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	A 24-105/4 is the only zoom lens for the K-1, in addition to the 150-450, that interests me (a lot BTW!). I don't need a max aperture of 2.8 in a zoom lens; rather have extra reach. I also want a 24/1.4 for night time shooting...

01-28-2016, 03:37 PM	#420
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Im not confirming anything anymore, but i know it has been talked about