Final Countdown to Feb 25th 2016 (CP+ 2016)

kenspo · 01-29-2016, 04:59 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ffking

but that would push the entry price up a lot for people who didn't have old FF lenses -there would surely have to be some ordinary available for people who don't need or don't want and f/2.8?

As i also have said before, this first FF have another target group..They want the pros..so they have to deliver a camera and lenses that do so..Thats also why they signed me in the first place! And its easier to get serious photographers and hobby photographers to buy buy pro gear, then to get a pro to buy hobby gear! If you understand. The catalogue will expand, also on FF lenses, but the pro ones is prioritised first.

**ffking** · 01-29-2016, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

As i also have said before, this first FF have another target group..They want the pros..so they have to deliver a camera and lenses that do so..Thats also why they signed me in the first place! And its easier to get serious photographers and hobby photographers to buy buy pro gear, then to get a pro to buy hobby gear! If you understand. The catalogue will expand, also on FF lenses, but the pro ones is prioritised first.

As long as the camera justifies the strategy, that's fine by me

kenspo · 01-29-2016, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by ffking

As long as the camera justifies the strategy, that's fine by me

It will! It has a few WOW factors

**ffking** · 01-29-2016, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

It will! It has a few WOW factors

Look - I can't afford one and I've being trying (unconvincingly) to convince myself I don't want one - you're not helping!!

kenspo · 01-29-2016, 05:12 AM

haha..sorry mate :P

Zygonyx · 01-29-2016, 05:20 AM

WOW factors seem rather interesting news

gorme · 01-29-2016, 05:22 AM

I hope we will see some WOW lenses too

**WPRESTO** · 01-29-2016, 05:39 AM

Wonder if initially the K1 will be issued in a kit with the 24~70. That would add at least $1000 to the price. PAIN!

Cynog Ap Brychan · 01-29-2016, 05:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

As i also have said before, this first FF have another target group..They want the pros

Then I'm afraid I'm going to spoil their plans. I'm a complete amateur, but I'm going to buy it!

beholder3 · 01-29-2016, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by fuzzyfelt30

I'm hoping for a quality walkaround zoom in the Nikon 24-120mm range.....I have the Nikon on a D750 and whilst it is not a super sharp lens, it is pretty good, significantly better than my copy of the da* 16-50mm that was great in the centre but soft over about 20% of the frame on the right hand side and in the corners (I sent it away for repair and was told there was nothing wrong with it)!! The 24-120 also cost me less than £380 new (the da* 16-50 was nearly £500 secondhand), so I'm not sure where you get a 40% higher price and it ,therefore, being half as good?? For me, 24-120 covers at least 80% of my shooting needs so it would be ideal, as well as for many others I suspect, as long as the image quality is there! It doesn't need to compete with the best primes but it does need to be at least as good as my Nikon copy!!

As the Nikon obviously is no match for even the DA* 16-50 I think so low expectations are easy to fullfill. The DA* 16-50 is there today already at a bargain price (compared what you have to pay for the slow F4 kit Nikon with all its weaknesses and lacking weather resistance). If it was sold at $120 new outside kits, maybe it was ok. For $1000 it's a sad joke.

kenspo · 01-29-2016, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

Then I'm afraid I'm going to spoil their plans. I'm a complete amateur, but I'm going to buy it!

Perfect..and a good choice! Even if they are targeting pros now, isn't the same as others can't buy it

Simen1 · 01-29-2016, 06:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ogl

To many wishes....Even 24/1.4..
I think it will never be...

Sigma really has to rethink the Pentax boycott. I want the 20mm f/1.4

**WPRESTO** · 01-29-2016, 06:33 AM

Wasn't the LX intended to be a pro-SLR? How many of us owned one? Me for one.

kenspo · 01-29-2016, 06:35 AM

I didn't say that non-pros couldn't buy it, but you won't reach pros with hobby gear..you got it?

Kunzite · 01-29-2016, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Wonder if initially the K1 will be issued in a kit with the 24~70. That would add at least $1000 to the price. PAIN!

There will obviously be a body-only version. As always.

01-29-2016, 05:20 AM	#441
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	WOW factors seem rather interesting news Last edited by Zygonyx; 01-29-2016 at 08:14 AM.

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01-29-2016, 04:59 AM - 1 Like	#436
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ffking but that would push the entry price up a lot for people who didn't have old FF lenses -there would surely have to be some ordinary available for people who don't need or don't want and f/2.8? As i also have said before, this first FF have another target group..They want the pros..so they have to deliver a camera and lenses that do so..Thats also why they signed me in the first place! And its easier to get serious photographers and hobby photographers to buy buy pro gear, then to get a pro to buy hobby gear! If you understand. The catalogue will expand, also on FF lenses, but the pro ones is prioritised first.

01-29-2016, 05:03 AM	#437
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by kenspo As i also have said before, this first FF have another target group..They want the pros..so they have to deliver a camera and lenses that do so..Thats also why they signed me in the first place! And its easier to get serious photographers and hobby photographers to buy buy pro gear, then to get a pro to buy hobby gear! If you understand. The catalogue will expand, also on FF lenses, but the pro ones is prioritised first. As long as the camera justifies the strategy, that's fine by me

01-29-2016, 05:05 AM	#438
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ffking As long as the camera justifies the strategy, that's fine by me It will! It has a few WOW factors

01-29-2016, 05:12 AM	#439
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by kenspo It will! It has a few WOW factors Look - I can't afford one and I've being trying (unconvincingly) to convince myself I don't want one - you're not helping!!

01-29-2016, 05:12 AM	#440
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	haha..sorry mate :P

01-29-2016, 05:22 AM	#442
gorme Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Galway - Ireland Posts: 213	I hope we will see some WOW lenses too

01-29-2016, 05:39 AM	#443
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,107	Wonder if initially the K1 will be issued in a kit with the 24~70. That would add at least $1000 to the price. PAIN!

01-29-2016, 05:41 AM - 1 Like	#444
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by kenspo As i also have said before, this first FF have another target group..They want the pros Then I'm afraid I'm going to spoil their plans. I'm a complete amateur, but I'm going to buy it!

01-29-2016, 05:42 AM	#445
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by fuzzyfelt30 I'm hoping for a quality walkaround zoom in the Nikon 24-120mm range.....I have the Nikon on a D750 and whilst it is not a super sharp lens, it is pretty good, significantly better than my copy of the da* 16-50mm that was great in the centre but soft over about 20% of the frame on the right hand side and in the corners (I sent it away for repair and was told there was nothing wrong with it)!! The 24-120 also cost me less than £380 new (the da* 16-50 was nearly £500 secondhand), so I'm not sure where you get a 40% higher price and it ,therefore, being half as good?? For me, 24-120 covers at least 80% of my shooting needs so it would be ideal, as well as for many others I suspect, as long as the image quality is there! It doesn't need to compete with the best primes but it does need to be at least as good as my Nikon copy!! As the Nikon obviously is no match for even the DA* 16-50 I think so low expectations are easy to fullfill. The DA* 16-50 is there today already at a bargain price (compared what you have to pay for the slow F4 kit Nikon with all its weaknesses and lacking weather resistance). If it was sold at $120 new outside kits, maybe it was ok. For $1000 it's a sad joke.

01-29-2016, 05:46 AM	#446
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Then I'm afraid I'm going to spoil their plans. I'm a complete amateur, but I'm going to buy it! Perfect..and a good choice! Even if they are targeting pros now, isn't the same as others can't buy it

01-29-2016, 06:33 AM - 1 Like	#447
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by ogl To many wishes....Even 24/1.4.. I think it will never be... Sigma really has to rethink the Pentax boycott. I want the 20mm f/1.4

01-29-2016, 06:33 AM	#448
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,107	Wasn't the LX intended to be a pro-SLR? How many of us owned one? Me for one.

01-29-2016, 06:35 AM	#449
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	I didn't say that non-pros couldn't buy it, but you won't reach pros with hobby gear..you got it?

01-29-2016, 06:35 AM	#450
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by WPRESTO Wonder if initially the K1 will be issued in a kit with the 24~70. That would add at least $1000 to the price. PAIN! There will obviously be a body-only version. As always.