[D1N0]

Pentax will wait with mirrorless until after Canon and Nikon have shown their camera's and then make a better system

[iudex]

Pentax will wait with mirrorless until after Canon and Nikon have shown their camera's and then make a better system

Well after the K-01 and Q system Ricoh better aviods mirrorless ;-)

[LilithBaerchen]

Well after the K-01 and Q system Ricoh better aviods mirrorless ;-)

Don´t say anything bad about the Q - it´s a beautiful camera

[Zygonyx]

Don't say anything bad about K-01 concept, it's a smart invention.

[iudex]

Don´t say anything bad about the Q - it´s a beautiful camera

Maybe it is, but it´s not a mirrorless system someone takes seriously. Teenage Japanese girls like and buy it, but with it´s tiny sensor it competes with smartphones and not with other mirrorless cameras. And entering mirrorless segment (APSC, 4/3, FF) is a bit too late and for a small company like Ricoh also financially unbearable.

[D1N0]

Maybe it is, but it´s not a mirrorless system someone takes seriously. Teenage Japanese girls like and buy it, but with it´s tiny sensor it competes with smartphones and not with other mirrorless cameras. And entering mirrorless segment (APSC, 4/3, FF) is a bit too late and for a small company like Ricoh also financially unbearable.

Assumptions assumptions. What's so hard about mirrorless? The technology is more simple than dslr because it is mostly electronic. The worst part is the lenses. You need an entire new line up. And q users are Japanese girls? A lot of Q-users are DSLR shooters, who have it as a pocketable take anywhere camera.

[Cynog Ap Brychan]

Maybe it is, but it´s not a mirrorless system someone takes seriously. Teenage Japanese girls like and buy it, but with it´s tiny sensor it competes with smartphones and not with other mirrorless cameras. And entering mirrorless segment (APSC, 4/3, FF) is a bit too late and for a small company like Ricoh also financially unbearable.

I take it seriously, and I don't think Ricoh is a small company, either.

[iudex]

Assumptions assumptions. What's so hard about mirrorless? The technology is more simple than dslr because it is mostly electronic. The worst part is the lenses. You need an entire new line up. And q users are Japanese girls? A lot of Q-users are DSLR shooters, who have it as a pocketable take anywhere camera.

No assumptions, have a look at sales numbers. That you know a couple of Pentaxians (itself a small group compared to C/N owners) who happen to buy the Q (as a toy mostly) says nothing. Even highly respected mirrorless producers liky Fuji have hard times selling sufficient number of cameras and achieving profit (Olympus was producing loss untill 2014?). So entering a small, but highly competitive market and being succesful is tough. And as you say: it´s about lenses: Ricoh has to concentrate now on FF DSLR lenses, it surely has no funds to develop completely new portfolio of mirrorless lenses. And the K-01 system (mirrorless using DSLR lenses) was a clear flop, even Ricoh admits this.

[D1N0]

No assumptions, have a look at sales numbers. That you know a couple of Pentaxians (itself a small group compared to C/N owners) who happen to buy the Q (as a toy mostly) says nothing. Even highly respected mirrorless producers liky Fuji have hard times selling sufficient number of cameras and achieving profit (Olympus was producing loss untill 2014?). So entering a small, but highly competitive market and being succesful is tough. And as you say: it´s about lenses: Ricoh has to concentrate now on FF DSLR lenses, it surely has no funds to develop completely new portfolio of mirrorless lenses. And the K-01 system (mirrorless using DSLR lenses) was a clear flop, even Ricoh admits this.

You look at sales figures and see Japanese girls. That is an assumption. Pentax and Ricoh have a name in photography so it is never too late to jump into mirrorless. The GXR system was a mirrorless system remember? They will focus on DSLR's for now but there is a mirrorless plan which will be set into motion once Canon and Nikon put their cards on the Table.

[iudex]

I don't think Ricoh is a small company, either.

And how would you describe a company which market share is 4,5% ( DSLR sales in 2015; compare to Canon: 54,7% and Nikon 39,1%)?

[starjedi]

And how would you describe a company which market share is 4,5% ( DSLR sales in 2015; compare to Canon: 54,7% and Nikon 39,1%)?

Ricoh is a big company. Just Pentax it bought is small..

[Simen1]

Well after the K-01 and Q system Ricoh better aviods mirrorless ;-)

No, but they better subtract Mark Newson and add EVF and Wifi.

[sudhirmadan]

Ugh, I need to stop following this thread. The anticipation is killing me!

Funny thing is, the only question I have for the FF is this: Will it come in gunmetal (or even silver)? I regretted being an early adopter of the K-3 only because the gunmetal version that released later looked so nice. The K-3 was more camera than I really wanted/needed.

Oh, and I don't remember seeing info on whether or not it's weather resistant.

Other than that, my money and I are ready for it!

ok guys, here we go, let me put an end to your miseries- the D'Day is 19th and don't forget to drop me a thank you note on 19th please

---------- Post added 02-10-16 at 06:43 AM ----------

19th Feb 2016 to be more precise!

[D1N0]

it's the 25th

[thibs]

And how would you describe a company which market share is 4,5% ( DSLR sales in 2015; compare to Canon: 54,7% and Nikon 39,1%)?

... while making money? A lot better than a huge one bleeding.

I would not be surprised at all if the Q did bring better ROI than Samsung's mirrorless effort.