Final Countdown to Feb 25th 2016 (CP+ 2016)

**WPRESTO** · 02-12-2016, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by gorme

I must admit that using a 150-450mm to shoot cows is a very weird marketing idea... I have nothing against cows but I can't help thinking that the bears of the Nikon D5 promotion video are more 'sexy' subjects for a telephoto lens...

Might have been worse. Instead of a cow, the subject could have been a jack---

timautin · 02-12-2016, 06:42 AM

Quote:

I hope that the new lens roadmap to be announced will include a fast 500mm+ prime tele with this prefocus mode!

+1 ... 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4 & 600 f4 are really missing IMHO. Just as FF-friendly UWA primes.

gorme · 02-12-2016, 06:43 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by timautin

+1 ... 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4 & 600 f4 are really missing IMHO. Just as FF-friendly UWA primes.

We can even add a 200mm f/2.0 to this list

**WPRESTO** · 02-12-2016, 06:54 AM

I think we may see some of those UWA optics first. Maybe a reworking of the 20~35*, a new SFL in the the under 20mm range (hopefully something a bit more compact than old FF 15mm), and maybe a new 24mm f2.8 (I doubt they'll attempt a 24mm f2-1.8 because the price point would probably be too high). A 20 or 21mm as compact as the 15mm DA would be exciting, in fact, I suspect there would be a long pre-order waiting list.

* Had one of these for my AF film cameras. It was good, but not outstanding. Edges were disappointing unless well stopped down. I would not go after a used one for the K1.

i5_david · 02-12-2016, 07:10 AM - **2 Likes**

Reading this and all the specs confirmed and known... boy this cam will be a winner!!! Can't wait to try it somewhere at the dealer and play around with. Fingers crossed for a cool kit offer with 24-70 tamron and I will get weak! All those years we waited and now it's around the corner! Great time to be a pentaxian hahaha

redpit · 02-12-2016, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by timautin

+1 ... 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4 & 600 f4 are really missing IMHO. Just as FF-friendly UWA primes.

Originally posted by gorme

We can even add a 200mm f/2.0 to this list

I agree with both of you! I would prefer that they start from the 600/f4 going down but the 200/f2 would be really wonderful too (and needed also!)

Zav · 02-12-2016, 07:28 AM - **1 Like**

I could do with a cheap and small 50 1.7 HD DC WR...

timautin · 02-12-2016, 07:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Zav

I could do with a cheap and small 50 1.7 HD DC WR...

Lol please, please not an OTHER 50 or so mm ^^. Look at the current FF primes line up:
- 31 f1.8
- 35 f2
- 35 f2.4 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 40 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 43 f1.9
- 50 f1.4
- 50 f1.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 50 f2.8
- 55 f1.4
- 70 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 77 f1.8
- 100 f2.8
- 200 f2.8
- 300 f4
- 560 f5.6 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working with a little vignetting)

12 lenses out of 15 are in the 31-100mm range, and 6 are in the 40-55. 3 of them are 50mm.
I really hope we are not about getting a 52mm f1.57

D1N0 · 02-12-2016, 07:34 AM - **1 Like**

You forgot the 70mm F2.4

Obviously There is a need for a 20,24 and 28 Maybe the old FA's will gain in value.

timautin · 02-12-2016, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

You forgot the 70mm F2.4

Yep, and the 40mm f2.8, I didn't know they were compatible. I added them, thanks!

Originally posted by D1N0

Obviously There is a need for a 20,24 and 28 Maybe the old FA's will gain in value.

Or even wider, let's be crazy

. But 20 would already be great. Still, as the 15-30 is already announced, I think that long telephoto primes are what lacks the most. But being a wildlife photographer, I may not be really objective

Simen1 · 02-12-2016, 07:50 AM

The FA 50/1,4 should be updated with HD coatings to a D-FA variety with WR and modernized look. It should be an optional kit lens for the K-1.

timautin · 02-12-2016, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Simen1

The FA 50/1,4 should be updated with HD coatings to a D-FA variety with WR and modernized look. It should be an optional kit lens for the K-1.

Pentax is doomed :'(

**WPRESTO** · 02-12-2016, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by timautin

Lol please, please not an OTHER 50 or so mm ^^. Look at the current FF primes line up:
- 31 f1.8
- 35 f2
- 35 f2.4 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 40 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 43 f1.9
- 50 f1.4
- 50 f1.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 50 f2.8
- 55 f1.4
- 70 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 77 f1.8
- 100 f2.8
- 200 f2.8
- 300 f4
- 560 f5.6 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working with a little vignetting)

12 lenses out of 15 are in the 31-100mm range, and 6 are in the 40-55. 3 of them are 50mm.
I really hope we are not about getting a 52mm f1.57

I made this complaint way back (more than a year) about introducing yet another zoom or SFL in or overlapping the 28~100mm range. I suppose this is the range most used for images, but all the same additions to the extreme focal lengths are what stir excitement (if not purchases).

timautin · 02-12-2016, 08:20 AM

Yep, if they want to attract professionals, the brand image & prestige is important. A brand new 50mm 1.4 won't have a huge impact, if any. A HD Pentax-D FA* 600mm f4ED DC AW (sounds lovely, right?

) or a 14mm f2.8 will.

DagT · 02-12-2016, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by timautin

Lol please, please not an OTHER 50 or so mm ^^. Look at the current FF primes line up:
- 31 f1.8
- 35 f2
- 35 f2.4 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 40 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 43 f1.9
- 50 f1.4
- 50 f1.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 50 f2.8
- 55 f1.4
- 70 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working)
- 77 f1.8
- 100 f2.8
- 200 f2.8
- 300 f4
- 560 f5.6 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working with a little vignetting)

12 lenses out of 15 are in the 31-100mm range, and 6 are in the 40-55. 3 of them are 50mm.
I really hope we are not about getting a 52mm f1.57

I agree. If I should buy a K-1 I would want a new D-FA24mm f/2.0 or similar.

02-12-2016, 07:32 AM - 1 Like	#1103
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	Originally posted by Zav I could do with a cheap and small 50 1.7 HD DC WR... Lol please, please not an OTHER 50 or so mm ^^. Look at the current FF primes line up: - 31 f1.8 - 35 f2 - 35 f2.4 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 40 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 43 f1.9 - 50 f1.4 - 50 f1.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 50 f2.8 - 55 f1.4 - 70 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 77 f1.8 - 100 f2.8 - 200 f2.8 - 300 f4 - 560 f5.6 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working with a little vignetting) 12 lenses out of 15 are in the 31-100mm range, and 6 are in the 40-55. 3 of them are 50mm. I really hope we are not about getting a 52mm f1.57 Last edited by timautin; 02-12-2016 at 07:49 AM.

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02-12-2016, 06:38 AM	#1096
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,107	Originally posted by gorme I must admit that using a 150-450mm to shoot cows is a very weird marketing idea... I have nothing against cows but I can't help thinking that the bears of the Nikon D5 promotion video are more 'sexy' subjects for a telephoto lens... Might have been worse. Instead of a cow, the subject could have been a jack---

02-12-2016, 06:42 AM	#1097
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	Quote: I hope that the new lens roadmap to be announced will include a fast 500mm+ prime tele with this prefocus mode! +1 ... 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4 & 600 f4 are really missing IMHO. Just as FF-friendly UWA primes.

02-12-2016, 06:43 AM - 1 Like	#1098
gorme Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Galway - Ireland Posts: 213	Originally posted by timautin +1 ... 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4 & 600 f4 are really missing IMHO. Just as FF-friendly UWA primes. We can even add a 200mm f/2.0 to this list

02-12-2016, 06:54 AM	#1099
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,107	I think we may see some of those UWA optics first. Maybe a reworking of the 20~35, a new SFL in the the under 20mm range (hopefully something a bit more compact than old FF 15mm), and maybe a new 24mm f2.8 (I doubt they'll attempt a 24mm f2-1.8 because the price point would probably be too high). A 20 or 21mm as compact as the 15mm DA would be exciting, in fact, I suspect there would be a long pre-order waiting list. Had one of these for my AF film cameras. It was good, but not outstanding. Edges were disappointing unless well stopped down. I would not go after a used one for the K1.

02-12-2016, 07:10 AM - 2 Likes	#1100
i5_david Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 332	Reading this and all the specs confirmed and known... boy this cam will be a winner!!! Can't wait to try it somewhere at the dealer and play around with. Fingers crossed for a cool kit offer with 24-70 tamron and I will get weak! All those years we waited and now it's around the corner! Great time to be a pentaxian hahaha

02-12-2016, 07:10 AM	#1101
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by timautin +1 ... 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4 & 600 f4 are really missing IMHO. Just as FF-friendly UWA primes. Originally posted by gorme We can even add a 200mm f/2.0 to this list I agree with both of you! I would prefer that they start from the 600/f4 going down but the 200/f2 would be really wonderful too (and needed also!)

02-12-2016, 07:28 AM - 1 Like	#1102
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,371	I could do with a cheap and small 50 1.7 HD DC WR...

02-12-2016, 07:34 AM - 1 Like	#1104
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	You forgot the 70mm F2.4 Obviously There is a need for a 20,24 and 28 Maybe the old FA's will gain in value.

02-12-2016, 07:46 AM	#1105
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	Originally posted by D1N0 You forgot the 70mm F2.4 Yep, and the 40mm f2.8, I didn't know they were compatible. I added them, thanks! Originally posted by D1N0 Obviously There is a need for a 20,24 and 28 Maybe the old FA's will gain in value. Or even wider, let's be crazy . But 20 would already be great. Still, as the 15-30 is already announced, I think that long telephoto primes are what lacks the most. But being a wildlife photographer, I may not be really objective

02-12-2016, 07:50 AM	#1106
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	The FA 50/1,4 should be updated with HD coatings to a D-FA variety with WR and modernized look. It should be an optional kit lens for the K-1.

02-12-2016, 08:14 AM	#1107
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	Originally posted by Simen1 The FA 50/1,4 should be updated with HD coatings to a D-FA variety with WR and modernized look. It should be an optional kit lens for the K-1. Pentax is doomed :'(

02-12-2016, 08:14 AM	#1108
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,107	Originally posted by timautin Lol please, please not an OTHER 50 or so mm ^^. Look at the current FF primes line up: - 31 f1.8 - 35 f2 - 35 f2.4 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 40 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 43 f1.9 - 50 f1.4 - 50 f1.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 50 f2.8 - 55 f1.4 - 70 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 77 f1.8 - 100 f2.8 - 200 f2.8 - 300 f4 - 560 f5.6 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working with a little vignetting) 12 lenses out of 15 are in the 31-100mm range, and 6 are in the 40-55. 3 of them are 50mm. I really hope we are not about getting a 52mm f1.57 I made this complaint way back (more than a year) about introducing yet another zoom or SFL in or overlapping the 28~100mm range. I suppose this is the range most used for images, but all the same additions to the extreme focal lengths are what stir excitement (if not purchases).

02-12-2016, 08:20 AM	#1109
timautin Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 346	Yep, if they want to attract professionals, the brand image & prestige is important. A brand new 50mm 1.4 won't have a huge impact, if any. A HD Pentax-D FA* 600mm f4ED DC AW (sounds lovely, right? ) or a 14mm f2.8 will.

02-12-2016, 08:22 AM	#1110
DagT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oslo Posts: 110	Originally posted by timautin Lol please, please not an OTHER 50 or so mm ^^. Look at the current FF primes line up: - 31 f1.8 - 35 f2 - 35 f2.4 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 40 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 43 f1.9 - 50 f1.4 - 50 f1.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 50 f2.8 - 55 f1.4 - 70 f2.8 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working) - 77 f1.8 - 100 f2.8 - 200 f2.8 - 300 f4 - 560 f5.6 (DA lens, to be tested but reported as working with a little vignetting) 12 lenses out of 15 are in the 31-100mm range, and 6 are in the 40-55. 3 of them are 50mm. I really hope we are not about getting a 52mm f1.57 I agree. If I should buy a K-1 I would want a new D-FA24mm f/2.0 or similar.