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**monochrome** · 10-23-2015, 11:06 AM

All these long lost users appear from the memory hole. What kind of mind Ray does Ricoh send?

**bertwert** · 10-23-2015, 11:07 AM

This is going to be a long read when I get home from the trip I'm going on this weekend.

D1N0 · 10-23-2015, 11:11 AM

some more news from photo plus: Last 2 shots, and some "info" tidbits: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review expected msrp $ 2400 and street value $1900 (but that's ball park estimation).

Shanti · 10-23-2015, 11:13 AM - **1 Like**

Some new info!! from a dealer..
Camera will be in black & maybe other colors..groundbreaking!

Sensor will be 40+ maybe more than 42
there is a surprise inside.. OVF+EVF
software is super fast! so mew processor etc....

**Fenwoodian** · 10-23-2015, 11:14 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by D1N0

too many dials on top. What is that? Dial mania? Just do it like Nikon Does:

For my style of photography, I greatly prefer dials over a menu on the screen.

I am a landscape/still image photographer. I usually shoot with a tripod, and low angle. I use the tilt out screen to prevent needing to get on my belly or knees when shooting low angle. I never use the viewfinder and compose and focus using live view on the back screen. If I have to change ISO or make another adjustment, if there are no available dials to perform the adjustment, I will have to go out of live view, change the ISO, and then go back into live view. It is so much quicker and easier for a person with this technique just to leave the image on the screen, and make the quick ISO (or other) adjustment with a dial.

PePe · 10-23-2015, 11:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pathdoc

What did you expect, when all evidence suggests that after so long, we've actually seen the Pentaxian Holy Grail?

And I am one of them

**Fenwoodian** · 10-23-2015, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by patarok

yep, i also dont see a need for Shake Reduction up there on the wheel.
Really could be Super Resolution ... ??

I like having Shake Reduction on a dial.

When shooting on a tripod, and not using pixel shift, I understand that the IQ will be slightly better if one turns the SR off.

AtitG · 10-23-2015, 11:25 AM - **1 Like**

So many dials and no selfie button😁

D1N0 · 10-23-2015, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

For my style of photography, I greatly prefer dials over a menu on the screen.

I am a landscape/still image photographer. I usually shoot with a tripod, and low angle. I use the tilt out screen to prevent needing to get on my belly or knees when shooting low angle. I never use the viewfinder and compose and focus using live view on the back screen. If I have to change ISO or make another adjustment, if there are no available dials to perform the adjustment, I will have to go out of live view, change the ISO, and then go back into live view. It is so much quicker and easier for a person with this technique just to leave the image on the screen, and make the quick ISO (or other) adjustment with a dial.

So you shouldn't buy a dslr when you are not going to use a viewfinder.

**Fenwoodian** · 10-23-2015, 11:32 AM

I'd love to see the battery compartment.

I have about 10 K3/K3II batteries that'd I'd just love to use on my new full frame. I don't want to have to buy all new batteries and chargers!!!

FantasticMrFox · 10-23-2015, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Shanti

Some new info!! from a dealer..
Camera will be in black & maybe other colors..groundbreaking!

Sensor will be 40+ maybe more than 42
there is a surprise inside.. OVF+EVF
software is super fast! so mew processor etc....

Sorry, but with all the wrong rumours that have come from dealers in the past, I cannot trust this.

Why would a manufacturer inform a dealer half a year before release about still secret features, when they know that dealers can't keep their mouth shut anyway

**Fenwoodian** · 10-23-2015, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

So you shouldn't buy a dslr when you are not going to use a viewfinder.

Good comment.

I feel that I still need a DSLR because on occasion I expect that I might be using my Pentax Full Frame for people photography and sporting events (where of course an OVF is needed).

Studer · 10-23-2015, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

I'd love to see the battery compartment.

I have about 10 K3/K3II batteries that'd I'd just love to use on my new full frame. I don't want to have to buy all new batteries and chargers!!!

This is a good point, I also hope the same.

D1N0 · 10-23-2015, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

Good comment.

I feel that I still need a DSLR because on occasion I expect that I might be using my Pentax Full Frame for people photography and sporting events (where of course an OVF/EVF is needed).

you mean an OVF

**Fenwoodian** · 10-23-2015, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by 8stripe

The rep at the show yesterday said that the sensor is 36-magapixal.

I'm OK with only 36MP provided it has great low light abilities and wide dynamic range.

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PePe Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Helsinki, Finland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 482	Originally posted by pathdoc What did you expect, when all evidence suggests that after so long, we've actually seen the Pentaxian Holy Grail? And I am one of them Last edited by PePe; 10-23-2015 at 11:33 AM.

10-23-2015, 11:37 AM	#312
Fenwoodian Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wisconsin, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,786	Originally posted by D1N0 So you shouldn't buy a dslr when you are not going to use a viewfinder. Good comment. I feel that I still need a DSLR because on occasion I expect that I might be using my Pentax Full Frame for people photography and sporting events (where of course an OVF is needed). Last edited by Fenwoodian; 10-23-2015 at 12:17 PM.

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monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kirkwood (St. Louis) MO USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 22,735	All these long lost users appear from the memory hole. What kind of mind Ray does Ricoh send?

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D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,127	some more news from photo plus: Last 2 shots, and some "info" tidbits: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review expected msrp $ 2400 and street value $1900 (but that's ball park estimation).

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Shanti Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 925	Some new info!! from a dealer.. Camera will be in black & maybe other colors..groundbreaking! Sensor will be 40+ maybe more than 42 there is a surprise inside.. OVF+EVF software is super fast! so mew processor etc....

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Fenwoodian Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wisconsin, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,786	Originally posted by D1N0 too many dials on top. What is that? Dial mania? Just do it like Nikon Does: For my style of photography, I greatly prefer dials over a menu on the screen. I am a landscape/still image photographer. I usually shoot with a tripod, and low angle. I use the tilt out screen to prevent needing to get on my belly or knees when shooting low angle. I never use the viewfinder and compose and focus using live view on the back screen. If I have to change ISO or make another adjustment, if there are no available dials to perform the adjustment, I will have to go out of live view, change the ISO, and then go back into live view. It is so much quicker and easier for a person with this technique just to leave the image on the screen, and make the quick ISO (or other) adjustment with a dial.

10-23-2015, 11:24 AM	#307
Fenwoodian Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wisconsin, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,786	Originally posted by patarok yep, i also dont see a need for Shake Reduction up there on the wheel. Really could be Super Resolution ... ?? I like having Shake Reduction on a dial. When shooting on a tripod, and not using pixel shift, I understand that the IQ will be slightly better if one turns the SR off.

10-23-2015, 11:25 AM - 1 Like	#308
AtitG Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 270	So many dials and no selfie button😁

10-23-2015, 11:31 AM	#309
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,127	Originally posted by Fenwoodian For my style of photography, I greatly prefer dials over a menu on the screen. I am a landscape/still image photographer. I usually shoot with a tripod, and low angle. I use the tilt out screen to prevent needing to get on my belly or knees when shooting low angle. I never use the viewfinder and compose and focus using live view on the back screen. If I have to change ISO or make another adjustment, if there are no available dials to perform the adjustment, I will have to go out of live view, change the ISO, and then go back into live view. It is so much quicker and easier for a person with this technique just to leave the image on the screen, and make the quick ISO (or other) adjustment with a dial. So you shouldn't buy a dslr when you are not going to use a viewfinder.

10-23-2015, 11:32 AM	#310
Fenwoodian Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wisconsin, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,786	I'd love to see the battery compartment. I have about 10 K3/K3II batteries that'd I'd just love to use on my new full frame. I don't want to have to buy all new batteries and chargers!!!

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FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,209	Originally posted by Shanti Some new info!! from a dealer.. Camera will be in black & maybe other colors..groundbreaking! Sensor will be 40+ maybe more than 42 there is a surprise inside.. OVF+EVF software is super fast! so mew processor etc.... Sorry, but with all the wrong rumours that have come from dealers in the past, I cannot trust this. Why would a manufacturer inform a dealer half a year before release about still secret features, when they know that dealers can't keep their mouth shut anyway

10-23-2015, 11:39 AM	#313
Studer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25	Originally posted by Fenwoodian I'd love to see the battery compartment. I have about 10 K3/K3II batteries that'd I'd just love to use on my new full frame. I don't want to have to buy all new batteries and chargers!!! This is a good point, I also hope the same.

10-23-2015, 11:39 AM	#314
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,127	Originally posted by Fenwoodian Good comment. I feel that I still need a DSLR because on occasion I expect that I might be using my Pentax Full Frame for people photography and sporting events (where of course an OVF/EVF is needed). you mean an OVF

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Fenwoodian Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wisconsin, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,786	Originally posted by 8stripe The rep at the show yesterday said that the sensor is 36-magapixal. I'm OK with only 36MP provided it has great low light abilities and wide dynamic range.

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