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Fenwoodian · 10-23-2015, 12:36 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by janneman

First thing I'd do when I get my hands on this is tape the swivvel screen with duct tape. Wondering how much bulk is added with this construiction instead of a flush back without swivvel...

IfI wanted extra bulk I'd rather have a pop up flash as that has saved some awkard moment when I did not bring the flash but it suddenly was too dark to shoot without flash and besides always carrying an extra flash is even more bulky.

Unlike you, I am excited about the swivvel (sp) screen. I have used a number of different camera systems over the years, and found that when I had a swivvel screen available that I actually used it for over 90% of my photos!

In fact, I sold my Pentax K3 because it did not have a swivvel screen. So... maybe you do not like the swivvel screen, but please realize that a swivvel screen is a very important feature to many of us.

grispie · 10-23-2015, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by exnito

just wanted to point out, that the screen looks like a week point.

I wouldn't worry about that. My sony a77 also had a screen where i was like, someday: this will fall off. It held just fine..
But an expensive cam is not a kids toy. they can break everything to pieces if they want...

Asahiflex · 10-23-2015, 12:38 AM - **1 Like**

Interesting to start my morning like this, thanks!

BTW, my first reaction also was: this looks like a Nikon, albeit somewhat smaller! Not necessarily a bad thing I'd say. And I love how the border of the swivel screen (the border which stays fixed to the camera) seems to be made of soft rubber. No other real surprises that I can see, apart from a very small hint of an AOCo logo on the front of the prism housing

**microlight** · 10-23-2015, 12:41 AM

Good to see five user modes back again: I use all five on my K-5.

infoomatic · 10-23-2015, 12:43 AM

hope all those dials keep operating the cameras simple

i83N · 10-23-2015, 12:51 AM - **2 Likes**

Small top screen looks like it’s been taken from Ricoh GR1 (film camera). So many buttons and dials, not to mention possibility of a touch screen, it will feel like an air plane cockpit. I like it!
Hope that top screen could change to OLED/Color LCD/Color E-ink as a new trend from Phase One XF and new Leica.

zing007 · 10-23-2015, 12:53 AM

The two dials on the right side are probably the mode dial and ISO dial.

kooks · 10-23-2015, 12:55 AM - **2 Likes**

LOVE IT!!.. that many control wheels are great.. LCD mechanism looks stronger than other brands. Looks strong, compact and with great ergonimics.

Cant wait to see all the spects for this camera.

max_pyne · 10-23-2015, 01:09 AM - **1 Like**

Love it! Now we can just hope that the price will not be toooo steep.... Would love to get one... but will need to sell some of my gear...

redpit · 10-23-2015, 01:10 AM - **1 Like**

I like it very much! Looks serious tool and I'm confident it will retain the Pentax ergonomics that make a camera a joy to use!

Now lets find out what's inside! :-)

Fogel70 · 10-23-2015, 01:11 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ogl

Why this camera has ISO button, ISO at the wheel and ISO could be put at front and back control wheels in different shooting modes...?[COLOR="Silver"]

Most likely because them being used differently.

ISO on the dial is most likely used for setting up ISO parameters. (Fi ISO range, which sometimes would be better to adjust "live" than manual ISO)
ISO-button is used for switching between manual/auto ISO and changing ISO in modes where ISO is not available on any e-dial.
Changing ISO with e-dials is not available in all modes.

i83N · 10-23-2015, 01:30 AM

By the way looks not much bigger than k3 with 24-70 lens

bikepete · 10-23-2015, 01:35 AM - **1 Like**

Wishful thinking time maybe but...

Looks to me as if the rear screen could be not just swivelling but a completely removable touchscreen, and connected wirelessly.

It looks like a sort of cradle behind the screen itself, into which it can snap in and out.

There are no obvious wires to the body from the screen (sure, it's a mock-up, but doesn't look easy to make a robust connection with that 'metal legs' design). So wireless.

If it's to be a fully removable control pad then it needs to be a touch screen.

If removable, it would need battery power. Would be kinda cool if it were completely sealed and charged wirelessly (magnetic induction) whenever it's on the body.

npc · 10-23-2015, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

Most likely because them being used differently.

ISO on the dial is most likely used for setting up ISO parameters. (Fi ISO range, which sometimes would be better to adjust "live" than manual ISO)
ISO-button is used for switching between manual/auto ISO and changing ISO in modes where ISO is not available on any e-dial.
Changing ISO with e-dials is not available in all modes.

To me it looks like the ISO button does what it used to do on k-3/k-5/etc and the ISO on the marked wheel makes the unmarked wheel work like an ISO wheel (regardless of what the other 2 are set to).

veato · 10-23-2015, 01:40 AM - **4 Likes**

Yesterday: no interest in a FF camera
Today: oh my god I want it now!

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10-23-2015, 12:36 AM - 2 Likes	#151
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,875	Originally posted by janneman First thing I'd do when I get my hands on this is tape the swivvel screen with duct tape. Wondering how much bulk is added with this construiction instead of a flush back without swivvel... IfI wanted extra bulk I'd rather have a pop up flash as that has saved some awkard moment when I did not bring the flash but it suddenly was too dark to shoot without flash and besides always carrying an extra flash is even more bulky. Unlike you, I am excited about the swivvel (sp) screen. I have used a number of different camera systems over the years, and found that when I had a swivvel screen available that I actually used it for over 90% of my photos! In fact, I sold my Pentax K3 because it did not have a swivvel screen. So... maybe you do not like the swivvel screen, but please realize that a swivvel screen is a very important feature to many of us.

10-23-2015, 12:37 AM	#152
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by exnito just wanted to point out, that the screen looks like a week point. I wouldn't worry about that. My sony a77 also had a screen where i was like, someday: this will fall off. It held just fine.. But an expensive cam is not a kids toy. they can break everything to pieces if they want...

10-23-2015, 12:38 AM - 1 Like	#153
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Interesting to start my morning like this, thanks! BTW, my first reaction also was: this looks like a Nikon, albeit somewhat smaller! Not necessarily a bad thing I'd say. And I love how the border of the swivel screen (the border which stays fixed to the camera) seems to be made of soft rubber. No other real surprises that I can see, apart from a very small hint of an AOCo logo on the front of the prism housing

10-23-2015, 12:41 AM	#154
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	Good to see five user modes back again: I use all five on my K-5.

10-23-2015, 12:43 AM	#155
infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	hope all those dials keep operating the cameras simple

10-23-2015, 12:51 AM - 2 Likes	#156
i83N Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,203	Small top screen looks like it’s been taken from Ricoh GR1 (film camera). So many buttons and dials, not to mention possibility of a touch screen, it will feel like an air plane cockpit. I like it! Hope that top screen could change to OLED/Color LCD/Color E-ink as a new trend from Phase One XF and new Leica.

10-23-2015, 12:53 AM	#157
zing007 New Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5	The two dials on the right side are probably the mode dial and ISO dial.

10-23-2015, 12:55 AM - 2 Likes	#158
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	LOVE IT!!.. that many control wheels are great.. LCD mechanism looks stronger than other brands. Looks strong, compact and with great ergonimics. Cant wait to see all the spects for this camera.

10-23-2015, 01:10 AM - 1 Like	#160
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,858	I like it very much! Looks serious tool and I'm confident it will retain the Pentax ergonomics that make a camera a joy to use! Now lets find out what's inside! :-)

10-23-2015, 01:11 AM - 1 Like	#161
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by ogl Why this camera has ISO button, ISO at the wheel and ISO could be put at front and back control wheels in different shooting modes...?[COLOR="Silver"] Most likely because them being used differently. ISO on the dial is most likely used for setting up ISO parameters. (Fi ISO range, which sometimes would be better to adjust "live" than manual ISO) ISO-button is used for switching between manual/auto ISO and changing ISO in modes where ISO is not available on any e-dial. Changing ISO with e-dials is not available in all modes.

10-23-2015, 01:30 AM	#162
i83N Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,203	By the way looks not much bigger than k3 with 24-70 lens

10-23-2015, 01:35 AM - 1 Like	#163
bikepete New Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 5	Wishful thinking time maybe but... Looks to me as if the rear screen could be not just swivelling but a completely removable touchscreen, and connected wirelessly. It looks like a sort of cradle behind the screen itself, into which it can snap in and out. There are no obvious wires to the body from the screen (sure, it's a mock-up, but doesn't look easy to make a robust connection with that 'metal legs' design). So wireless. If it's to be a fully removable control pad then it needs to be a touch screen. If removable, it would need battery power. Would be kinda cool if it were completely sealed and charged wirelessly (magnetic induction) whenever it's on the body.

10-23-2015, 01:37 AM	#164
npc Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 313	Originally posted by Fogel70 Most likely because them being used differently. ISO on the dial is most likely used for setting up ISO parameters. (Fi ISO range, which sometimes would be better to adjust "live" than manual ISO) ISO-button is used for switching between manual/auto ISO and changing ISO in modes where ISO is not available on any e-dial. Changing ISO with e-dials is not available in all modes. To me it looks like the ISO button does what it used to do on k-3/k-5/etc and the ISO on the marked wheel makes the unmarked wheel work like an ISO wheel (regardless of what the other 2 are set to).

10-23-2015, 01:40 AM - 4 Likes	#165
veato Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nottingham Posts: 543	Yesterday: no interest in a FF camera Today: oh my god I want it now!

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