Pentax FF Teaser Updated

Alizarine · 12-02-2015, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Ever shoot food products for a client where the stuff being photographed may not even be edible?

there are times yes or partly at least especially for stuff that expire in appeal really fast, like ice, or black coffee on a white cup, or even some leafy veggies. Me or my buddies use synthetic lookalikes (cept for the coffee)

**Digitalis** · 12-02-2015, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Ever shoot food products for a client where the stuff being photographed may not even be edible?

Inedible products used to depict edible ones is norm rather than the exception for food photography.

**ffking** · 12-03-2015, 04:58 AM

Going back to the name thing again - I think the continued hiding of the name confirms that it won't be K-1, otherwise why bother

D1N0 · 12-03-2015, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by ffking

Going back to the name thing again - I think the continued hiding of the name confirms that it won't be K-1, otherwise why bother

Because were not supposed to now yet. New York badhesive pads were not planned.

JPT · 12-03-2015, 05:56 AM

Just a crazy thought about naming. If the Pentax , which is referenced on the teaser, was called LX to commemorate 60 years of the company, could the new full frame be called XL? It was supposed to be released in 2015, which is the 40-year anniversary of K-mount.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 12-03-2015, 06:03 AM - **1 Like**

Or maybe it will be released in 2019, the 100th anniversary of Asahi. I'll get my coat.....

D1N0 · 12-03-2015, 06:24 AM

Yeah XCVII or wait three years and call it C

**ffking** · 12-03-2015, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Because were not supposed to now yet. New York badhesive pads were not planned.

Yeah - but it was always the obvious name, to the extent that any name was obvious - K7<K5<K3... if the cat really is out of the bag, why not acknowledge it? What harm does it do? (sorry, I'm not a marketing man ;D)

JPT · 12-03-2015, 06:34 AM

The main problem with K-1 is that it's a name with nowhere to go. Presumably there will be more full frame cameras in future, but then you'd have to cook up a new naming scheme for them. And it also implies a gradual advance over the K-7, K-5and K-3, which is underselling such an important camera. But since when did Pentax naming make sense? It'll probably be K-1.

davidsladek · 12-03-2015, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by JPT

The main problem with K-1 is that it's a name with nowhere to go. Presumably there will be more full frame cameras in future, but then you'd have to cook up a new naming scheme for them. And it also implies a gradual advance over the K-7, K-5and K-3, which is underselling such an important camera. But since when did Pentax naming make sense? It'll probably be K-1.

What about EOS 1Ds? Did they die out?

Kunzite · 12-03-2015, 07:11 AM

The main problem with the name is that it's not that much of a problem. There is room above and below, Ricoh would only have to use a different notation if the current "system" would prove insufficient.

Davidparis · 12-05-2015, 01:43 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by fuzzyfelt30

Seems as though they also call themselves 'Petnax' at the bottom of the Japanese version!! You would have thought someone would check these things!!

Actually, I kind of like "Petnax"...

**PJ1** · 12-05-2015, 03:44 AM

They have already told us what it is: "A new chapter in the PENTAX is about to begin!"

It's the K-0 (As in K-zero)

**monochrome** · 12-05-2015, 08:05 AM

Regarding the naming convention, on the right side of the text section below the teaser image there's a great big

hint

.
Asahi Optical Co. was formed in 1919. LX was actually released in the 61st year of Asahi Optical Co. (1980) so it was marketed as released "in honor of . . . . . "

The Asahiflex IIA was released in 1955. The AP was released in 1957. An LX-derived designation in honor of the 60th anniversary of either legendary camera has precedent.

Copy from Asahi Optical Historical Club on AP:

"World's first 35mm SLR with microprisms on focusing screen. First Japanese SLR with fixed pentaprism. First Japanese SLR with rapid-wind lever. First pentaprism SLR from Asahi Opt. Co. and first example of stylish and rational design in a pentaprism SLR. This SLR set industry standard about styling and controls layout, then copied by Japanese and German industry."

Baard-Elnar photo ~

**gaweidert** · 12-05-2015, 08:29 AM

How about K4? Never been done before. Room to move etc. Maybe even K4-F or KF-4.

12-05-2015, 08:05 AM	#164
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Regarding the naming convention, on the right side of the text section below the teaser image there's a great big hint . Asahi Optical Co. was formed in 1919. LX was actually released in the 61st year of Asahi Optical Co. (1980) so it was marketed as released "in honor of . . . . . " The Asahiflex IIA was released in 1955. The AP was released in 1957. An LX-derived designation in honor of the 60th anniversary of either legendary camera has precedent. Copy from Asahi Optical Historical Club on AP: "World's first 35mm SLR with microprisms on focusing screen. First Japanese SLR with fixed pentaprism. First Japanese SLR with rapid-wind lever. First pentaprism SLR from Asahi Opt. Co. and first example of stylish and rational design in a pentaprism SLR. This SLR set industry standard about styling and controls layout, then copied by Japanese and German industry." Baard-Elnar photo ~ Last edited by monochrome; 12-05-2015 at 11:23 AM.

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12-02-2015, 07:01 PM	#151
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Originally posted by Not a Number Ever shoot food products for a client where the stuff being photographed may not even be edible? there are times yes or partly at least especially for stuff that expire in appeal really fast, like ice, or black coffee on a white cup, or even some leafy veggies. Me or my buddies use synthetic lookalikes (cept for the coffee)

12-02-2015, 08:05 PM	#152
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Not a Number Ever shoot food products for a client where the stuff being photographed may not even be edible? Inedible products used to depict edible ones is norm rather than the exception for food photography.

12-03-2015, 04:58 AM	#153
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Going back to the name thing again - I think the continued hiding of the name confirms that it won't be K-1, otherwise why bother

12-03-2015, 05:34 AM	#154
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by ffking Going back to the name thing again - I think the continued hiding of the name confirms that it won't be K-1, otherwise why bother Because were not supposed to now yet. New York badhesive pads were not planned.

12-03-2015, 05:56 AM	#155
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Just a crazy thought about naming. If the Pentax , which is referenced on the teaser, was called LX to commemorate 60 years of the company, could the new full frame be called XL? It was supposed to be released in 2015, which is the 40-year anniversary of K-mount.

12-03-2015, 06:03 AM - 1 Like	#156
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Or maybe it will be released in 2019, the 100th anniversary of Asahi. I'll get my coat.....

12-03-2015, 06:24 AM	#157
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Yeah XCVII or wait three years and call it C

12-03-2015, 06:27 AM	#158
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by D1N0 Because were not supposed to now yet. New York badhesive pads were not planned. Yeah - but it was always the obvious name, to the extent that any name was obvious - K7<K5<K3... if the cat really is out of the bag, why not acknowledge it? What harm does it do? (sorry, I'm not a marketing man ;D)

12-03-2015, 06:34 AM	#159
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	The main problem with K-1 is that it's a name with nowhere to go. Presumably there will be more full frame cameras in future, but then you'd have to cook up a new naming scheme for them. And it also implies a gradual advance over the K-7, K-5and K-3, which is underselling such an important camera. But since when did Pentax naming make sense? It'll probably be K-1.

12-03-2015, 06:40 AM	#160
davidsladek Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Surrey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 346	Originally posted by JPT The main problem with K-1 is that it's a name with nowhere to go. Presumably there will be more full frame cameras in future, but then you'd have to cook up a new naming scheme for them. And it also implies a gradual advance over the K-7, K-5and K-3, which is underselling such an important camera. But since when did Pentax naming make sense? It'll probably be K-1. What about EOS 1Ds? Did they die out?

12-03-2015, 07:11 AM	#161
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The main problem with the name is that it's not that much of a problem. There is room above and below, Ricoh would only have to use a different notation if the current "system" would prove insufficient.

12-05-2015, 01:43 AM - 2 Likes	#162
Davidparis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 290	Originally posted by fuzzyfelt30 Seems as though they also call themselves 'Petnax' at the bottom of the Japanese version!! You would have thought someone would check these things!! Actually, I kind of like "Petnax"...

12-05-2015, 03:44 AM	#163
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,484	They have already told us what it is: "A new chapter in the PENTAX is about to begin!" It's the K-0 (As in K-zero)

12-05-2015, 08:29 AM	#165
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	How about K4? Never been done before. Room to move etc. Maybe even K4-F or KF-4.