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12-11-2015, 01:23 AM   #226
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QuoteOriginally posted by arv Quote
Both lenses discontinued in 2004... It's not solid somehow, they could have used a new, modern lens instead.
True.. but the note is talking about compatibility so they HAD to use old lenses no matter what in order to show this.

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new image and samples posted

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image sample from K-1 with smc PENTAX-FA★ 85mm F1.4[IF]

image sample from K-1 with smc PENTAX-FA★ 24mm F2AL[IF]


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Crop mode selectable, DA lenses can be used in FF mode according to new text:

All K-mount lenses are compatible
11.12.2015 NEW

The new Pentax 35mm full-frame digital SLR camera is equipped with an image sensor for 35 mm full-size images and uses the K-mount lens system. The camera is compatible with all K-mount lenses, such as the FA lenses, which can be used with the same angle of view as with 35mm film cameras. As for the APS-C-size image sensor, the DA lens series, the cropping function makes it possible to use the APS-C-size center portion of an image. By changing the settings, you can also choose a 35mm full-frame angle of view. The D FA lens series—which is beautifully suited to digital images—covers all of these capabilities, including, of course, the 35-mm full-size angle of view.

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Full Frame by PENTAX | RICOH IMAGING

Sorry for repeating, just seen it's already been posted in a page ago. Repetition doesn't hurt but I take no credit for this!
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And the FA*85mm/f1.4 is a great lens to show.
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Interesting, and pretty good news for legacy glass holders

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I will love to see the Pentax logo with a gray/metal plate kind of like they did with the 645Z .. it makes the camera stand out of the other DSLR models.. but.. according to the las pictures is plain black.. :/

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I will love to see the Pentax logo with a gray/metal plate kind of like they did with the 645Z .. it makes the camera stand out of the other DSLR models..
Oh noes! Please instead remove all high contrast branding (or just all branding). Having a camera that stands out in any way is ONLY a bad thing. There are so many ways a strong logo is bad for yourself and your photography.

Design niggle. That bevel around the logo is butt ugly on the full frame.
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12-11-2015, 06:18 AM   #233
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
The point was backwards compatibility, and you wanted them to use a new lens?
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True.. but the note is talking about compatibility so they HAD to use old lenses no matter what in order to show this.
Well, it is mine reflexion, however, it is all about their message, as this teaser is just a part of the marketing campaign. If they wanted to stress on history and compatibility, they could have used a K series lens (like SMC 50mm f1.2), or at least M 50mm, that was shown on LX, clearly stressing that this is the historical lens, compatible with the modern camera. If they wanted to show that AF is compatible, they could have used FA Limiteds, old lenses (like FA 43mm, available since 1997), but still in production, or at least available new. FA*85mm and FA*24mm are neither fish, nor meat. They do not have modern (i.e. currently available) equivalents, and, at least for me, they are more "discontinued" than "historical" in terms of history.

Yes, the message shows that oldish lenses are compatible; however, it indirectly stresses on current lack for such great lenses, and this emotion (sadness?) for me was stronger than presented rationale. Especially thinking, that these are the first officially presented pictures, made with the new FF camera and with discontinued lenses. This campaign (as many modern ones) is based on emotions, and I am not sure they have translated it correctly, unless Ricoh is going to reintroduce these lenses again…

As I said, it is just mine opinion, YMMV.

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No matter what they do, someone will find a negative twist on it

IMHO all the points you're touching are rather favoring their approach, instead of the presented alternatives.
- FA* vs K/M - owners of FA*s are much more likely to be interested in the K-1, or at least much more concerned if their lenses would work properly. K/M lenses are just too old, too cheap.
- FA Limiteds are still available new; people would assume (without being explicitly told) that they work just fine.
- FA*s not having (yet) modern equivalents means it's even more important to know if they can work properly.

Again, this is about backwards compatibility; and it makes no sense to complain that an article about backwards compatibility talks about discontinued lenses.
They will probably say something about current/modern lenses, at some point. If they keep up with the updates, there should be a lot of small articles until CP+...
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The point was backwards compatibility, and you wanted them to use a new lens?
I wonder if they'll ship it with an M42 adapter.

(We still haven't seen the inside face of the mount. I live in hope.)
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QuoteOriginally posted by davidsladek Quote
Crop mode selectable, DA lenses can be used in FF mode according to new text
Yay!

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QuoteOriginally posted by davidsladek Quote
Crop mode selectable, DA lenses can be used in FF mode according to new text
You'd think this would be a given, having provided a position on the great big new dial for it! I seriously do hope it's just DA Crop, full, or auto out of the box to keep things simple - perhaps with the option of choosing other things in menu and saving to user settings if you really, really want. But IMO anyone who wants that many options should be cropping in post anyway.
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QuoteOriginally posted by house Quote
Design niggle. That bevel around the logo is butt ugly on the full frame.
No it's not
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According to Ricoh's blog post:

the rose is ƒ1.8 1/160 @ ISO 100

the W/A rail is ƒ10 1/1600 @ ISO 400
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