[Tom S.]

FYI, I think the 200 macro is an f4 lens.

You are correct, but that doesn't mean they couldn't up date it to a f2.8.

Of course with the cost of the 200 f4 macro being what it currently is, I'd need a winning lottery ticket to buy a 2.8 version.

[rawr]

And make DFA teleconverters 2x and 1.4x

A new Pentax-made extension tube set that supports auto aperture would be nice too.

[RonHendriks1966]

A new Pentax-made extension tube set that supports auto aperture would be nice too.

And auto focus!

[bertwert]

FYI, I think the 200 macro is an f4 lens.

It is, I messed up.

[thibs]

FYI, I think the 200 macro is an f4 lens.

Indeed either 200/2.8 "normal" or 200/4 macro.

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It is, I messed up.

Hey, it happens.

[cali92rs]

It's gonna be superior to Canon and Nikon , so be patient.

In what way?
I hear very little complaints for the mk2 versions of these lenses (besides size, and the Pentax lens is similarly sized based on what folks that have handled it have said).
Are you basing this on actual results or wishful thinking?

[kenspo]

Are you basing this on actual results or wishful thinking?

He knows Pentax deliver quality + feedback from people like me..who have tested and used it. I can compare it with Nikon and Canon. Used them all. The first pre-product one was just as good as Nikon VR one. And soon enough, we'll know just how good the finished product is. Was there anything else?

[cali92rs]

He knows Pentax deliver quality + feedback from people like me..who have tested and used it. I can compare it with Nikon and Canon. Used them all. The first pre-product one was just as good as Nikon VR one. And soon enough, we'll know just how good the finished product is. Was there anything else?

Just as good is not "superior".
I am sure that it will be comprable to the others. Better in some respects, not as good in others.
Point being, to boldly say that it will be superior than the mk2 versions of the existing, very highly regarded lenses is not being objective.

[kenspo]

I said that the first PRE-PRODUCT one was just as good, but we'll have to wait until its 100% finished until we see how good it is. Try to read everything i say next time

[Digitalis]

Has anybody tested a pre-production sample on a 24x36 sensor

you're asking if someone has tested a new pentax lens on a SONY body? A pentax body would be by far the best choice.

With so much delay they could surprise us all and make this lens & FF mirrorless!

Yes! we all know how Pentax has to jump on that bandwagon.

[kenspo]

With so much delay they could surprise us all and make this lens & FF mirrorless!

and wait for it;

[falconeye]

The question is if Pentax feels that, after the introduction of the FF, these lenses may potentially steer "serious" photographers away from that FF. Pentax is already a small brand. It's possible they need every help to make the FF succeed. Canon and Nikon don't offer 50-135s either. They push you to fullframe instead. Pentax might need to do that too.

Unfortunately, I think the move to fullframe may result in Pentax being more and more like Canon/Nikon.

It must not be this way.

So far, Canon and Nikon have failed to make FF models as small and ergonomically sound as a K-3. Which includes its lens offerings. With small primes like FA43 etc, and small zooms like a DA*16-55-sized DFA* 24-70/4, the K-1 could become one.

I see that this isn't Pentax first priority, now doubling the 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/2.8 offerings. Fair enough, but it could be Pentax second priority. Make FF appeal to current APSC shooters, both in price and size, when considering both body and lens options. This is what I meant, making replacing a DA* 16-50 third priority. Still important though.

[zapp]

I totally agree with everythign said, a follow up APS-C camera and new APS-C lenses would be nice, a couple additional FF lenses with the K1 would be great - just realize that we arestill awaiting a lens introduced almost a year ago. All other whishes have to be postponed as well and trust an confidence are not build up here.
Pentax wants to present superior glass ncie idea... will it be as fast as other, as leight, as well made, will it be the only Pentax deisgn FF lens? A couple more months and we will know. I know what i expect from Penta - being superior to the rest of the world is not on that list.

[mee]

I totally agree with everythign said, a follow up APS-C camera and new APS-C lenses would be nice, a couple additional FF lenses with the K1 would be great - just realize that we arestill awaiting a lens introduced almost a year ago. All other whishes have to be postponed as well and trust an confidence are not build up here.
Pentax wants to present superior glass ncie idea... will it be as fast as other, as leight, as well made, will it be the only Pentax deisgn FF lens? A couple more months and we will know. I know what i expect from Penta - being superior to the rest of the world is not on that list.

Isn't this the first modern Ricoh Imaging made Pentax lens? There are obviously kinks in the process that are getting smoothed.. perhaps the process from concept to final product will be smoother from now on?

[jatrax]

Isn't this the first modern Ricoh Imaging made Pentax lens? There are obviously kinks in the process that are getting smoothed.. perhaps the process from concept to final product will be smoother from now on?

That is a good thought. I know here at my employer when we do something the first time there are always problems, but we learn and develop better processes and checks. The next time we do something similar we have a body of knowledge to fall back on and better idea of where things can go wrong and how to check for them. I think that would be similar with any manufacturing company.