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**clackers** · 01-07-2016, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by cxdoo

But then you followed up with hoping that RP has other 'mercenaries' that can follow the tune correctly.

I said I was glad that of the mercenaries, he spoke his mind.

In your haste to type something, did you miss my 'cool guy' comment?

Originally posted by cxdoo

So in the end, it seemed to me that the problem wasn't the nature of kenspo's relation with RP but the fact he dismisses APS-C and compliments Nikon FF stuff.

I'm afraid, again, I don't think you thought this through, Cxdoo.

Nicolas and Norman mentioned Nikon, I never did. ☺

If you were guessing, you were guessing wrong.

You only had to ask, really. ☺

Originally posted by cxdoo

On a side note I have friends who moved from Europe to Melbourne some years ago and they keep inviting me there, saying everything is pretty much the same like on Earth but I still don't believe them.

It's a trap by them, don't go. ☺

The Economist magazine has regularly put it just about the best city in the world to live, work and raise a family.

But for wow factor, if you only had a couple of days in Australia, Sydney's a better bet.

Last edited by clackers; 01-07-2016 at 01:10 PM.

cxdoo · 01-07-2016, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by clackers

I'm afraid, again, I don't think you thought this through, Cxdoo.

Oh well, I'm not going to nitpick. If I got you wrong I apologize.

Originally posted by clackers

But for wow factor, if you only had a couple of days in Australia, Sydney's a better bet.

No way I'm coming there for a couple of days only.

That's why I have to keep finding excuses until I manage to pull at least a month.

**clackers** · 01-07-2016, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by cxdoo

No way I'm coming there for a couple of days only.

That's why I have to keep finding excuses until I manage to pull at least a month.

If your timetable ever permits, happy to show you round.

Imp · 01-07-2016, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

The pro community has gone from laughter to really pay attention to Pentax now. And quite a few of them are waiting to test the FF with me when it arrives.

Sounds good

I'm curious, when you say the K-1 will be a game changer, do you mean at the D810/5diii level? Not at the 5D/1dx level, right?

---------- Post added 01-07-16 at 07:17 PM ----------

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Actually, based on the previous three releases' 12-day cycle of new information, it's two days overdue. Allowing three extra holidays since the last one on Xmas Eve, though, means there should be something new in another 24 hours…

Just what I was thinking!

SpecialK · 01-07-2016, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

'Since best is the superlative of all measured candidates, ordered in a rank by how well they exhibit 'Good' characteristics - 'Best' then also must be a subjective judgement of each individual.

Pentax has premium, which is better than best :-)

Quicksand · 01-07-2016, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Imp

I'm curious, when you say the K-1 will be a game changer, do you mean at the D810/5diii level? Not at the 5D/1dx level, right?

It will be a game changer at the D78d5xii00/a777R2D2 level. You're going to have to trust me on this.

**TwoUptons** · 01-07-2016, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by Quicksand

It will be a game changer at the D78d5xii00/a777R2D2 level. You're going to have to trust me on this.

As long as it isn't at the %^^&($*&^$!!! level, I'll probably be good...

-Eric

ogl · 01-07-2016, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

For all we know they might have been working on the best AF ever made. So please don't state your opinion as a fact please.

Can you confirm that K-1's AF system is better than D500/D5's AF?

rawr · 01-07-2016, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by ogl

is better than D500/D5's AF?

By what AF metric?

There are no ISO or CIPA standards for 'better', so what do you mean?

cxdoo · 01-08-2016, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by clackers

If your timetable ever permits, happy to show you round.

Thanks.

I'm sure there's a lot to see. When I come, I'll make sure timetable is big enough.

rullrich · 01-08-2016, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by rawr

By what AF metric?

There are no ISO or CIPA standards for 'better', so what do you mean?

I think ogl's reply is valid since it's a little daring to say that Pentax AF in K-1 might be better than everything else without even knowing the specs. Dreaming is allowed of cause

kooks · 01-08-2016, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by rullrich

I think ogl's reply is valid since it's a little daring to say that Pentax AF in K-1 might be better than everything else without even knowing the specs. Dreaming is allowed of cause

Perhaps he meant better than whatever Pentax made in the past.. so, ofcourse, it will be better than everything (within the Pentax system ).. but who knows.. perhaps the AF could be even better than the top cameras around. Nobody around here actually knows so.. the possibility is there.

Glorfindelrb · 01-08-2016, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Can you confirm that K-1's AF system is better than D500/D5's AF?

It's as impossible to state as your previous assumption about Ricoh engineers. Asahiflex took care to use all the precaution with "For all we know they might have been", your criticism is invalid.

bxf · 01-08-2016, 02:54 AM

There appears to be some language misunderstanding issues with respect to Asahiflex's response to ogl.

Asahiflex was merely saying that ogl is not in a position to make assumptions about the level of competence of Pentax engineers viz-a-viz those of Nikon. We simply don't know how good the K-1 AF system is. We simply do not know one way or the other, and that is what is meant by "for all we know...".

rullrich · 01-08-2016, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by bxf

There appears to be some language misunderstanding issues with respect to Asahiflex's response to ogl.

Asahiflex was merely saying that ogl is not in a position to make assumptions about the level of competence of Pentax engineers viz-a-viz those of Nikon. We simply don't know how good the K-1 AF system is. We simply do not know one way or the other, and that is what is meant by "for all we know...".

You're right, language issues play a major role in misunderstandings, but this could also have been the case in asahiflex's reaction to ogl. And he literally is quite right: there ain't no such thing as a Pentax version of D5. I'll never get the true essence of brand fetishism I think, people get upset so quickly when talking about /defending their gear.

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01-07-2016, 01:03 PM	#406
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by cxdoo But then you followed up with hoping that RP has other 'mercenaries' that can follow the tune correctly. I said I was glad that of the mercenaries, he spoke his mind. In your haste to type something, did you miss my 'cool guy' comment? Originally posted by cxdoo So in the end, it seemed to me that the problem wasn't the nature of kenspo's relation with RP but the fact he dismisses APS-C and compliments Nikon FF stuff. I'm afraid, again, I don't think you thought this through, Cxdoo. Nicolas and Norman mentioned Nikon, I never did. ☺ If you were guessing, you were guessing wrong. You only had to ask, really. ☺ Originally posted by cxdoo On a side note I have friends who moved from Europe to Melbourne some years ago and they keep inviting me there, saying everything is pretty much the same like on Earth but I still don't believe them. It's a trap by them, don't go. ☺ The Economist magazine has regularly put it just about the best city in the world to live, work and raise a family. But for wow factor, if you only had a couple of days in Australia, Sydney's a better bet. Last edited by clackers; 01-07-2016 at 01:10 PM.

01-07-2016, 02:24 PM	#407
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by clackers I'm afraid, again, I don't think you thought this through, Cxdoo. Oh well, I'm not going to nitpick. If I got you wrong I apologize. Originally posted by clackers But for wow factor, if you only had a couple of days in Australia, Sydney's a better bet. No way I'm coming there for a couple of days only. That's why I have to keep finding excuses until I manage to pull at least a month.

01-07-2016, 02:50 PM	#408
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by cxdoo No way I'm coming there for a couple of days only. That's why I have to keep finding excuses until I manage to pull at least a month. If your timetable ever permits, happy to show you round.

01-07-2016, 05:16 PM	#409
Imp Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Washington, DC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,749	Originally posted by kenspo The pro community has gone from laughter to really pay attention to Pentax now. And quite a few of them are waiting to test the FF with me when it arrives. Sounds good I'm curious, when you say the K-1 will be a game changer, do you mean at the D810/5diii level? Not at the 5D/1dx level, right? ---------- Post added 01-07-16 at 07:17 PM ---------- Originally posted by RobA_Oz Actually, based on the previous three releases' 12-day cycle of new information, it's two days overdue. Allowing three extra holidays since the last one on Xmas Eve, though, means there should be something new in another 24 hours… Just what I was thinking!

01-07-2016, 07:17 PM	#410
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Originally posted by monochrome 'Since best is the superlative of all measured candidates, ordered in a rank by how well they exhibit 'Good' characteristics - 'Best' then also must be a subjective judgement of each individual. Pentax has premium, which is better than best :-)

01-07-2016, 07:21 PM	#411
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	Originally posted by Imp I'm curious, when you say the K-1 will be a game changer, do you mean at the D810/5diii level? Not at the 5D/1dx level, right? It will be a game changer at the D78d5xii00/a777R2D2 level. You're going to have to trust me on this.

01-07-2016, 09:59 PM	#412
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by Quicksand It will be a game changer at the D78d5xii00/a777R2D2 level. You're going to have to trust me on this. As long as it isn't at the %^^&($*&^$!!! level, I'll probably be good... -Eric

01-07-2016, 11:02 PM	#413
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Asahiflex For all we know they might have been working on the best AF ever made. So please don't state your opinion as a fact please. Can you confirm that K-1's AF system is better than D500/D5's AF?

01-07-2016, 11:24 PM	#414
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by ogl is better than D500/D5's AF? By what AF metric? There are no ISO or CIPA standards for 'better', so what do you mean?

01-08-2016, 01:21 AM	#415
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by clackers If your timetable ever permits, happy to show you round. Thanks. I'm sure there's a lot to see. When I come, I'll make sure timetable is big enough.

01-08-2016, 01:49 AM	#416
rullrich Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Berlin Posts: 122	Originally posted by rawr By what AF metric? There are no ISO or CIPA standards for 'better', so what do you mean? I think ogl's reply is valid since it's a little daring to say that Pentax AF in K-1 might be better than everything else without even knowing the specs. Dreaming is allowed of cause

01-08-2016, 02:27 AM	#417
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by rullrich I think ogl's reply is valid since it's a little daring to say that Pentax AF in K-1 might be better than everything else without even knowing the specs. Dreaming is allowed of cause Perhaps he meant better than whatever Pentax made in the past.. so, ofcourse, it will be better than everything (within the Pentax system ).. but who knows.. perhaps the AF could be even better than the top cameras around. Nobody around here actually knows so.. the possibility is there.

01-08-2016, 02:32 AM	#418
Glorfindelrb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 364	Originally posted by ogl Can you confirm that K-1's AF system is better than D500/D5's AF? It's as impossible to state as your previous assumption about Ricoh engineers. Asahiflex took care to use all the precaution with "For all we know they might have been", your criticism is invalid.

01-08-2016, 02:54 AM	#419
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	There appears to be some language misunderstanding issues with respect to Asahiflex's response to ogl. Asahiflex was merely saying that ogl is not in a position to make assumptions about the level of competence of Pentax engineers viz-a-viz those of Nikon. We simply don't know how good the K-1 AF system is. We simply do not know one way or the other, and that is what is meant by "for all we know...".

01-08-2016, 03:22 AM	#420
rullrich Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Berlin Posts: 122	Originally posted by bxf There appears to be some language misunderstanding issues with respect to Asahiflex's response to ogl. Asahiflex was merely saying that ogl is not in a position to make assumptions about the level of competence of Pentax engineers viz-a-viz those of Nikon. We simply don't know how good the K-1 AF system is. We simply do not know one way or the other, and that is what is meant by "for all we know...". You're right, language issues play a major role in misunderstandings, but this could also have been the case in asahiflex's reaction to ogl. And he literally is quite right: there ain't no such thing as a Pentax version of D5. I'll never get the true essence of brand fetishism I think, people get upset so quickly when talking about /defending their gear.