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01-14-2016, 04:37 AM   #571
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
The quality of pictures are rather mediocre.I don't understand why the teaser site of new camera is so weak in terms of design and display of information.

I understand that Pentaxians will buy camera in any case if they would have enough money and it's not important for us, but....
The work of web-designer under Full Frame by PENTAX | RICOH IMAGING is the work of amateur.
It's not serious and not prestigious for Ricoh Imaging.
It is always this way. The question is what kinds of photos come out after real photographers get their hands on the camera and what kinds of reports real world folks give. Even when the 645Z was announced, the initial photos weren't great, but it is still a great camera.

Teasing a product that isn't available on the market is really only to keep Pentaxians from jumping ship to other full frame cameras and let them know that there really is a full frame camera coming. Folks in other brands really could care less at this point. That may change when the camera actually hits the market and there are real reviews and first hand accounts of how awesome it is, but photos taken with the FA limiteds or the DA limiteds at web sizes aren't bound to pique anyone's interest who isn't invested in Pentax already -- even if they were pretty awesome shots.

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Pentax has been cagey as hell with this camera.

According to Asahiman Pentax has turned into the KGB since ricoh took over.
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Pentax has turned into the KGB since ricoh took over
K-GB, as in K-mount?. Makes sense.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
K-GB, as in K-mount?. Makes sense.
Is K-GB is going to be for Great Britain only?

01-14-2016, 07:32 AM   #575
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
this picture was made from May till June, 2015.

it's interesting...The camera will be 1 year old soon...
They can make the K-1 ii model right away to start with.
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I bet ricoh is so cagey they only lend some new camera to ingeneer so they manage to make shot to show the feature but it missing an art director or something like that !
Stop complaining, let them grow As the old saying goes, "Rome was not built in a day"
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Actually, i very much prefer the Pentax way of marketing that do rely strongly on engineer-photographers and as a result user-friendly UI which integrates and gives a better experience to you (and by side effects don't discourage you when publishing sample shots ) ; than to rely on "aboveground" spindoctors or marketing divas, that would take the better aside of your shooting habits, and charge heavily in return.... selling you useless performances you "never will get paid for".

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I have to say that much as I enjoyed seeing the teaser shots and the site, the pictures don't really do anything to impress and if I were put in charge of Pentax marketing I would be using images from my Ambassador test team to show what the new camera can do - much as Nikon has done with he D5 and the article posted earlier. On the other hand there is something very 'Pentax' about the way they're going about things LOL!! I almost admire them for their quirky, bizarre, fawlty towers style marketing campaign and it does make a refreshing change from the usual corporate 'spin' that normal companies like Canon, Nikon, Fuji etc would put out...

What other company would show pictures taken with a lens it doesn't even make anymore (FA* 85mm F1.4) - even if it is a stunning lens!

Anyway, I'm a sucker for an eccentric underdog and my choice of products often reflects this - I shoot Pentax, ride a handbuilt English steel mountain bike (Cotic Soul), drive a TVR sports car and a Saab convertible, listen to music on a naim audio system. Compare this with my Canon shooting mate who rides a Specialised carbon mountain bike, drives an Audi and listens to music on a Japanese hi-fi or an Apple i-something or other!! He's mainstream, I'm not - maybe there's something in this after all!

Haing literally this week bough a 77mm limited brand new I'd be very grateful if anyone in the know could let me know off the record if there's about to be a model change because I still have a few days to return it unused and wouldn't want to have paid the 800 UK price I paid if they're about to launch a new improved version!!

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QuoteOriginally posted by jonlg Quote
Haing literally this week bough a 77mm limited brand new I'd be very grateful if anyone in the know could let me know off the record if there's about to be a model change because I still have a few days to return it unused and wouldn't want to have paid the 800 UK price I paid if they're about to launch a new improved version!!

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Even if it is (nothing known about it) I suggest you keep this superb lens! It surely matches your life philosophy apart from its qualities!
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QuoteOriginally posted by jonlg Quote
the pictures don't really do anything to impress
It must be that that if real photographers were allowed to use the camera and take pictures they would be so good that Nikon and Canon would become terrified and attempt to sabotage the Ricoh factory to prevent it's release. Ricoh is simply being cautious and lulling the competition into sleep.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
It must be that that if real photographers were allowed to use the camera and take pictures they would be so good that Nikon and Canon would become terrified and attempt to sabotage the Ricoh factory to prevent it's release. Ricoh is simply being cautious and lulling the competition into sleep.
High risk strategy - seems to me that Pentax is doomed either way
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QuoteOriginally posted by jonlg Quote
I were put in charge of Pentax marketing I would be using images from my Ambassador test team to show what the new camera can do -
That will come, Jon ... stop drooling! ☺
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QuoteOriginally posted by jonlg Quote
I have to say that much as I enjoyed seeing the teaser shots and the site, the pictures don't really do anything to impress and if I were put in charge of Pentax marketing I would be using images from my Ambassador test team to show what the new camera can do - much as Nikon has done with he D5 and the article posted earlier. On the other hand there is something very 'Pentax' about the way they're going about things LOL!! I almost admire them for their quirky, bizarre, fawlty towers style marketing campaign and it does make a refreshing change from the usual corporate 'spin' that normal companies like Canon, Nikon, Fuji etc would put out...

What other company would show pictures taken with a lens it doesn't even make anymore (FA* 85mm F1.4) - even if it is a stunning lens!
The Ambassador plan is just two years old, Starting in januari 2014 and Pentax just did not make a decision on how, if and ever using images from the makers of those ambassadors. They just move slowly.
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I dont know if there are others that are more then just K-3 ambassadors either..beside me..If so, even i dont know who..haha!

But Ricoh can't or won't fight with the big boys here..not yet..
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
The Ambassador plan is just two years old, Starting in januari 2014 and Pentax just did not make a decision on how, if and ever using images from the makers of those ambassadors. They just move slowly.
I'm not sure how informed you really are about the ambassador program - there's more to it that this; images do already get used, but you probably just haven't seen them. In fact there are different programs for different countries and even different tiers of programs within countries. How, when, where and which images get used depends on the local PR outfit that's in charge of the program in that country and the ambassador's agreement with them. The agreement isn't with Pentax central it's with a local PR outfit. I'm not sure if ambassadors are always just camera-specific either; ostensibly I'm a lower tier K-3II ambassador, but that hasn't stopped me letting them use K-7, K-5 and K-3II images; nor has that stopped them lending me a different (waterproof) camera next month for a trip I'm making to make underwater photos.
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