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derekkite · 02-03-2016, 06:02 AM

Touch to focus is neat but how do you use it looking through the viewfinder?

beholder3 · 02-03-2016, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by ogl

FIVE main controls - two dial wheels - front and down, big universal wheel and two small joysticks

If you forget about the battery grip duplication of elements for a battery grip which you can not get rid off ever and which makes the camera a real PITA all by itself:
One single index finger wheel like any lower level amateur camera (not Pentax though) plus a small joystick and a poorly positioned large wheel which is completely inaccessible when you hold the camera firmly with your right hand.
Try holding the Canon with a large tele lens in one hand and then adjust two parameters using both wheels. I can tell you, you will have parts of the lens all over the floor soon.
Plus the "joy" of the lonely index finger wheel being position in a way that you can only turn it with the side of you index finger due to it being so poorly placed as well.
As much as I love Canon's lenses, their body design is two leagues lower than Pentax's. Call it shame or PITA, whatever, but never ever again compare that crap to the wonderful design the Pentax guys came up.

I'd much rather replace the worthless video switch in the K-3 with an additional optionally used joystick.

"optional" because while the joystick is nice for fast movement, it is less precise and in many configurations a clear button press option is better..

D1N0 · 02-03-2016, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by ogl

New Pentax has new upper wheel and no joysticks. Canon and Nikon are reportage cameras for quick access to AF selection and all settings.

K-1 will be positioned in another way

Obviously It will be positioned between the Nikon D750 and the D810 (pricewise) Maybe it will be as good as the D810 better in some ways, less in others? Who knows.

kenspo · 02-03-2016, 06:38 AM - **1 Like**

Why arguing about stuff you dont know 100% yet?

mee · 02-03-2016, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Why arguing about stuff you dont know 100% yet?

I've made that point many many times here.. but I think it is because people are bored.

afan137 · 02-03-2016, 06:45 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

Why arguing about stuff you dont know 100% yet?

We are not arguing, we are discussing what could be implemented in Pentax FF. You shouldn't be too hard on us

Exciting to wait the leak info, but so far we haven't received any. Care to share ?

kenspo · 02-03-2016, 06:45 AM - **1 Like**

@mee I guess you're right

Not long until people can love/hate the new monster anyway!

---------- Post added 02-03-16 at 02:47 PM ----------

Originally posted by afan137

We are not arguing, we are discussing what could be implemented in Pentax FF. You shouldn't be too hard on us

Exciting to wait the leak info, but so far we haven't received any. Care to share ?

Hehe, im not hard..i just struggle to see the point

Nah, i dont take the risk at this time..but suddenly

ogl · 02-03-2016, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

If you forget about the battery grip duplication of elements for a battery grip which you can not get rid off ever and which makes the camera a real PITA all by itself.

I don't forget. I put this info just for information.

Maybe K-1 has easy and quick methods to control settings. Better than Canon.

bertwert · 02-03-2016, 08:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

Nah, i dont take the risk at this time..but suddenly

I won't share anything you PM me except on this forum

Zygonyx · 02-03-2016, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

@mee I guess you're right

Not long until people can love/hate the new monster anyway!

All i can say is I very much like the appearance and compactness of K-1, whilst I hate those 1Dx or D5 ugly and exhibitionist's bricks.

At some point, too much complexity and assistance hinders pleasure...

ogl · 02-03-2016, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

All i can say is I very much like the appearance and compactness of K-1, whilst I hate those 1Dx or D5 ugly and exhibitionist's bricks.

It's pure reportage cameras and it works cool. Animal or sport shots made by such cameras are outstanding...

But it's rather expensive, very big and heavy.

I don't like so big cameras too.

Zygonyx · 02-03-2016, 09:18 AM

I can say i would much more use Fuji's ML for reportage.
I only would try those monsters when shooting wildlife in long stands e.g. in a hide, but not even through nature walks or "billebaude"...

**Deimos** · 02-05-2016, 11:57 PM - **2 Likes**

A new photo was posted by a famous japanese landscape photographer T. Nakanishi, with the exif stating "PENTAX K-1 Ver. 0.99"!

The photo was pulled after being mentioned on digicame, but my google-fu is strong

See more here in another thread where it was first mentioned:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/169-pentax-full-frame/313154-speculation-...ml#post3518062

ogl · 02-06-2016, 02:19 AM

Firmware 0.99 is a final jump.

**Deimos** · 02-12-2016, 04:20 AM

Now that's a viewfinder! What lurks inside??

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02-03-2016, 06:02 AM	#736
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Touch to focus is neat but how do you use it looking through the viewfinder?

02-03-2016, 06:19 AM	#737
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by ogl FIVE main controls - two dial wheels - front and down, big universal wheel and two small joysticks If you forget about the battery grip duplication of elements for a battery grip which you can not get rid off ever and which makes the camera a real PITA all by itself: One single index finger wheel like any lower level amateur camera (not Pentax though) plus a small joystick and a poorly positioned large wheel which is completely inaccessible when you hold the camera firmly with your right hand. Try holding the Canon with a large tele lens in one hand and then adjust two parameters using both wheels. I can tell you, you will have parts of the lens all over the floor soon. Plus the "joy" of the lonely index finger wheel being position in a way that you can only turn it with the side of you index finger due to it being so poorly placed as well. As much as I love Canon's lenses, their body design is two leagues lower than Pentax's. Call it shame or PITA, whatever, but never ever again compare that crap to the wonderful design the Pentax guys came up. I'd much rather replace the worthless video switch in the K-3 with an additional optionally used joystick. "optional" because while the joystick is nice for fast movement, it is less precise and in many configurations a clear button press option is better..

02-03-2016, 06:35 AM	#738
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by ogl New Pentax has new upper wheel and no joysticks. Canon and Nikon are reportage cameras for quick access to AF selection and all settings. K-1 will be positioned in another way Obviously It will be positioned between the Nikon D750 and the D810 (pricewise) Maybe it will be as good as the D810 better in some ways, less in others? Who knows.

02-03-2016, 06:38 AM - 1 Like	#739
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Why arguing about stuff you dont know 100% yet?

02-03-2016, 06:44 AM	#740
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by kenspo Why arguing about stuff you dont know 100% yet? I've made that point many many times here.. but I think it is because people are bored.

02-03-2016, 06:45 AM - 1 Like	#741
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Originally posted by kenspo Why arguing about stuff you dont know 100% yet? We are not arguing, we are discussing what could be implemented in Pentax FF. You shouldn't be too hard on us Exciting to wait the leak info, but so far we haven't received any. Care to share ?

02-03-2016, 06:45 AM - 1 Like	#742
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	@mee I guess you're right Not long until people can love/hate the new monster anyway! ---------- Post added 02-03-16 at 02:47 PM ---------- Originally posted by afan137 We are not arguing, we are discussing what could be implemented in Pentax FF. You shouldn't be too hard on us Exciting to wait the leak info, but so far we haven't received any. Care to share ? Hehe, im not hard..i just struggle to see the point Nah, i dont take the risk at this time..but suddenly

02-03-2016, 08:40 AM	#743
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by beholder3 If you forget about the battery grip duplication of elements for a battery grip which you can not get rid off ever and which makes the camera a real PITA all by itself. I don't forget. I put this info just for information. Maybe K-1 has easy and quick methods to control settings. Better than Canon.

02-03-2016, 08:41 AM - 1 Like	#744
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by kenspo Nah, i dont take the risk at this time..but suddenly I won't share anything you PM me except on this forum

02-03-2016, 09:10 AM	#745
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by kenspo @mee I guess you're right Not long until people can love/hate the new monster anyway! All i can say is I very much like the appearance and compactness of K-1, whilst I hate those 1Dx or D5 ugly and exhibitionist's bricks. At some point, too much complexity and assistance hinders pleasure...

02-03-2016, 09:13 AM	#746
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Zygonyx All i can say is I very much like the appearance and compactness of K-1, whilst I hate those 1Dx or D5 ugly and exhibitionist's bricks. It's pure reportage cameras and it works cool. Animal or sport shots made by such cameras are outstanding... But it's rather expensive, very big and heavy. I don't like so big cameras too.

02-03-2016, 09:18 AM	#747
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	I can say i would much more use Fuji's ML for reportage. I only would try those monsters when shooting wildlife in long stands e.g. in a hide, but not even through nature walks or "billebaude"...

02-05-2016, 11:57 PM - 2 Likes	#748
Deimos Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kingdom of Wonder Posts: 1,777	A new photo was posted by a famous japanese landscape photographer T. Nakanishi, with the exif stating "PENTAX K-1 Ver. 0.99"! The photo was pulled after being mentioned on digicame, but my google-fu is strong See more here in another thread where it was first mentioned: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/169-pentax-full-frame/313154-speculation-...ml#post3518062

02-06-2016, 02:19 AM	#749
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Firmware 0.99 is a final jump.

K1 pics new update with da lenses this time

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