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12-24-2015, 09:34 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
I had no idea that Rupert is product testing for Ricoh. I wonder if Otis knows Rupert is cheating on him?
It's okay if it's with the full-frame. Otis understands.

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So, with this new crop mode in the k-1 FF, it will basically work as a k-3 II (crop) camera in the FF if one wants to do that (for example, in birding).
12-24-2015, 11:08 AM   #18
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QuoteOriginally posted by aleonx3 Quote
So, with this new crop mode in the k-1 FF, it will basically work as a k-3 II (crop) camera in the FF if one wants to do that (for example, in birding).
Maybe more like a K5ii - the Sensor area of a FF vs. an APSC is about 2.25x (H 1.5x times W 1.5x) - typically 36mp full frame cameras have a 16mp crop mode. To get K3 resolution when cropped you need a > 50mp sensor.
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I have been more or less indifferent about a Pentax FF. But I have to say that as the Pentax FF intro approaches, I find myself getting more enthusiastic and thinking this is a camera I would like. Now Pentax has always been the master of adapting their old equipment to function with new, advanced equipment and it seems once again they have done that. I do have a lot of ASP-C lenses such as my 21, 40, 70, 12-24, 10-17 fisheye, 18-135, 55-300 and few full framers such as my Sigma 150-500, Pentax Macro 50 F 2.8, 50 F 1.4 .

I see they have an ASP-C system for these lens and a FF for the others, incorporated into the FF. I'm assuming that the FF camera on it's ASP-C setting will produce ASP-C photographs every bit as sharp, etc., as my current K-5 now does.

Yeah...if all this is so and works as I think it may, I could well be a Pentax FF owner one of these days.

I haven't read all the specs, but I'm also assuming that the upcoming FF will have weather seals, magnesium alloy body, etc...as per the standards of the K-5, K-3, etc.

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Squirrels....the Ricoh folks are surely following this forum. In a week or two they will update their site with reptile immages.
And just what is wrong with that! 90% of my pics are squirrels and iguanas at my age I need to shoot something that will hold still for a while.
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at my age I need to shoot something that will hold still for a while
I can recommend superglue it works a treat for most things.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pathdoc Quote
This is an interesting statement:

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"The APS-C setting records only the image captured within the APS-C image circle where the resolution is higher than peripheral areas."
I feel something is being lost in translation here, but could it possibly mean that the pixel density is not uniform across the sensor???? OR are they referring to the fact that the best parts of an FA lens are in the centre? Time will tell.

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The AUTO setting automatically selects the appropriate image size for the lens mounted on the camera. It selects either a 35mm full-frame image size for D FA- and FA-series lenses, or an APS-C image size for DA- and DA L-series lenses.
This is very informative. Basically, it seems anything prior to an FA series lens will require you to set FF mode manually (important if you were in crop mode previously).

The best part of all, of course, is that they have confirmed the existence of full-time manual override, and the nature and number of crop modes (i.e. one). Now all that remains is to see how they have managed what we see in the viewfinder.
Maybe they've updated the page since, but it says there is a cropping frame in the viewfinder:
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The APS-C setting captures all images in an APS-C image size, regardless of the lens**, while displaying a cropping frame in the camera’s viewfinder.
Maybe the first statement quoted is about any FF lens -- if the crop mode were used with a FF lens, the highest resolution area of the lens would be captured. Anyway, it seems the text may be different now... or I'm looking at a different source?

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I am really pleased with what I see so far for the new FF. I was seriously thinking about a k3; but then I made a trip to Costco and looked through a Nikon 7200 with kit zoom. I regained my sanity and realized I want FF with the brighter viewfinder. Having spent my younger days with a 50mm 1.7 or 1.4 on a film camera, I yearn for a better view finder image. (I like my son's Nikon D700 viewfinder) I will be holding out for the Pentax FF but I will not be in the first wave of purchasers. With a crop size of around 16 mpx I wonder how good low light performance with be in APS-C mode. Any chance it will be better than the K3 ii for low light performance in crop mode?
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So this increases the range of our lenses.. in a way..

That is, as example. a 55-300 almost becomes a 55-450 if the lens supports the FF image circle?
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Are you serious?
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Are you serious?
Too much Christmas spirit, I reckon.

PS: I think he meant that, if the 55-300 covered the full 35mm frame at 300, then using the crop mode will give it the field of view that a 450 would give on a 35mm frame. It just didn't actually read that way.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
the crop mode will give it the field of view that a 450 would give on a 35mm frame
Just like on a K-3 or any other APSc camera (but the 55 is closer to an 85).
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QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
PS: I think he meant that, if the 55-300 covered the full 35mm frame at 300, then using the crop mode will give it the field of view that a 450 would give on a 35mm frame. It just didn't actually read that way.
I think it was more that if it covers the 35mm frame at 55, then you get 35mm-equivalent FoVs from 55 at the wide end (in FF mode) to 450 at the tight end (in crop mode).
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Until I saw it has APS capability, I wasn't too interested. Now I am!
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I can recommend superglue it works a treat for most things.
There are very few photo models that cannot be stabilized with the generous application of duct tape.

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