Originally posted by MRRiley First off.... 18MM isnt "super-wide angle" on an APS-C Digital SLR. heck its not even really "super-wide" on a 35mm camera...
Now I am not sure about that... 18mm is pretty darn wide on 35mm... the rough equivalent of 11-12mm on APS-C.
Sure it is not a 14mm, but I would call it ultra wide territory in 35mm terms.
Originally posted by gkopeliadis Prime lenses have a
maaaaaaaajor draw back for many of us shooting outdoors. Yes: dust while changing them all the time.
So a good
looooong zoom is always welcome for those circumstances.
Well I do a lot of work outdoors, primarily in the arctics, but also travelling a fair bit in a variety of major cities. Have not been to greece for some years, but I would not hesitate to bring primes there, as I did not when trekking dusty Lanzarote this winter.
Primes and zooms differs in how you work with them IMHO, to say that one or the other is not suited for outdoor photography is simply not true.
Originally posted by Gooshin my sigma is all metal and has a smooth manual focus, also works wonderfully on a film camera...
Yep but sigma does not make them like that anymore
Originally posted by Gooshin and like i said... many, many, many times in this thread, whether this reincarnation of CZ will be "ground breaking" is up in the air, let them make it, then we will see.
Well I have shot with pretty much the entire ZF range on my D3 and settled for the 28 and 85 as my favourites.
The 50/2 and 100/2 by all acounts are steller in performance too, so is the 35/2 btw. the 50/1.4 and 25/2.8 did not appeal to me, but are far from duds.
So if their reputation and linie up is any indication it will be a very nice lens.
While not useful for me in terms of focal length on neither my Nikon or Pentax gear (prefer the DA21 in terms of FOV on APS-C), then I see no reason for it not to sell.
Originally posted by Gooshin i am willing to bed that its not going to raise any eyebrows, it will be good image quality, nothing more, and people who buy into the CZ universe are going to buy them, and think they are kings, and i will smile at them as i snap away with my personal choice of gear.
I think you are right, Zeiss lenses rarely do that in general, but the people using them generally praise them highly.
It has nothing to do with Zeiss being king, but with performance delivered and Zeiss is definitely delivering, for landscape work the smooth precision manual focus and solid metal construction is a pleasure to work with and the renderings and resolution from them are definitely in the high end scale.
Originally posted by Gooshin Carl Zeiss is an outstanding chap, me and him had brunch the other day and he told me the most bizarre tale of one of his nieces and a 10 foot long alligator.
seriously though, my personal life experience (even though it is short lived compared to some of you) is that nothing ever stays the same, change is something we must adapt to, and to a certain degree, expect.
Heroes of the past become nothing more than conversational ice breakers and vague refrences of some sort of standard.
CZ (the person) may have been an innovator then, but CZ (the company) is most definitely far behind now.
for reasons already mentioned by other posters, for CZ to enter the market of electronized and auto focus lenses is... hard to say the least. They lean back and hold on for dear life on nothing more than their name and patented designs.
Just reading a few of the posters comments gives you this sense of this aristocratic perspective of CZ.
but in reality, someone like me has no reason to respect the current CZ image, because i can get the same if not better results, with more versatility, for less investment.
there are many people on this forum that swear by their Super Tac's, or other junk MF lenses, are they fools for having such a perspective?
i but i regress
a 18mm F3.5 lens with no electronic control is dull
other manufacturers have produced lenses in a similar focal length, with larger apertures, that have delivered much enjoyment to many of its users.
ergo, this CZ piece deserves little recognition.
if you (all) feel otherwise, that is your choice, but please do so for the right reasons.
**intermission**
Has it occured to you that they might just serve a different market than manufacturers producing AF lenses only?
A nieche for sure, but does that make it laid back and resting on a glorious past or far behind?