Originally posted by falconeye The discussion between Gooshin, wiyum, Cideway, and rparmar is priceless.
The performance has been awesome so far and I thank the actors for having provided so good entertainment while the summer lasts.
I need a role as well. Here is my text:
falconeye to Gooshin: "But you know that Carl Zeiss, the person whose name you treat with so little respect, was one of the very few people in the history of mankind who actually really shifted the barriers of the feasible? I am asking because you seem to forget that both, defending the limits of feasibility as well as demanding to go beyond is all the masses can do. Only very few very exceptional individuals actually ever do and if you ask them it was never obvious to do."
Carl Zeiss is an outstanding chap, me and him had brunch the other day and he told me the most bizarre tale of one of his nieces and a 10 foot long alligator.
seriously though, my personal life experience (even though it is short lived compared to some of you) is that nothing ever stays the same, change is something we must adapt to, and to a certain degree,
expect.
Heroes of the past become nothing more than conversational ice breakers and vague refrences of some sort of standard.
CZ (the person) may have been an innovator then, but CZ (the company) is most definitely far behind now.
for reasons already mentioned by other posters, for CZ to enter the market of electronized and auto focus lenses is... hard to say the least. They lean back and hold on for dear life on nothing more than their name and patented designs.
Just reading a few of the posters comments gives you this sense of this aristocratic perspective of CZ.
but in reality, someone like me has no reason to respect the current CZ image, because i can get the same if not better results, with more versatility, for less investment.
there are many people on this forum that swear by their Super Tac's, or other junk MF lenses, are they fools for having such a perspective?
i but i regress
a 18mm F3.5 lens with no electronic control is dull
other manufacturers have produced lenses in a similar focal length, with larger apertures, that have delivered much enjoyment to many of its users.
ergo, this CZ piece deserves little recognition.
if you (all) feel otherwise, that is your choice, but please do so for the right reasons.
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