CES Pentax K-1 Rumor or Fact?

rawr · 01-13-2016, 07:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

I'm still skeptical about Tamron.

In one of the 'Pentax Story' tablet presentations, the Pentax engineers behind the DFA 70-200 and DFA 150 - 450 were profiled, so we can be 100% certain they are Pentax lenses.

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As to other Pentax and/or Tamron lenses, one would have to query patent diagrams or something, I guess.

bobmaxja · 01-13-2016, 07:41 PM

I done a lot of trade show. Almost all companies have a suite somewhere in a hotel were they will prep customer(dealer) about non public stuff. That the way the business is done. The business in not done on the convention floor.
Anyway , if the lauch date is in february , dealers have already place their order and Ricoh is probing new dealers. If you are in the Camera business, you know that Pentax is coming with a FF. If you stop at their booth and a credible potential dealer, them they receive a special invitation to visit the suite and talk with the distribution manager. If you are just a nobody, at the booth you will get the standard phrase, it's coming.

thibs · 01-13-2016, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Yeah, yeah, OK. My bad. I'm still skeptical about Tamron.

Just the 24-70 and 15-30 IMO.

btnapa · 01-13-2016, 11:36 PM - **1 Like**

I am a nobody but I got to see the camera in the "secret dealer room." I guess it pays to be nice and ask nicely. When they found out I was a diehard Pentaxian and was not interested in the Theta show, some nice guy decided to let me take a peak at the camera. It was a working model, and it is a beast. Tons of nice features, talk about a beast of a camera. There was a tape on the name but I did not want to be disrespectful by pulling it off.

With all the hoopla around Nikon at the CES show, the real news was at the Ricoh booth. Too bad they kept it behind closed doors. With the FF, Pentax is going to be front page news again. Get ready.

Asahiflex · 01-14-2016, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by btnapa

With all the hoopla around Nikon at the CES show, the real news was at the Ricoh booth. Too bad they kept it behind closed doors. With the FF, Pentax is going to be front page news again. Get ready.

Interesting. Without telling us too much: would the K-1 just be a good alternative to the to the other FF brands (or a bit better), or would it blow all of them (including the new Nikon) out of the water???

I know you have seen it and that it must be difficult to be tightlipped. But please tell us the level of your enthusiasm on a scale of 1 to 10 please.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 01-14-2016, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by kooks

Also lets not forget that a 15-30mm (f2.8??) will be launch really soon so with that focal lenghts from 15 all the way to 200mm are covered by new f2.8 lenses.

I grant you that, but I would still like a smaller, lighter prime. Personally, I am covered already by zooms from 12 to 70 mm with Sigma EX lenses I bought back in the film days, though at f2.8 only from 20 mm onwards. I just prefer to use primes for wide-angles, and zooms for telephoto stuff when I can, but that's just my way. Anyway, I know that Pentax won't be able to please us all from the get-go, but we can dream, can't we?

**Hattifnatt** · 01-14-2016, 02:43 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Interesting. Without telling us too much: would the K-1 just be a good alternative to the to the other FF brands (or a bit better), or would it blow all of them (including the new Nikon) out of the water???

I think we should set reasonable expectations for the Pentax FF. Good alternative to the other FF models is enough for me. How exactly do you blow a D810 out of the water??

Last edited by Hattifnatt; 01-14-2016 at 03:51 AM.

jaad75 · 01-14-2016, 03:04 AM

I've read about some kind of closed room with a full current Pentax lineup here:
Pentax-D FA 24-70 mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR - pierwsze wra?enia i przyk?adowe zdj?cia z nowego obiektywu | Fotoblogia.pl (in Polish)
The guy states there was no info about the K-1 at all. Not to mention the camera itself.

Simen1 · 01-14-2016, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Vantage-Point

If people think that the new DFA 70-200 mm is heavy, wait till they get a load of the 400mm F2.8!

So weight is not absolute but relative? If so, you should have at least two feather weight Sigma 200-500/2,8 in your gear bag because of Hubble Space Telescope.

I'm sticking with absolute weight.

**ffking** · 01-14-2016, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by jaad75

The guy states there was no info about the K-1 at all. Not to mention the camera itself.

A bit like the latest teaser!

**gaweidert** · 01-14-2016, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by Simen1

So weight is not absolute but relative? If so, you should have at least two feather weight Sigma 200-500/2,8 in your gear bag because of Hubble Space Telescope.

I'm sticking with absolute weight.

Actually the Hubble main telescope has a focal length of 57,600mm and an f-number of 24.

DennisH · 01-14-2016, 04:35 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by gaweidert

Actually the Hubble main telescope has a focal length of 57,600mm and an f-number of 24.

How's the bokeh?

Cynog Ap Brychan · 01-14-2016, 04:37 AM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by Hattifnatt

How exactly do you blow a D810 out of the water??

Strap some dynamite around it and throw it in the bath?

**gaweidert** · 01-14-2016, 04:42 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by DennisH

How's the bokeh?

Before the corrective optics were installed, it had excellent bokeh. But bokeh was not in fashion then so some really smart people at Kodak devised a set of corrective lenses.

btnapa · 01-14-2016, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Hattifnatt

I think we should set reasonable expectations for the Pentax FF. Good alternative to the other FF models is enough for me. How exactly do you blow a D810 out of the water??

Throw a Pentax FF at it!!

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01-13-2016, 07:13 PM - 1 Like	#76
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by monochrome I'm still skeptical about Tamron. In one of the 'Pentax Story' tablet presentations, the Pentax engineers behind the DFA 70-200 and DFA 150 - 450 were profiled, so we can be 100% certain they are Pentax lenses. . As to other Pentax and/or Tamron lenses, one would have to query patent diagrams or something, I guess.

01-13-2016, 07:41 PM	#77
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	I done a lot of trade show. Almost all companies have a suite somewhere in a hotel were they will prep customer(dealer) about non public stuff. That the way the business is done. The business in not done on the convention floor. Anyway , if the lauch date is in february , dealers have already place their order and Ricoh is probing new dealers. If you are in the Camera business, you know that Pentax is coming with a FF. If you stop at their booth and a credible potential dealer, them they receive a special invitation to visit the suite and talk with the distribution manager. If you are just a nobody, at the booth you will get the standard phrase, it's coming.

01-13-2016, 11:15 PM	#78
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by monochrome Yeah, yeah, OK. My bad. I'm still skeptical about Tamron. Just the 24-70 and 15-30 IMO.

01-13-2016, 11:36 PM - 1 Like	#79
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,615	I am a nobody but I got to see the camera in the "secret dealer room." I guess it pays to be nice and ask nicely. When they found out I was a diehard Pentaxian and was not interested in the Theta show, some nice guy decided to let me take a peak at the camera. It was a working model, and it is a beast. Tons of nice features, talk about a beast of a camera. There was a tape on the name but I did not want to be disrespectful by pulling it off. With all the hoopla around Nikon at the CES show, the real news was at the Ricoh booth. Too bad they kept it behind closed doors. With the FF, Pentax is going to be front page news again. Get ready.

01-14-2016, 12:22 AM	#80
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by btnapa With all the hoopla around Nikon at the CES show, the real news was at the Ricoh booth. Too bad they kept it behind closed doors. With the FF, Pentax is going to be front page news again. Get ready. Interesting. Without telling us too much: would the K-1 just be a good alternative to the to the other FF brands (or a bit better), or would it blow all of them (including the new Nikon) out of the water??? I know you have seen it and that it must be difficult to be tightlipped. But please tell us the level of your enthusiasm on a scale of 1 to 10 please.

01-14-2016, 01:38 AM	#81
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by kooks Also lets not forget that a 15-30mm (f2.8??) will be launch really soon so with that focal lenghts from 15 all the way to 200mm are covered by new f2.8 lenses. I grant you that, but I would still like a smaller, lighter prime. Personally, I am covered already by zooms from 12 to 70 mm with Sigma EX lenses I bought back in the film days, though at f2.8 only from 20 mm onwards. I just prefer to use primes for wide-angles, and zooms for telephoto stuff when I can, but that's just my way. Anyway, I know that Pentax won't be able to please us all from the get-go, but we can dream, can't we?

01-14-2016, 02:43 AM - 2 Likes	#82
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625	Originally posted by Asahiflex Interesting. Without telling us too much: would the K-1 just be a good alternative to the to the other FF brands (or a bit better), or would it blow all of them (including the new Nikon) out of the water??? I think we should set reasonable expectations for the Pentax FF. Good alternative to the other FF models is enough for me. How exactly do you blow a D810 out of the water?? Last edited by Hattifnatt; 01-14-2016 at 03:51 AM.

01-14-2016, 03:04 AM	#83
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	I've read about some kind of closed room with a full current Pentax lineup here: Pentax-D FA 24-70 mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR - pierwsze wra?enia i przyk?adowe zdj?cia z nowego obiektywu \| Fotoblogia.pl (in Polish) The guy states there was no info about the K-1 at all. Not to mention the camera itself.

01-14-2016, 03:48 AM	#84
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by Vantage-Point If people think that the new DFA 70-200 mm is heavy, wait till they get a load of the 400mm F2.8! So weight is not absolute but relative? If so, you should have at least two feather weight Sigma 200-500/2,8 in your gear bag because of Hubble Space Telescope. I'm sticking with absolute weight.

01-14-2016, 03:51 AM	#85
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by jaad75 The guy states there was no info about the K-1 at all. Not to mention the camera itself. A bit like the latest teaser!

01-14-2016, 04:29 AM	#86
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	Originally posted by Simen1 So weight is not absolute but relative? If so, you should have at least two feather weight Sigma 200-500/2,8 in your gear bag because of Hubble Space Telescope. I'm sticking with absolute weight. Actually the Hubble main telescope has a focal length of 57,600mm and an f-number of 24.

01-14-2016, 04:35 AM - 4 Likes	#87
DennisH Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 730	Originally posted by gaweidert Actually the Hubble main telescope has a focal length of 57,600mm and an f-number of 24. How's the bokeh?

01-14-2016, 04:37 AM - 5 Likes	#88
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by Hattifnatt How exactly do you blow a D810 out of the water?? Strap some dynamite around it and throw it in the bath?

01-14-2016, 04:42 AM - 2 Likes	#89
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	Originally posted by DennisH How's the bokeh? Before the corrective optics were installed, it had excellent bokeh. But bokeh was not in fashion then so some really smart people at Kodak devised a set of corrective lenses.

01-14-2016, 05:54 AM	#90
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,615	Originally posted by Hattifnatt I think we should set reasonable expectations for the Pentax FF. Good alternative to the other FF models is enough for me. How exactly do you blow a D810 out of the water?? Throw a Pentax FF at it!!