CES Pentax K-1 Rumor or Fact?

rawr · 01-14-2016, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

But that would make the Pentax FF bigger, and I thought we wanted a compact-ish FF.

From all the images we've seen so far, it does seem smaller than the D810, perhaps in the same class as D750/K-3.

But if the handling is good, with a little bit of extra space around some of the controls and buttons, I won't complain if the body ends up a bit bigger than the K-3. Some of the K-3 button placements are not ideal.

D1N0 · 01-14-2016, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by normhead

But the K-3 may still be a league or two over the D750 in the areas that matter most to a given user. It's bells and whistles kind of camera. Lot's of capability, that many people will rarely use. About the same capability for most of what everyone does, at 3 times the price.

You can't touch this with a 400mm lens and 1.7 TC on a D750. Can't even get close. Actually, if will probably be the same even with the K-1. That extra 20% resolution over a crop K-1 is going to be visible.

for people chasing birdies

kenspo · 01-14-2016, 01:26 PM - **1 Like**

I have never questioned the picture quality, so no point in all those ********** bird pics...

Im talking about real pro use..with features like AF, ISO + +

But with the new FF, Pentax will for sure be up there with the big boys!

Zygonyx · 01-14-2016, 01:38 PM

Only a few weeks to wait for official announcement, isn't it Ken ?

kenspo · 01-14-2016, 01:42 PM

Im afraid to say too much..haha..Crazy japanese..haha! But its getting very close!

apete · 01-14-2016, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

I have never questioned the picture quality, so no point in all those ********** bird pics...

Im talking about real pro use..with features like AF, ISO + +

But with the new FF, Pentax will for sure be up there with the big boys!

Am I reading between the lines "improved AF"?

Yeah, I know, rhetorical question as of today... Let's wait and see then!

D1N0 · 01-14-2016, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by apete

Am I reading between the lines "improved AF"?

Yeah, I know, rhetorical question as of today... Let's wait and see then!

It will have improved AF. Question is, how much

btnapa · 01-14-2016, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Quite easily actually. Have you ever used one? I have for a short time and there is no way I would use that camera for work on a regular basis.

So, how to blow an 810 out of the water: Provide a camera with similar image quality, AF in the same ball park, and Pentax ergonomics. I can carry and use a k-3 with 60-250 all day and be fine. I used the D810 for less than an hour and was totally fed up with it. Of course if you have bigger hands than I do, maybe it is not a problem, but for me a camera that large is not usable for any length of time. YMMV of course and this is taking nothing away from the D810 as far as the images are concerned those are excellent.

Jatrax, the FF I tried at the show was noticeably taller than he K3. Grips came with both of my K3s when I bought them. I thought I would use them for better balance with say the 70-200 Tammy I have. But I never used them as they added quite bit of weight and heft to the camera. The new FF felt bigger in a nice way. The first thing came to my mind that heck I will not need a grip with this baby as it has more room for gripping.

**jatrax** · 01-14-2016, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by btnapa

the FF I tried at the show was noticeably taller than he K3.

A bit taller is perfect actually

Only one half of my pinky fits onto the k-3. So add 1/4" in height, keep the same grip distance front to back, don't make it much heavier and I'm golden

.

btnapa · 01-14-2016, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

A bit taller is perfect actually

Only one half of my pinky fits onto the k-3. So add 1/4" in height, keep the same grip distance front to back, don't make it much heavier and I'm golden

.

I think your wishes are answered. I felt the same way.

mee · 01-14-2016, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by btnapa

I think your wishes are answered. I felt the same way.

Me too.. my pinky floats on the K-5II unless I squish it into my other fingers. hehe

The FF body you handled, was it able to be powered on? Or was it off, no battery, and just to handle?

Shanti · 01-14-2016, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

I have never questioned the picture quality, so no point in all those ********** bird pics...

Im talking about real pro use..with features like AF, ISO + +

But with the new FF, Pentax will for sure be up there with the big boys!

that's true..I never use AF for birdies & what does ISO matter for our feathered friends

but then again'real pros' ain't doing birdy pics are they?

normhead · 01-14-2016, 08:35 PM

You don't like birdie pics? Them's fighter words...

Another one of those guys who would rather see squirrels the birds, I see how this works.

Shanti · 01-14-2016, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by normhead

You don't like birdie pics? Them's fighter words...

Another one of those guys who would rather see squirrels the birds, I see how this works.

All I do is birdie pics Norm ..tongue in cheek (squirrel talk) but someday I hope to do headbangers/death metal, as they are more 'real' & give so much more to mankind than fuzzy flying critters....

(ps am jazz musician so not biased

)

btnapa · 01-14-2016, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by mee

Me too.. my pinky floats on the K-5II unless I squish it into my other fingers. hehe

The FF body you handled, was it able to be powered on? Or was it off, no battery, and just to handle?

I was a fully functional unit. It powered on and I tried a few lenses on there.

01-14-2016, 06:19 PM	#129
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by btnapa the FF I tried at the show was noticeably taller than he K3. A bit taller is perfect actually Only one half of my pinky fits onto the k-3. So add 1/4" in height, keep the same grip distance front to back, don't make it much heavier and I'm golden.

01-14-2016, 06:55 PM	#130
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,616	Originally posted by jatrax A bit taller is perfect actually Only one half of my pinky fits onto the k-3. So add 1/4" in height, keep the same grip distance front to back, don't make it much heavier and I'm golden. I think your wishes are answered. I felt the same way.

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01-14-2016, 12:39 PM	#121
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by bertwert But that would make the Pentax FF bigger, and I thought we wanted a compact-ish FF. From all the images we've seen so far, it does seem smaller than the D810, perhaps in the same class as D750/K-3. But if the handling is good, with a little bit of extra space around some of the controls and buttons, I won't complain if the body ends up a bit bigger than the K-3. Some of the K-3 button placements are not ideal.

01-14-2016, 12:53 PM	#122
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by normhead But the K-3 may still be a league or two over the D750 in the areas that matter most to a given user. It's bells and whistles kind of camera. Lot's of capability, that many people will rarely use. About the same capability for most of what everyone does, at 3 times the price. You can't touch this with a 400mm lens and 1.7 TC on a D750. Can't even get close. Actually, if will probably be the same even with the K-1. That extra 20% resolution over a crop K-1 is going to be visible. for people chasing birdies

01-14-2016, 01:26 PM - 1 Like	#123
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	I have never questioned the picture quality, so no point in all those ********** bird pics... Im talking about real pro use..with features like AF, ISO + + But with the new FF, Pentax will for sure be up there with the big boys!

01-14-2016, 01:38 PM	#124
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Only a few weeks to wait for official announcement, isn't it Ken ?

01-14-2016, 01:42 PM	#125
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Im afraid to say too much..haha..Crazy japanese..haha! But its getting very close!

01-14-2016, 02:05 PM	#126
apete Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 249	Originally posted by kenspo I have never questioned the picture quality, so no point in all those ********** bird pics... Im talking about real pro use..with features like AF, ISO + + But with the new FF, Pentax will for sure be up there with the big boys! Am I reading between the lines "improved AF"? Yeah, I know, rhetorical question as of today... Let's wait and see then!

01-14-2016, 02:24 PM	#127
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by apete Am I reading between the lines "improved AF"? Yeah, I know, rhetorical question as of today... Let's wait and see then! It will have improved AF. Question is, how much

01-14-2016, 06:14 PM	#128
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,616	Originally posted by jatrax Quite easily actually. Have you ever used one? I have for a short time and there is no way I would use that camera for work on a regular basis. So, how to blow an 810 out of the water: Provide a camera with similar image quality, AF in the same ball park, and Pentax ergonomics. I can carry and use a k-3 with 60-250 all day and be fine. I used the D810 for less than an hour and was totally fed up with it. Of course if you have bigger hands than I do, maybe it is not a problem, but for me a camera that large is not usable for any length of time. YMMV of course and this is taking nothing away from the D810 as far as the images are concerned those are excellent. Jatrax, the FF I tried at the show was noticeably taller than he K3. Grips came with both of my K3s when I bought them. I thought I would use them for better balance with say the 70-200 Tammy I have. But I never used them as they added quite bit of weight and heft to the camera. The new FF felt bigger in a nice way. The first thing came to my mind that heck I will not need a grip with this baby as it has more room for gripping.

01-14-2016, 06:59 PM	#131
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by btnapa I think your wishes are answered. I felt the same way. Me too.. my pinky floats on the K-5II unless I squish it into my other fingers. hehe The FF body you handled, was it able to be powered on? Or was it off, no battery, and just to handle?

01-14-2016, 08:17 PM	#132
Shanti Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by kenspo I have never questioned the picture quality, so no point in all those ********** bird pics... Im talking about real pro use..with features like AF, ISO + + But with the new FF, Pentax will for sure be up there with the big boys! that's true..I never use AF for birdies & what does ISO matter for our feathered friends but then again'real pros' ain't doing birdy pics are they?

01-14-2016, 08:35 PM	#133
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	You don't like birdie pics? Them's fighter words... Another one of those guys who would rather see squirrels the birds, I see how this works.

01-14-2016, 08:53 PM	#134
Shanti Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by normhead You don't like birdie pics? Them's fighter words... Another one of those guys who would rather see squirrels the birds, I see how this works. All I do is birdie pics Norm ..tongue in cheek (squirrel talk) but someday I hope to do headbangers/death metal, as they are more 'real' & give so much more to mankind than fuzzy flying critters.... (ps am jazz musician so not biased )

01-14-2016, 09:44 PM	#135
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,616	Originally posted by mee Me too.. my pinky floats on the K-5II unless I squish it into my other fingers. hehe The FF body you handled, was it able to be powered on? Or was it off, no battery, and just to handle? I was a fully functional unit. It powered on and I tried a few lenses on there.