K1 pics new update with the 3 fa ltds

**TAP** · 01-14-2016, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by starbase218

The photos may not be the best around (the first one bores the hell out of me), but I'm curious: how you would show the potential of a fullframe camera when all you can do is post images on a website, especially taking into account how good APS-C is nowadays.

Full-res JPEGs would be a good start

infoomatic · 01-14-2016, 03:46 PM

... could also be K-5 pics, I wouldn't notice the difference at this size of the picture and you probably neither (no offence).

**Alex645** · 01-14-2016, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by infoomatic

... could also be K-5 pics, I wouldn't notice the difference at this size of the picture and you probably neither (no offence).

I assume you are joking when you say it could be a K-5 photo being misrepresented here as a K-1 photo. Yes, it's possible, but why in the world would they take that risk? It would be bad enough for a forum member to alter their EXIF file to pose as a Pentax, when they are really shooting Canon, so I can't imagine any reason why a corporation would do anything so deceptive. Do you drive a VW turbo diesel?

reh321 · 01-14-2016, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by starbase218

The photos may not be the best around (the first one bores the hell out of me), but I'm curious: how you would show the potential of a fullframe camera when all you can do is post images on a website, especially taking into account how good APS-C is nowadays.

I'm not convinced that any pictures from them are going to do any good. They need to stop fooling around with the marketing and just get some cameras in the hands of real life users!!

**clackers** · 01-14-2016, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I'm not convinced that any pictures from them are going to do any good. They need to stop fooling around with the marketing and just get some cameras in the hands of real life users!!

Get your Visa card out when it's released, Reh, and show 'em how it's done. ☺

normhead · 01-14-2016, 07:34 PM - **1 Like**

Why doesn't Pentax ask us who we want to see with a K-1. I'm going for MikeSF and LeRolls or maybe Rondec. There's shooters here that put whoever took those Pentax images to shame.

**Fontan** · 01-14-2016, 11:08 PM - **1 Like**

I think the pictures are just fine. They tell me enough Info and the feel of this FF sensor in relation to what the scenes would look like on APS-C with the same set of lenses. This is not a photo contest. They didn't post these pics to wow you. They are cleverly chosen scenes that are designed to make you imagine what you can do with this camera, how you can make it sing based on what you typically shoot.

Dipsoid · 01-14-2016, 11:24 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fontan

This is not a photo contest. They didn't post these pics to wow you. They are cleverly chosen scenes that are designed to make you imagine what you can do with this camera, how you can make it sing based on what you typically shoot.

If this is true, then Ricoh is doing "marketing" wrong. This is a photo contest, the K-1 may decide the future that Pentax heads in. Could you imagine a restaurant's food being shown advertised on paper plates? It's not supposed to "wow" you, just give you a feeling of the food.

rawr · 01-15-2016, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by Fontan

I think the pictures are just fine.

I agree. These images simply make the point that the camera will work with some of the legendary FA Ltd's that many Pentaxians hold so dear. They do that simple task well enough.

People should remember that everything on the site is a tease, not the full reveal.
Think of it as a strip tease, if that helps clear up the site concept.

You don't show everything all at once, otherwise you have no show. So 'full-frontal' and glamour images will come at the end of the show, at CP+. Then there will be gazillions of images to pixel peep, sub-sections of the web site that trumpet every feature of the camera, numerous images shot by select reviewers, and possibly also some fancy 'wow' images shot by Pentax Ambassadors too.

repaap · 01-15-2016, 12:56 AM

I agree on your agree.

Originally posted by rawr

I agree. These images simply make the point that the camera will work with some of the legendary FA Ltd's that many Pentaxians hold so dear. They do that simple task well enough.

People should remember that everything on the site is a tease, not the full reveal.
Think of it as a strip tease, if that helps clear up the site concept.

You don't show everything all at once, otherwise you have no show. So 'full-frontal' and glamour images will come at the end of the show, at CP+. Then there will be gazillions of images to pixel peep, sub-sections of the web site that trumpet every feature of the camera, numerous images shot by select reviewers, and possibly also some fancy 'wow' images shot by Pentax Ambassadors too.

And I'll ad at here that this has been the line of Pentax/ricoh, before too. Pretty much sleeves down calmly showing that here, FF camera for your lovely FA limiteds, all working as it should. Now, buy this and you know what you can do. As you said, there will be more flashy photos, form ambassadors al all that kind of stuff. No problem for me. And I kind a liked FA 31 and 43 shots...

**Alex645** · 01-15-2016, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Dipsoid

If this is true, then Ricoh is doing "marketing" wrong. This is a photo contest, the K-1 may decide the future that Pentax heads in. Could you imagine a restaurant's food being shown advertised on paper plates? It's not supposed to "wow" you, just give you a feeling of the food.

And I agree with Dipsoid's counterpoint. Anything less is just 'lowering the bar' or simply not taking advantage of the opportunity. Given all the amazing talent of photographers that shoot as amateurs or hobbyists, I'd expect a professional to have higher standards. I'm glad their engineers aren't as 'good enough' in their approach to features and quality.

rawr · 01-15-2016, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by repaap

FF camera for your lovely FA limiteds, all working as it should.

That's why, for instance, they showed this K-1 + FA 31 image at the first public 'debut' of the K-1 (at CP+ 2015), when the K-1 was still a mere plastic lump:

It's been a very consistent message from Ricoh - the camera will make Pentaxians with FA Ltd's happy.

Cameras are just accessories for lenses, after all.

repaap · 01-15-2016, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by rawr

That's why, for instance, they showed this K-1 + FA 31 image at the first public 'debut' of the K-1 (at CP+ 2015), when the K-1 was still a mere plastic lump:

It's been a very consistent message from Ricoh - the camera will make Pentaxians with FA Ltd's happy.

Cameras are just accessories for lenses, after all.

Could you also make so that it wil make new Happy FA-Limited owners?

**clackers** · 01-15-2016, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Alex645

And I agree with Dipsoid's counterpoint. Anything less is just 'lowering the bar' or simply not taking advantage of the opportunity.

Hmm, aren't you glad to be "let behind the red cutain" to see the engineers working on compatibility, Alex?

There are some in the forum who got distraught at the lack of release last year, vaporware, that sort of thing. ☺

noelpolar · 01-15-2016, 01:46 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

I agree. These images simply make the point that the camera will work with some of the legendary FA Ltd's that many Pentaxians hold so dear. They do that simple task well enough.

People should remember that everything on the site is a tease, not the full reveal.
Think of it as a strip tease, if that helps clear up the site concept.

You don't show everything all at once, otherwise you have no show. So 'full-frontal' and glamour images will come at the end of the show, at CP+. Then there will be gazillions of images to pixel peep, sub-sections of the web site that trumpet every feature of the camera, numerous images shot by select reviewers, and possibly also some fancy 'wow' images shot by Pentax Ambassadors too.

I tend to speed read these posts...... so ....do you really want to see shots of a strip tease so you can pixle peep the full frontals...... then blow a trumpet?

01-14-2016, 07:34 PM - 1 Like	#36
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,448	Why doesn't Pentax ask us who we want to see with a K-1. I'm going for MikeSF and LeRolls or maybe Rondec. There's shooters here that put whoever took those Pentax images to shame. Last edited by normhead; 01-15-2016 at 06:59 PM.

01-14-2016, 11:24 PM - 1 Like	#38
Dipsoid Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 241	Originally posted by Fontan This is not a photo contest. They didn't post these pics to wow you. They are cleverly chosen scenes that are designed to make you imagine what you can do with this camera, how you can make it sing based on what you typically shoot. If this is true, then Ricoh is doing "marketing" wrong. This is a photo contest, the K-1 may decide the future that Pentax heads in. Could you imagine a restaurant's food being shown advertised on paper plates? It's not supposed to "wow" you, just give you a feeling of the food. Last edited by Dipsoid; 01-14-2016 at 11:33 PM.

01-15-2016, 01:08 AM	#42
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by repaap FF camera for your lovely FA limiteds, all working as it should. That's why, for instance, they showed this K-1 + FA 31 image at the first public 'debut' of the K-1 (at CP+ 2015), when the K-1 was still a mere plastic lump: It's been a very consistent message from Ricoh - the camera will make Pentaxians with FA Ltd's happy. Cameras are just accessories for lenses, after all. Last edited by rawr; 01-15-2016 at 01:16 AM.

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01-14-2016, 03:42 PM	#31
TAP Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 121	Originally posted by starbase218 The photos may not be the best around (the first one bores the hell out of me), but I'm curious: how you would show the potential of a fullframe camera when all you can do is post images on a website, especially taking into account how good APS-C is nowadays. Full-res JPEGs would be a good start

01-14-2016, 03:46 PM	#32
infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	... could also be K-5 pics, I wouldn't notice the difference at this size of the picture and you probably neither (no offence).

01-14-2016, 04:55 PM	#33
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	Originally posted by infoomatic ... could also be K-5 pics, I wouldn't notice the difference at this size of the picture and you probably neither (no offence). I assume you are joking when you say it could be a K-5 photo being misrepresented here as a K-1 photo. Yes, it's possible, but why in the world would they take that risk? It would be bad enough for a forum member to alter their EXIF file to pose as a Pentax, when they are really shooting Canon, so I can't imagine any reason why a corporation would do anything so deceptive. Do you drive a VW turbo diesel?

01-14-2016, 05:55 PM	#34
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by starbase218 The photos may not be the best around (the first one bores the hell out of me), but I'm curious: how you would show the potential of a fullframe camera when all you can do is post images on a website, especially taking into account how good APS-C is nowadays. I'm not convinced that any pictures from them are going to do any good. They need to stop fooling around with the marketing and just get some cameras in the hands of real life users!!

01-14-2016, 07:18 PM	#35
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by reh321 I'm not convinced that any pictures from them are going to do any good. They need to stop fooling around with the marketing and just get some cameras in the hands of real life users!! Get your Visa card out when it's released, Reh, and show 'em how it's done. ☺

01-14-2016, 11:08 PM - 1 Like	#37
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	I think the pictures are just fine. They tell me enough Info and the feel of this FF sensor in relation to what the scenes would look like on APS-C with the same set of lenses. This is not a photo contest. They didn't post these pics to wow you. They are cleverly chosen scenes that are designed to make you imagine what you can do with this camera, how you can make it sing based on what you typically shoot.

01-15-2016, 12:39 AM	#39
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Fontan I think the pictures are just fine. I agree. These images simply make the point that the camera will work with some of the legendary FA Ltd's that many Pentaxians hold so dear. They do that simple task well enough. People should remember that everything on the site is a tease, not the full reveal. Think of it as a strip tease, if that helps clear up the site concept. You don't show everything all at once, otherwise you have no show. So 'full-frontal' and glamour images will come at the end of the show, at CP+. Then there will be gazillions of images to pixel peep, sub-sections of the web site that trumpet every feature of the camera, numerous images shot by select reviewers, and possibly also some fancy 'wow' images shot by Pentax Ambassadors too.

01-15-2016, 12:56 AM	#40
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	I agree on your agree. Originally posted by rawr I agree. These images simply make the point that the camera will work with some of the legendary FA Ltd's that many Pentaxians hold so dear. They do that simple task well enough. People should remember that everything on the site is a tease, not the full reveal. Think of it as a strip tease, if that helps clear up the site concept. You don't show everything all at once, otherwise you have no show. So 'full-frontal' and glamour images will come at the end of the show, at CP+. Then there will be gazillions of images to pixel peep, sub-sections of the web site that trumpet every feature of the camera, numerous images shot by select reviewers, and possibly also some fancy 'wow' images shot by Pentax Ambassadors too. And I'll ad at here that this has been the line of Pentax/ricoh, before too. Pretty much sleeves down calmly showing that here, FF camera for your lovely FA limiteds, all working as it should. Now, buy this and you know what you can do. As you said, there will be more flashy photos, form ambassadors al all that kind of stuff. No problem for me. And I kind a liked FA 31 and 43 shots...

01-15-2016, 01:06 AM	#41
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	Originally posted by Dipsoid If this is true, then Ricoh is doing "marketing" wrong. This is a photo contest, the K-1 may decide the future that Pentax heads in. Could you imagine a restaurant's food being shown advertised on paper plates? It's not supposed to "wow" you, just give you a feeling of the food. And I agree with Dipsoid's counterpoint. Anything less is just 'lowering the bar' or simply not taking advantage of the opportunity. Given all the amazing talent of photographers that shoot as amateurs or hobbyists, I'd expect a professional to have higher standards. I'm glad their engineers aren't as 'good enough' in their approach to features and quality.

01-15-2016, 01:31 AM	#43
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by rawr That's why, for instance, they showed this K-1 + FA 31 image at the first public 'debut' of the K-1 (at CP+ 2015), when the K-1 was still a mere plastic lump: It's been a very consistent message from Ricoh - the camera will make Pentaxians with FA Ltd's happy. Cameras are just accessories for lenses, after all. Could you also make so that it wil make new Happy FA-Limited owners?

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01-15-2016, 01:36 AM	#44
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Alex645 And I agree with Dipsoid's counterpoint. Anything less is just 'lowering the bar' or simply not taking advantage of the opportunity. Hmm, aren't you glad to be "let behind the red cutain" to see the engineers working on compatibility, Alex? There are some in the forum who got distraught at the lack of release last year, vaporware, that sort of thing. ☺

01-15-2016, 01:46 AM - 1 Like	#45
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by rawr I agree. These images simply make the point that the camera will work with some of the legendary FA Ltd's that many Pentaxians hold so dear. They do that simple task well enough. People should remember that everything on the site is a tease, not the full reveal. Think of it as a strip tease, if that helps clear up the site concept. You don't show everything all at once, otherwise you have no show. So 'full-frontal' and glamour images will come at the end of the show, at CP+. Then there will be gazillions of images to pixel peep, sub-sections of the web site that trumpet every feature of the camera, numerous images shot by select reviewers, and possibly also some fancy 'wow' images shot by Pentax Ambassadors too. I tend to speed read these posts...... so ....do you really want to see shots of a strip tease so you can pixle peep the full frontals...... then blow a trumpet?