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02-12-2016, 08:32 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Belnan Quote
I wonder what is meant by "it is where the AF-related specifications, such as the number and arrangement of the distance measuring point is a concern."

I wouldnt be surprised if the AF points are the same as the K-3, with the main addition of contrast detect AF from the RGB sensor to help out a bit. Doesnt it mean it cant be a good system just might not be up to everyones expectations.
For comparison look at the AF points in the 645Z. It's the same module as in the K-3 and similar DSLRs. Because of the larger sensor, these AF points are more densely packed, but cover a smaller area.
If Pentax didn't develop a new module for the 645Z, why would they for the K-1? Personally I would prefer to see a redesigned AF-module however, esp since I would prefer the AF points to be distributed as in the APS-C viewfinder and not densely packed in the center.

QuoteOriginally posted by Belnan Quote
Wont be long before we find out.
Indeed

02-12-2016, 08:33 AM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
Here you are!

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??????K-1??????????? - ????info

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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.co...ml&prev=search

36.4 mp
6.5 fps
ISO100-204,800

Note that these sensor specs don't match the D810 sensor, so it reasonable to believe this is a newly developed sensor that happens to have the same pixel count.
These specs make sense. It probably is an improved sensor over the D810. I read somewhere the DR would be better than D810. I cannot imagine that as the D810 has almost a 15 stop dynamic range already.
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
This is the point,there is no camera with real 50 iso and the sensorquality is at the highest point at 100 iso.
Best regards
There are such cameras.
D810's ISO100 is real ISO75
ISO64 is real ISO47

K-5IIs has ISO80 = real ISO70

Phase One P40 Plus
ISO100 = real ISO46

Phase One IQ180 Digital Back
ISO200 = real ISO60
ISO100 = real ISO29


Phase One P65Plus
ISO100 = real ISO44

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QuoteOriginally posted by vcollerp Quote
Sensor
That is probably the frame rate for apc crop.
No be optimistic

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Nikon D810
146 x 123 x 81.5mm
Canon 6D
145 x 111 x 71 mm

Pentax K-1
136.5 x 110 x 85.5mm

Small, but fat
It looked and felt taller than a K3. It fit so good I felt it may not need a grip for longer lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ishpuini Quote
For comparison look at the AF points in the 645Z. It's the same module as in the K-3 and similar DSLRs. Because of the larger sensor, these AF points are more densely packed, but cover a smaller area.
If Pentax didn't develop a new module for the 645Z, why would they for the K-1?
Because the very same AF module is the most advanced if put in a 645z, or the most basic if put in a K-3. The expectations for the two different markets differs quite a bit.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
There are such cameras.
D810's ISO100 is real ISO75
ISO64 is real ISO47
Not in fullframe and we are talking about correct iso numbers,not what the camera is using against the exifs.
The lower iso than official is only forgood results again the competitors.
Canon is the master of this in high iso ranges.
Cause Canon is to low quality at high iso.
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QuoteOriginally posted by btnapa Quote
It looked and felt taller than a K3. It fit so good I felt it may not need a grip for longer lenses.
Did it felt thicker?
I hope not. The K-3 body is thick enough for me (but I might appreciate the slightly taller K-1 body).

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Did it felt thicker?
I hope not. The K-3 body is thick enough for me (but I might appreciate the slightly taller K-1 body).
I did not pay attention to the thickness. The first thing that hit me was the height. With K3 my pinky is always off the camera, almost needing the grip for a full 3 finger grip. I did not feel the same with the FF. Reminded me of my Canon bodies that had better grip due to a larger bodies. The FF did not look bulkier it just had a better and more comfortable grip.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Belnan Quote
I wonder what is meant by "it is where the AF-related specifications, such as the number and arrangement of the distance measuring point is a concern."

I wouldnt be surprised if the AF points are the same as the K-3, with the main addition of contrast detect AF from the RGB sensor to help out a bit. Doesnt it mean it cant be a good system just might not be up to everyones expectations.

Wont be long before we find out.
Looking at the Japanese phrase (Ki ni narimasu), I the writer is saying something like "What I really want to know is the AF-related specifications, such as the number and arrangement of the distance measuring point". I don't think it is that he has any serious concern about it.

I'd just point out that this website leaks just about every camera's specs a few days before the release, almost like clockwork. We're likely to see more detailed specs, product photos, and the Japanese price. A word of warning about that, the Japanese price always looks high, so don't freak out about that, because it won't sell at that price even in Japan and the conversion to other currencies necessarily reflect what i will cost overseas, and in fact it won't be the real street price in Japan either.
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
Not in fullframe and we are talking about correct iso numbers,not what the camera is using against the exifs.
The lower iso than official is only forgood results again the competitors.
We talk about real ISO and marked ISO -

Nikon D810 has marked ISO100 and ISO64. And even ISO32. But ISO32 is already not real - "software ISO".
ISO64 is "hardware ISO".

D810 with ISO64 allow to make photo with exposure as real ISO47. DR is 14.76EV.

Don't forget that cameras have the highest DR at real low ISO. My K-5IIs at ISO80 is 1 STOP better than at ISO200.

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Will it still be using the D-li90? Or is there a new battery with a higher capacity?
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Will it still be using the D-li90? Or is there a new battery with a higher capacity?
We will know soon
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Will it still be using the D-li90? Or is there a new battery with a higher capacity?

Short answer Yes.
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Short answer Yes.
new battery with the same or lower capacity is also an option
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